Battle Rage

Algeron Zolo

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Heroes Z

W/Mo

20 Sep 2006 at 03:02 - 1

Okay, I was wondering. From what I can see, the most popular warrior elites are suped up weapon attacks. But what about a skill that actually BOOSTS your ability to use other uber death skills?!

Battle Rage (look it up on Guildwiki.org if u dont know what it does), when combined with a passive heal, (Watchful Spirit, MENDING!!!, etc.) is a great skill. The main reason its more effective than "For Great Justice" is it has no recharge time AND gives DOUBLE the adrenaline boost!

(i guess thats why its an elite...

).

So I want to know, why would I want to use Eviscerate/Cleave etc. over Battle Rage? Also, please dont say its b/c you lose all your adrenaline when it ends, b/c it only costs 4 strikes to activate, which doesnt take very long to obtain. (if you use the skill properly, it shouldn't end at all.)

Vermilion Okeanos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

20 Sep 2006 at 03:50 - 2

Because you lose all andrenline when battlerage end, and if I remember right, it deplete all your andrenline from re-activating it as well.

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

20 Sep 2006 at 08:11 - 3

Yep, reactivating counts as ending the stance and entering it again. Therefore you lose all your adrenaline. The only other thing about this skill is that you must take it when capping Dragon Slash. If you have 16 swordsmanship, Dragon Slash gives 5 adrenaline. That means Battle Rage will completely recharge Dragon Slash. If you take 3 other high adrenaline sword skills (such as Sun and Moon Slash, Standing Slash, Galrath Slash, and Silverwing Slash), they can all be spammed

v, without having any 'normal' attacks inbetween. Just until Battle Rage ends/reapplied that is

Dinkytowner

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/

20 Sep 2006 at 16:47 - 4

W/Mo with Succor, Battle Rage and a pile of adren attacks works nicely. Put succor on your monks and go make a mess. Extra energy regen = happy monks.

Wretchman Drake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Charr Carvings and [BeeR]

22 Sep 2006 at 14:49 - 5

not many people like this skill but I use it with my warrior in TA and RA. I don't use any enchantments I'm all about Pure Strike/the factions copy of it, and Bulls Strike. For adrenaline I only use Sever, Gash, and Final Thrust, but with Battle Rage I see it more as a spammable sprint to use Bulls Strike on foes easier, runners are never an issue with it. Plus i can get Sever off quick on a runner just in case. i dont care what other people say about it, people focus too much on the possiblity to spam attack skills, but I mainly use it as a quick sever artery and sprint. hope that helps

p.s. if somsone on ur team says it sux, dont listen. use it correctly, its ok to let a skill be underestimated...

sage tank

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/Mo

26 Sep 2006 at 16:59 - 6

The power of battle rage don't 100% lie within the fast adr recharge rate, don't people notice the 25% speed boast?? being able to keep battle rage up all the time(even if you lose all adr when reativate) mean that you can whack the bijesus out of strifer and runner. IT IS THE ONLY STANCE THAT HAS BOTH SPEED BOAST AND FASTER ADRENALINE RECHARGE.....

whobitz

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/

29 Sep 2006 at 03:17 - 7

In PvP...meh I'd rather go with good ol' Evis./Exec. combo. In PvE it's not too bad. Speed boost is always fun (though if you're just looking for the speed boost there's this thing called Rush...) and double adrenaline is shiny too. For Great Justice followed by Battle Rage = 300% adrenaline gain. Not too shabby...

@Marty:
With Dragon Slash, Standing Slash, Galrath/Silverwing Slash, and For Great Justice you can have a full chain of +40 damage skills (assuming a speed boost/some kind of stance for Standing) for 20 seconds (this assumes minimum 14 Swordmanship for Dragon Slash to work properly). It would work with skills other than Standing and Galrath, but I liked seeing constant ~70s come up every second over whatever I was hitting.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

29 Sep 2006 at 04:53 - 8

Quote:

For Great Justice followed by Battle Rage = 300% adrenaline gain. Not too shabby... When nightfall comes out, Adrenaline gain is capped at 100% (double).

whobitz

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/

03 Oct 2006 at 02:28 - 9

Damn ranger spirit...

And just to clarify, by 300% I meant 3x the normal gain.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

03 Oct 2006 at 03:04 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by whobitz

Damn ranger spirit...

And just to clarify, by 300% I meant 3x the normal gain.

