mo/e uw solo, will drive SS/SV out of business

TeeJay

TeeJay

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Netherlands

OBE

R/

I just can't get this down right. awesome build that's true but I'm dieing everytime. could someone show me? I'm getting really frustated here because I know the build works but I just suck.

greetz TeeJay

moko

moko

??uo??o??

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by jake jacobs
okey dokey just so you all know, blessed sig DOESNT get interupted by the the bull guys (sorry i cant spell their name) and the squids will interupt it but they die so fast that it really dont matter

just giving you guys a heads up oh god, please get your facts correct before you post. yes, the aatxes CAN interrupt your blessed signet! read up Savage Slash here. >_> anyways, i doubt theres a need for boon, and surviving surely isnt that much of a problem if you are a bit experienced with this build, however, life attunement if your new would do it, or if your more experienced, a damage skill.

gonna try it soon ^^

AscalonWarrior

AscalonWarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Kokkola, Finland

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mokone
oh god, please get your facts correct before you post. yes, the aatxes CAN interrupt your blessed signet! read up Savage Slash here. >_> anyways, i doubt theres a need for boon, and surviving surely isnt that much of a problem if you are a bit experienced with this build, however, life attunement if your new would do it, or if your more experienced, a damage skill.

gonna try it soon ^^ Yeah, but they don't interupt it.. No idea why.

chessyang

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

W/

^^ your right. i rememeber running another 600hp build and i would never get interrupet but once i cast any Spell (not signet) i would get interrupted in a heart beat.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TeeJay
I just can't get this down right. have you practiced this? i mean at Elona Reach or the trolls at Droknar's Forge?


anyways to the OP NICE build.... very easy if your use to the 600hp build. thanks for shareing =)

TeeJay

TeeJay

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Netherlands

OBE

R/

I have practiced in Elona and it worked fine, I guess I just have bad luck with the nightmares. I'll keep trying but I get frustrated too quickly (it's a bad habbit of mine).

Charqus

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/

Sorry for being dim you say your health is around 380? how do ya get SB to trigger?

TeeJay

TeeJay

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Netherlands

OBE

R/

SB goes in action before Prot, it's very weird but it does, so you get alot of damage and trigger SB but actually you don't because the damage is reduced by prot.

Charqus

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/

oooooh ty vm

Mazrim_Walker

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

We High Online Always

R/

its a nice build gratz on that
just 1 question when doin FoW how do u kill the warriors there healing sig pretty much outheals the damage done by burning speed and scrourge healing

EinherjarMx

EinherjarMx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Mexico

La Legion del Dragon [LD]

E/

it also works with E/Mo using obsidian flesh instead of spellbreaker =D great build though ill give it a try as soon as my monk reachs level 20 XD

Charqus

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/

I just cant seem to get them damaging me enough?
I have never played 600 hp monk only ever 55 any tips?

R. Mindwalker

R. Mindwalker

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by AscalonWarrior
Yeah, but they don't interupt it.. No idea why. They dont class it as a spell. The slash gives extra damage on a spell not a signet. Most things in the UW dont interupt the signet only the Darkness with distracting blow, but they just randomly spam that.

The build works nicely. Easy and fast farming UW GG. Next FoW here i come

Dark Tykane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Cult Unseen

N/Me

I don't get it can you tell me how this works?
I've been off the game so long i haven't bothered with this monk stuff.
I thought the spirit bond stuff only works when you have 605 hp so the Aatxes will hit you for 60 with ps on and you heal 80 for every 60 damage
how can you do this with 300 hp?
I'm sure im just missing something here please tell me what

Xian

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/Me

Read the other posts in this thread, or the 9000 other threads about the spirit bond farming build in general. SB is triggered -before- PS, so as long as the damage would've been >60 (from starter/15al armor) it still triggers the heal, then gets reduced to less than the heal amount hence giving you a net health gain.

