"Can't Touch This!"

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Zinger314
Zinger314
Debbie Downer
#1
ArenaNet slipped this little Gem in the announcement:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Website


Without a solid counter to touch-type skills, we decided to add a new Paragon shout called "Can't Touch This," which causes touch skills used on friends within earshot to completely fail. This will allow players to counter skills like Blackout, Shock, or Vampiric Touch more effectively.
Not only does it have the best name/picture for a skill in GW history, it'll completely shut up Touch Rangers. (Yes, I know they'll be posts saying "You don't need this skill to kill Touch Rangers, just kite them, n00b," but it's principle)

This skill also entices the use of Paragons in PvP, where Shock is rampant. (while the other two skills introduced are...crap.)
lightblade
lightblade
Forge Runner
#2
http://www.guildwars.com/support/gam...llspreview.php

From the official site!

"Can't Touch This!"
Either they didn't explain it clearly..or this skill is way too powerful. It's a shout that causes all touch skills to fail...or is it the "next" touch skill to fail?

Signet of Illusion
Here's the official word on this awesome signet: "...which will make the next spell you cast use your Illusion attribute instead of its normal attribute."

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perfect
Frost Gate Guardian
#3
Now warriors need a new elite called "Hammer Time!"
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Guild Terror
Frost Gate Guardian
#4
which causes touch SKILLS used on friends

so more than one touch skill
lightblade
lightblade
Forge Runner
#5
Too powerful...way too powerful...it should only work on the "next" touch skill.
Mordakai
Mordakai
Grotto Attendant
#6
Without knowing the cost, casting time, or recharge, it's hard to comment if it's "too powerful" or not.
Zexion
Zexion
Wilds Pathfinder
#7
You know nothing about cost, recharge or duration, so stop saying it's overpowered! Could have a 5 sec duration, 15 energy cost and 60 sec recharge. Would that be overpowered?

_Zexion
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supaet
Lion's Arch Merchant
#8
since touch has a counter, shout needs a counter too, can be a another shout call "shut the xx up" all the enemies within earshout cannot perform shouts.

or a touch skill "zip your mouth" target touched enemy cannot perform shouts/shouts disabled for xx second
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Former Ruling
Grotto Attendant
#9
Probably like 10 sec(1...10) on a 45 recharge or something balanced (IE. Lame) like that.

The illusion thing is funny. Nothing right now would warrent needing it though, unless the recharge is low enough, which it isnt because its a Signet and the better signets are good about having huge recharges.
Tainek
Tainek
Wilds Pathfinder
#10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zexion
You know nothing about cost, recharge or duration, so stop saying it's overpowered! Could have a 5 sec duration, 15 energy cost and 60 sec recharge. Would that be overpowered?

_Zexion
In HA, Yes, 5 Seconds is long enough for Ghostly to cap with no fear of Knockdown or Inturuption

( Mo/P With SB+Cant Touch This+ Song of Concentration= No Way to Stop Him Cappig)
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perfect
Frost Gate Guardian
#11
Quote:
Originally Posted by lightblade
Too powerful...way too powerful...it should only work on the "next" touch skill.
A touch ranger uses a touch skill every 1-2 seconds, if it only worked on the 'next' touch skill then it would be useless. You know nothing about the skill other than its description so it is rediculous to call it overpowered. Perhaps you dont want your precious touch ranger to have a direct counter.
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Former Ruling
Grotto Attendant
#12
Just from outright guessing I bet it'll be:
1...10 duration
45 recharge


Or a 60 recharge, then changed to 45 in the first skill rebalancing

That gives you Alittle window of protection from Shock and Blackout in PvP.

DOnt even mention Touch Rangers...

EDIT: Tainek - That isnt a problem with This skill so much as it is with Song of COncentration.
muddog
muddog
Ascalonian Squire
#13
Quote:
Originally Posted by supaet
since touch has a counter, shout needs a counter too, can be a another shout call "shut the xx up" all the enemies within earshout cannot perform shouts.

or a touch skill "zip your mouth" target touched enemy cannot perform shouts/shouts disabled for xx second
thats bloody hilarious
i wish i could set it as my signature
Tainek
Tainek
Wilds Pathfinder
#14
Quote:
Originally Posted by Former Ruling
EDIT: Tainek - That isnt a problem with This skill so much as it is with Song of COncentration.

And If That Was Nerfed to Oblivion, then Add Guardian+ Ward Vs Melee, and you Still Making it uncappleble (What are the chances of that Dis Blow gettin in?) , Uncappable with 2 Characters, One Who is a standard in any Balanced (Warder), and one who isjust a slight modification of a standard Build (SB/Ih)
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dreamhunk
Banned
#15
first thing that comes to mind mc hammer it is hammer time! LOL
Zinger314
Zinger314
Debbie Downer
#16
I'm nearly 100% certain that duration will be greater or equal to recharge. Otherwise, it would be useless, since Touch spells are such a niche anyways.
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Phoenix Ex
Lion's Arch Merchant
#17
I think something like 5 energy, 5 sec duration, and 20 sec recharge is fine, perfect to use when your monk is about to be shock/adrenal spiked and watch the warriors go wtf?! A monk can also use it to protect against a mesmer suddenly running up to you

Considering its AoE effect and cannot be removed any longer and it gets a lil too powerful.
fRag_Doll
fRag_Doll
Lion's Arch Merchant
#18
Heh, with a skill called "Can't Touch This" I would have expected the male Paragons to do an MC Hammer dance.

I kind of wish I'd gotten to name the skill though.
I would have named it after this page of my favorite web-comic, Goblins:Life Through Their Eyes.
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Ryo Azuro
Ascalonian Squire
#19
I personally user a Toucher and I rather like the new skill. It may make my diversify my toucher to switch to a bow (No way!) depending on the group I'm facing. . Also...I also thought about MC Hammer when I read it. XD

- Ryo
Clord
Clord
Wilds Pathfinder
#20
Quote:
Originally Posted by perfect
Now warriors need a new elite called "Hammer Time!"

"It is Hammer Time!" (Hammers only)
Adrenaline: 7

Elite Hammer Attack. If Hammer hits, target foe is throwed back and then knocked down 1...5 second(s).