Tiger's Fury nerf... Thoughts?

Has it actually changed? It was a 50% increase in damage output... now it's a 33% increase in damage. That's a difference of 17%. Which is essentially, like running a weapon without a damage modifier for 3 seconds of additional duration (compared to frenzy... assuming you have it at a 10 second duration which most people don't) at the cost of five more energy (than frenzy for example). That's enough of a difference for me.

It was a 50% increase in damage output... now it's a 33% increase in damage. That's a difference of 17%. Which is essentially, like running a weapon without a damage modifier for 3 seconds of additional duration (compared to frenzy... assuming you have it at a 10 second duration which most people don't) at the cost of five more energy (than frenzy for example). That's enough of a difference for me. I didn't do the math exactly, and didn't know that +33% attack speed meant +50% damage output. I didnt use it much because of the non-attack skill disabling, but I would still use it.

Goodbye bunny thumper... Since when? Or do you also assume that Boon Prots can no longer exist now too?

Goodbye bunny thumper... The build is still very viable... Just not as insane as it was before. Now you have to be somewhat skilled and understand your limitations before you roll a thumper. You'll still see them used, much like booners, it's just not going to be a requirement anymore to compete... and bad teams won't be able to use them to make up for lack of skill.


It was a decent balance (for thumpers), I just think it sucks that it effects everything else. I almost have to run a /W if I want an IAS now, and that's regretable.

Since when? Or do you also assume that Boon Prots can no longer exist now too? every little nurf freaks the clueless players first...... i was just reading a thread "the end of Boon" in monk forum.

C'mon people, the change is not that dramatic to put a cross on a whole build, just now you will have to learn how to REALLY play it, and not just spam skills

Actually going down from 150 to 133 is a 1/9th decrease (11.1%). By that thinking the difference between a customized weapon and a non-customized weapon is only 17%.
(1.00/1.20-1=.166666)

17% less damage increase, not total damage. Regardless, your looking at a more expensive skill that deals less damage.

Since when did a ranger spike need IAS? were talking about thumpers here......

You must compare the difference, not how far they are off of the baseline. I think it's perfectly fair to compare them for what they are. The reasoning behind using an IAS is to increase your damage output, whether we're talking about Rangers or Warriors now. If we're talking about Rangers, then we have one skill that costs the expertise reduced equivalent of 10 energy which will increase our damage by 33%, and one skill that costs the expertise reduced equivalent of 5 energy that increases our damage output by 50%. That's an easy and fair comparison. If we wanted to compare overall damage, then we might as well start throwing in things like skill usage and the effects of a vampiric/sundering mod, actual duration, energy requirements... etc. For simplicity's sake, a comparison of the effect of the IAS rather than overall damage is sufficient to make the point.

If we're talking about warriors, than there are even more things to consider, as adding Adrenaline into the mix will only complicate matters further.