Dark Tykane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Cult Unseen

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xian
Read the other posts in this thread, or the 9000 other threads about the spirit bond farming build in general. SB is triggered -before- PS, so as long as the damage would've been >60 (from starter/15al armor) it still triggers the heal, then gets reduced to less than the heal amount hence giving you a net health gain. Thanks I appreciate it

What Now Homie

What Now Homie

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

I'm currently looking for a PvP guild

W/

Hmm, I can clear Aatxes very easily, but the graspings give me a problem. I tryed taking the graspings and the aatxes at once, but they seem to interrupt everything. Any ideas?

sage tank

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/Mo

for everyone who has problem with grasping, please, read my advices in front pages, that is a collective experiences from many people and I'm sure you will find it help fun. BTW i revised this build a little into mo/w with 12 swords man with galarth and silverwin slash, I totally farmed the hell out of grenth's foot .

Holz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Charqus
I just cant seem to get them damaging me enough?
I have never played 600 hp monk only ever 55 any tips? You have to use the lowest armor you can get (15) so it will trigger spirit bond.

Respect to the finder of this build, but killing the Aatxes takes very long (imo) and I get interrupted too many times ~__~. I think I'm gonna stick with Rt/Me Smite farmer for uw

Dark Tykane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Cult Unseen

N/Me

I dont like the divine boon thats the only thing for me other than that i love it

instead i just put in inferno i guess thats why its an aopen slot

muddog

muddog

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Ontario, Canada

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Tykane
instead i just put in inferno i guess thats why its an aopen slot i would say flame burst is better - it has same casting time, and deals more damage when you consider recharging times (20 for inferno vs 5 for flame burst). sure, it costs 5 more energy, but you can do more damage faster. i tried it on the minos in elona and it took them down REALLY fast. i still have yet to verify if constant flame burst spamming triggers aoe panic though. with a casting time of 3/4 of a second, it has a higher chance of being interrupted, so be careful when you cast it.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by What Now Homie
Hmm, I can clear Aatxes very easily, but the graspings give me a problem. I tryed taking the graspings and the aatxes at once, but they seem to interrupt everything. Any ideas? Elemental Res.

nghwee

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Surely Jinkas and I are not the only ones to encounter endless mend condition from the smites? Occasionally one dies, usually in a large grp, but once down to 4, its a stalemate........ -.-

krypt1200

krypt1200

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2006

Atomik Fear [aF]

W/E

Is it possible to clear the aataxes, take the quest, and run away from the graspings with burning speed possibly?

jinkas

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

Scars Meadows [SMS]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by nghwee
Surely Jinkas and I are not the only ones to encounter endless mend condition from the smites? Occasionally one dies, usually in a large grp, but once down to 4, its a stalemate........ -.- I'm guessing the addition of Flame Burst will help since then you should be able to do more damage than the smites can heal. Frankly, though, I have not and probably will not try it since I got sick of being dazed so often by the Graspings. I enjoy the Rit VwK build much more, so I'll probably stick with that one.

narud

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/

could try guardian in that last slot. Would decrease how many times youre interupted by like 50% and since everyones complainin bout it i think it should help, havent tried this build yet so its just an idea.

mrcake

mrcake

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by krypt1200
Is it possible to clear the aataxes, take the quest, and run away from the graspings with burning speed possibly? you need to kill the graspings to open the doors

daraaksii

daraaksii

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

thats very nice. but i cant understand it. what armor i need? what runes? i need to be a 605 monk??!'"+?%/"+!?/"?!/?"+!/? somebody write down everything pls.

nghwee

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Lowest AL armor possible, without chest armor. Typically AL15 armor from Shing Jea monastary, unless u kept ur starter armor. Event headdress is useful, eg dragon mask, they have AL 0.

Definitely Sup Prot rune, and maybe Sup Divine or Smite.

Higher HP means retribution does more damage, but hp in the region of 300 helps u to survive groups of grasping darknesses that do not always trigger SB.

Personally, I made it to the smites, but had problem finishing them off due to the non-stop spamming of mend condition by the smites. Jinkas suggested adding flame burst, perhaps replacing retribution, which doesnt seem to add a lot of damage output with 300+ hp anyway.

moko

moko

??uo??o??

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
Elemental Res. Mo/E/Me anyone?

