A story of trust....

A guild in my alliance were fighting with each other(mostly officers and the guild leader) about something, I have no clue what about. The next day the guild leader log's on, presses G and see's he has no members. Checks the loggs and see's that one of his officers kicked all 75 of his members and then left the guild. Now what was once a 85+ guild is nothing more than a few officers and one pissed off leader.

What I learned about this: Always make sure you don't got a 5-12 old officer and people get vengeful very easy.

This story is for all the guild leaders who want to make someone an officer, there's a big trust issue involve in it.

Ouch! that must've really sucked.

Well, if the guild had any kind of community (rather than being a giant zerg of random invites where nobody knows each other) I'm sure most of those people will contact each other and figure out how to get together again.

I guess it's the leader's fault...

He/She didn't choose his/her officiers wisely. Officiers are suppose to be loyal followers of the leader and they shouldn't even be fighting.

ae u from TLS alliance ryan? cuz a guild in there had same story...

Our guild leader gets together with the full council and we sit and discuss who would make officer material and then we watch and wait or if we've already done the watching and waiting we simply call them in and offer the position to them.

Believe it or not we had one guy who didn't think he would make a very good officer but all of our officers thus far have been fully agreed upon by our 8member council.
It sucks when things like that happen - Even when an officer should follow his leader without question he is free to leave no one is holding him there.... No reason to split the guild unless he's just a royal "blank". =/ If the guild has any backbone for its leader it will merge back to what it was (forums are great for things like this btw) and without the idiot officer.

This is a problem we are trying to convince our leader of. Right now we have it where he officers almost anyone that is active or GvGs regularly with us (not only a core 8-10)

One day its going to bite us.

Heh, I had a similiar experience, except my guild is small and we only had one member. The rest were officers. The one member was my second account. One of the officers abruptly left for no particular reason and kicked my second account out of the guild.

again the trust issues between guildies ..........

Had that happen once. I promoted the guy cause he said he'd go recruit. Instead he kept spamming "Everyone to GH for gvg" I kept saying no, we don't even have 6 people on. So after it got unusually quite I hit "g" and saw I was memberless :S. Luckily I only had about 15 members when he kicked them so I just reinvited them back (after booting him). But I learned a lesson there.

Ugh, I know. Everytime I promote someone to officer, I get a little nervous. I usually don't let people be officers until they've been in the guild a minimum of a month and I don't let my other officers promote officers. Sorry that happened to you.

I was wandering if that had happened to anyone else. I had a similar experience before. I was the leader of my own guild with around 30 members. I logged off and the next day, i pressed G and saw my guild members were all gone, and only 4 officers were left on the roster. One of the officers kicked everyone. So then i decided to disband my guild and join another after another after another. I joined a total of 5 other guilds before deciding to start again with my best mate as an officer. I also get nervous when promoting people in the new guild i am in now. I am not sure if the officer will kick people out like the other person, so then i will depromote that officer when im offline. Then I will promote when i get back online.

This all changed when that officer did not kick any people when he was an officer and i was online. I could trust that person not to do such a thing. Lesson here is to only promote people who you can really really trust to be an officer.

I started my new guild about 3 weeks ago, and we have a total of 31 members (6 officers) who i can trust!

there are a few things that non-officers/new members dont know/understand about a guild, especially if it is a one where seniority matters (look @ your highschool and college frats/soros). try to look at different angles. maybe one of its officers recruit too much and another officer felt it was a mistake or something. try get into the inner circle and maybe youll understand it.

oh wait, the one who kicked the members also left the guild. lesson: let time go by before you trust someone.

This is a problem spanning across all games, I play BF2 online and we always have one person who earns trust, becomes a co-leader and loses 10 matches or so to eff up our record...its just one of those things...

make them all officers! works better for smaller guilds, but eliminates that issue completely

If you are an officer, and notice one of the other officeres going crazy kicking everyone then promote all members. The officer wont be able to kick them anymore. Of course you would need a Guild Leader to demote them after, but it's better than having him kick them all. (Happened to one of my guilds)

i had the exact opposite heppen to my guild, one of my officers got pissed then promoted everyone then left. but instead of getting mad we made it a competition, who ever reqruited the most people got a prize (like 5k) and stayed an officer