How will the change in the inherent mods effect Guild Wars?

I haven't seen a thread on this yet so I will start one...

I have read that inherent mods on weapons will be interchangeable after the Nightfall release. Now I am assuming this means the 15^50, +5 Energy, 15 -5/-10 mods. I am excited about this change, but won't this wreck the economy on rare items? I mean hell I have a Gold Req 8 14% stance Crystalline and a Req 8 19%<50 Dwarven that I would love to switch to 15^50. The only thing I see changing here are the enormous amounts of gold people spend on perfect inherent mods on rare skins. Now I believe that people will just spend lots of gold on the skin and the req and no longer worry about the dmg mod.

I am sure everyone welcomes being able to salvage the specific mod they want from a weapon so that should not be an issue.

I would like to discuss what this would mean for the game and what you guys all think about such a profound change. I'd like to hear from everyone about how this effects the community as a whole.

There was another thread already; not sure where it is now. I think the general concensus was that gold farming wouldn't be as fruitfull and prices will go down.

ok i found it

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10044754

Well this will affect Ebay gold farmers more then people. Skins will be what is important and what should be important. I am curious, however, if you can take the inherent mod from a weapon from a weapon smith. If so then you can lock most inscription costs to be under 5k each.

I say way to go ANET

Only skin and requirement will matter. And I doubt any skin will be rare enough to command huge 100K+ectos kinds of prices. It will generally make people happier to be able to have the exact skin and mods they want. I'm looking forward to it, especially for caster weapons, where it was nigh impossible to have a unique skin and good stats at the same time.

On the other hand it will destroy the value of some very valuable weapons that some people have put a lot of effort into obtaining, which seems awfully unfair.

they will make a ton of farmer bots instantly less rich at the same time giving the casual little guy player a realistic chance of having something nice that they can get rather than just window shop.

it will also hurt the ebay/gold seller market

this is good for the game

I only see good things coming from this... unless you enjoy ripping people off, then you might feel stabbed at here.

Be sure the 15^50 inscription price for swords/axes in particular will still be costly... but this is good news as Ive been one to keep a few rare items that arent quite perfect yet...

staff mods will be hot.

I wonder if shield mods can be transfered?

It is bad for the game because it destroys the point of causal farming, not just ebay/gold sellers.
Who in their right mind will be spending money on keys now?
I assume and hope PC gamer got it wrong and that these "inscriptions" are actually the name of inherient mods that can now be salavaged off of offhands/wands (sort of like a staff head type upgrade on wands etc). This would actually be sort of nice as long as you can't salvage crafter or collector stuff for it. Finding a 20/20 air gold focus item is impossible. Being able to salvage that and attach it to a rarer skin would be pretty cool and still keep the economy balanced.

If it really does mean INHERIENT weapon mods, well then say goodbye to the majority of the hardcore PvE players.

I fully disagree I casual farm because I would like to have a few different sets of armor for my characters.

No it specificly says weapons.

Actually the opposite will be true. You will see more people going into areas they would not normally go because they can get a nice skin and salvage some nice items now. People will not feel left behind or staggeringly poor. They only need to find the skin they want and the inherent mod they might be looking for. Casual players will have more variety of weapons and they can spend money on skills now instead of that perfect sword. I am sorry you can't see the benifits of this new aspect to GW.

I can't say it any better.

Will not affect me at all with the way I play except give me easier access to better weapons.
I'm looking forward to being able to do this.

I seriously doubt you'll be able to salvage inscriptions from crafted items, or collectors gear...



Once somebody customizes a weapon it's got no value to anyone else except as salvage. Crystalline max swords, and Dwarven axes, will still be quite rare. However, I can see someone holding off a few months to buy their perfect items, and a frenzy of people selling perfect items below their usual price before Nightfall is released.

I totally agree with you Gloryfox, everyone who thinks it's a bad idea is someone who trades high end gear for lots of gold and now there going to see this go down the drain they feel cheated, but to the rest of us (The oh so vast majority) we now have a chance of actually getting some good weapons/mods, etc.

I think I know why there doing this. There's no need for a auction house now, if everyone can afford (even after a little farming) what they want.