I was just correcting you, RIGHT NOW "For Great Justice!" stacks with Battle Rage, but the official site notes that on release of Nightfall (and during the event that passed) that it will change

Quote:

After the conclusion of the weekend event, they will be removed from the game again until the release of Guild Wars Nightfall.
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* Capped adrenaline gain so that no player ever receives more than double adrenaline from adrenaline-boosting skills. This is probably because of the Adrenaline boosters from Paragons, and The Sweltering Heat ranger elite. Think about if this wasn't changed:
Doubled from Sweltering Heat/Battle Rage/etc
+50% on top fo that from "For Great Justice!"
+up to 96% on top of that from Focused Anger

You could charge the big beefy attacks in 1-2 hits >_> So they are capping it at 100%

Phoenix Arrows

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

With many other ugly people

We Are All Pretty [ugly]

03 Oct 2006 at 03:51 - 11

I tried it a bit a while ago, dropped it for other elites. If I could choose another elite stance, I would rather pick Bull's Charge. Speed boost and knockdown if they are moving. Doesn't erase all Adrenaline, although it ends when you use a skill.

The Silver Star

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

UK, Scotland

Il Guild Name Il

03 Oct 2006 at 15:02 - 12

When Factions didnt exist it was ok to take on a sword warrior as.. hundred blades is really bad for an elite, however with new sword elites its just as good as the new ones (i know Battle Rage is not a sword attribute elite)

EPO Bot

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/N

03 Oct 2006 at 15:53 - 13

The key to effective raging is refreshing it when all other adrenaline skills (one of them probably dismember),are empty and BR is lit. Sounds simple enough huh? It completely makes you a energy free hard hitter who also moves fast most of the time. Elite enough for me.

Haggard

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Urmston, Manchester, UK

Greener Pastures [DVDF]

W/Rt

04 Oct 2006 at 07:12 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

v, without having any 'normal' attacks inbetween. Just until Battle Rage ends/reapplied that is You get the same effect from the mesmer elite Echo and Dragon Slash. Using the echo recharges the normal, and vice versa. +40 damage every hit is fun!

huntingtonm

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

UK - SURREY

Mo/Me

04 Oct 2006 at 09:12 - 15

Completely in favor of battle rage, yes as everyone comments it wipes you out when u refresh it, but being able to put out twice as many disrupting chops and chasing anyone down makes for an elite too good to be true, i remember someone doing the figures and it works out BR gives more dmg over time but less spike-ability damage.

I feel if ur chasin down a kiting monk and disrupting him more often the kill usually comes cause the pressure just gets too much. Saying that Mo/A can be tricky little blighters

Hollerith

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

04 Oct 2006 at 14:42 - 16

I had a lot of fun with Rage, "For Great Justice!", Standing Slash, & Sun/Moon Slash.

"To The Limit!" helps with the loss of adrenaline.

CrispyCritter

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Save The Dolyaks

04 Oct 2006 at 15:25 - 17

The real joy of Battle Rage is putting it on a hammer warrior with Counter Blow.

EPO Bot

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/N

05 Oct 2006 at 10:51 - 18

Every time i put BR in my skillbar, i somehow have to think of Odo from Star trek: Deep space nine...wielding a lightsabre.

Thomas.knbk

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

05 Oct 2006 at 11:12 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by EPO Bot

Every time i put BR in my skillbar, i somehow have to think of Odo from Star trek: Deep space nine...wielding a lightsabre.

Every time I put it in I can't help thinking I should've taken eviscerate

Flopjack

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

N/E

05 Oct 2006 at 14:14 - 20

I have always thought Battle Rage was a really good skill, but mre often then not I find people bashing it. It seems to be an exellent pressure skill. I don't play PvE Warrior, however I unlocked all the Warrior stuff with Faction. Using sword, and 5 sword attacks, I can get myself to the point where any time I swing it is an attack skill with BR. I just hit 1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5 and move on down the line with my attacks.

zling

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

07 Oct 2006 at 10:05 - 21

pvp wise battle rage is a good elite for a pressure warrior, which will most likely use a sword. battle rage gives you more adrenaline return than dragon slash and you have enough +40 damage skills even without dragon slash, add a constant speed boost and you got yourself a pretty good elite. the draw back is that you wont have any IAS, at least until the paragorn comes into play...
if you are using an axe than you'd be better of with the good old eviscerate, reason being that if you use an axe you're most likely spiking and thus there is no replacement for eviscerate...
if you are using a hammer than you pretty much must have either devastating hammer of backbreaker or to some extent forceful blow. as you're most likely in the kd business or hammer spike+kd either require different elites other than battle rage...

pve wise battle rage is a nice skill and again fits best on sword warriors... same reasoning as pvp but not restricted to swords as you dont need the deep wound as much in pve and you're not as limited as pvp...