Tainek

Tainek

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

[Rage]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Effigy
How long would it take to kill Ataaxes without any Smiting? Seems safer to go with 55/Healing than 605/Smiting, as long as it will kill them. 55HP Setting himself on fire, this ive Got To see

baynewoods

baynewoods

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Bayne The Mercenary A/x, Bayne The White Mo/W, Bayne The Phenom M/x, Bayne The Vicious N/Mo

This is crazy...last night i finaly got SoJ for my monk and tried to Solo the UW obviously i didnt work so i took Spell Breaker instead and some more smiting spells but then i could tank all night and i wasnt doing enough dmg and it was getting late so i layed in bed and started reading skills in the strat guides and i saw aftershock and went hmmmm I'll try that tomorrow after work. I am now here at work and out of curiousity checked out the forums and bam there is this. Flame burst looks like it would work better along with burning speed.

I use the following for my 600;
Protective spirit
Spirit bond
balt spirit
blessed aura
retribution(which doesnt seem to do much i think ill trade for
burning speed)
Spell Breaker
Bonettis defense(which i never needed so ill trade for flame burst)
symbol of wrath(might trade this for essence bond)

BTW i can do either 55 or 600hp(I prefer the 600hp simply because to me its easier to mantain enchants and the more that attack me the merrier!) so if any has questions about either i am online almost everyday just PM me and i can show you.

<-----In game names!

uzumaki

uzumaki

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

GW

Me/

=/ im confused, you said you should keep your hp at ~300 because of the low damage of the grasping but you also said you should have as much hp as possible if you have the starter armor :S ????

So what armor do u use? which peices do u have equipped and whats the al level of each peice?

muddog

muddog

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Ontario, Canada

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by uzumaki
=/ im confused, you said you should keep your hp at ~300 because of the low damage of the grasping but you also said you should have as much hp as possible if you have the starter armor :S ????

So what armor do u use? which peices do u have equipped and whats the al level of each peice? my own setup is as follows:



with this setup i killed 2 groups of graspings/aatxes, but the 3rd group of graspings managed to interrupt my prot spirit and i died

if anyone has the same/similar setup, can they tell me if this works with smites?

XvArchonvX

XvArchonvX

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

I played around with this build a bit yesterday and it can indeed clear the Aatxes and Graspings (although not near as reliably as a monk that has a teammate cast Visage on them), but you really have to understand enemy A.I. to know when to cast, where/when to move, etc. I was called off by a guildie before I got to the smites, but I did do a duo run later on that day and brought a similar build to make things go by faster. I brought Burning Speed, but no retribution as my modification. My guildmate died at one point when helping me pull some extra smites and I solo tanked a big group and was actually able to kill off a few smites without my guildie using only Burning Speed as my damage ability,but it was very slow and I eventually got to a standoff when the number of smites I was tanking got small. From this experience, I have a feeling that even with Retribution, killing the smites is quite a slow process. I'll have to see how quickly it can go when I get to try the solo build again at a later time.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by muddog
my own setup is as follows:



with this setup i killed 2 groups of graspings/aatxes, but the 3rd group of graspings managed to interrupt my prot spirit and i died

if anyone has the same/similar setup, can they tell me if this works with smites? It definitely works with smites - tried and tested here. Just don't use burning speed as they use mend condition and heal eachother too much. Spam flame burst and let Retribution do its job. As mentioned before, grapsings are the hardest with their interrupts and dazing.

Edit: Drop boon for retribution. The dmg really adds up.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mokone
Mo/E/Me anyone? I gotta stop mixing up ele skills with mesmer skills

sage tank

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/Mo

BTW guys, I'm gonna be off GW for a few day, tests and school stuff (you got know when to stop) I give permission for anyone to make a more comprehensive guide for this build with pic etc etc

Dark Tykane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Cult Unseen

N/Me

I like this build better for FoW i feel like I have less risk when i go there because there is not as much daze and interupts...
but i need help the warriors have healing sig which makes it all take soo long.
any ideas beyond flame burst?

XvArchonvX

XvArchonvX

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

the more I use this build the more I realize that it is simply too unreliable to be worth using. Even when spacing out spell casting, Skull Crack will still catch you from time to time. I'm stickin with Monk/SS duo runs. I've spent too much money trying this build as it is.

*edit* flame burst may help against smites, but it makes you much more prone to interupts against graspings since it's one more spell you have to cast

sage tank

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/Mo

WDF, what kind of idiot uses flame burst on a 1/2 interrupt that may cause daze