Anet, I solute your craftiness lol

substitute HARDCORE FARMER and you are right.

the most people who will/are screaming are hardcore farmers who see a big drop in prices they can charge.

so a big increase in nice items the casual player can afford is bad for the game?

giving all those people who havent farmed 100k plus ectos just to get something they really want but cant afford is bad?

join the other hardcores who have left as this will shake out a few more hardcore and open the door for a ton of casual players

i read a thread these days with lots of price check guru staff who were almost in tears for this, state was it was goin to ruin the economy, but i think this is the best anet ever though to get the prices to go down, they were anger becouse of theyr brute swords with 7req and perfect mods, they bought for 700k, in deep this will get the non farmer to have what he payed for on the game, as a regular non farmer player i never got my gold further than 100k witch in most cases go to my 15k armors. so its impossible for me to buy something as a perfect storm bow, now im sure ill have one.
as anet made me question my faith on factions it was restored now, and my preorder is on the way.

i love you anet, you get my money anytime

This will kill the high-end economy completely. The increase in rare drops around the time when factions came out already significantly nerfed it, leaving only very few items as "high-end". Now there won't be any.

I don't see that as a good thing. Casual players had their greens for 10k apiece. Hardcore players had perfect golds for 100k+, in some cases for 1mil+. What was wrong with that?

Now you'll be able to buy a gold max crystalline (100-200k?), but a 15^50 mod for it, whatever that may be worth... somewhere from 10 to 25k I guess and have your "ultra-rare" weapon. Of course, now I'll be able to make myself a +5 energy eternal bow (I don't think these can drop naturally) but so will thousands of other people. Part of me doesn't like this change, because it kills the game for some harcore PvE people...


And no, i'm not one of the uber-rich people whining. I'd call myself upper-middle class in terms of GW. The most expensive weapon I have is a 10/10 ghostly staff, so I don't have much to lose with the update. I still don't like it much.

I think it will be good for the game.
It will balance the economy (no more 100K+ ecto stormbows) and help put everyone on equal footing, as casual players can afford perfect weapons.

IMO the biggest complaints will come, not from hardcore farmers (more than anything, they farm for gold), but the elitists. The ones who like to spam what weapons they have constantly and brag how they are rich and have this and that on their other toons. They will have to find another way display their "stature."

Kudos Anet for killing 2 birds with one stone.

what was wrong with that is only a few ultra hardcore farmer/traders OR the ones that hit the reset jackpot could afford the really nice things.

now the VAST MAJORITY of the peasents can have a piece of the cake and not just green crumbs.

the vast majority of the screamers are rich farmer/traders who forsee their future profits way down

Okay. The "casual" player can use PERFECT collectors items and greens!

The casual player already has access to perfect stats items.

Also, believe it or not, the 14^50 axe/sword is not a piece of crap. It is like, .7 damage different per swing (which is so small, it is often rounded down by the guild wars damage system).

People who compain about not being able to afford the uber items don't deserve them because they don't "need" them to be competitive. You paid for this game. You should play it and work for it if you want that 15^50 gothic axe. Everything shouldn't just be handed to them.

People who are supporting this by saying the current system is unfair to casual players have apparently never bothered with collectors/crafter items cause "they aren't gold so they are crap."

People like me who have spent over 1000 hours playing this game and NOT as a hardcore farmer (but by simply playing missions, opening chests, FF, HA, Tombs, UW, FoW, etc), have acquired some nice stuff over time.

"Green" crumbs"? Are you kidding me? You complain that items with perfect stats (granted many combinations don't exist, but as more and more expansions come out, there will be a lot more variety with greens), aren't good enough for you?


You don't need perfect brute swords/fellblades/etc. You have access to katanas, dadoa swords, cleavers, and more.

What are the people who do have money and all the skills and armor they want going to do now? This will ruin the economy because all the upper level people will just start putting money into materials like ectos and shards. It will cause armor materials and dye to sky rocket cause their is nothing left to invest in.

i see quite a few people don't like this idea. i somewhat agree. people like the prestige of having that hard to get weapon/mod combo.

if this is to happen, i would like to see another color added for items (perhaps red) to show that the inherent mod has been changed.

this would mean if u have a gold crystalline sword and put a 15^50 on it, it will then be a red crystalline sword.

this would be good because people would still pay more (maybe not as much as now) for high end gold items.

[QUOTE]no they are not and i also have more than 1000 hours from the early betas on.

i was at riverside when you could get all those runes a run at before they nerfed it

this will hurt the elitest high roller ive got mine give the peasants the green crumbs (regardless of stats)


and you also have access to those if you think they are so good

have a royal hissie fit comes to mind *snicker*

in case you havent guessed it i will love the screams of the elitest moaning

*OMG how can i prove how superior i am if they have just as good a weapon to flash as i do?*

and there goes the neighborhood ..........sorry upper crust

wrong again as Anet will just increase the drop rate on whatever is being seriously reduced that the casual player wants/needs

example is that little gem the 100k superior absorb rune that seems to have lost some value