Changed Dmg(while enchanted) text?

Indian

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when did they changed this?

its long-as helllllll

Savio

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http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...0048336&page=3

They did it on shields too... I dread to look at my monk's equipment.

Ulivious The Reaper

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yeh they made my fellblade really ugly

Zinger314

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I have news from an insider source! The 4th expansion will be called Guild Wars: Idiotproof!

HawkofStorms

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It happened in todays update.

I agree, it does seem a little TOO long winded. They are doing it to "noob proof" the game. I'm all for a.net changing the wording around of stuff to make it clearer to understand (ie, clearly stating how much damage superior absorption absorbed compared to minor runes), but really, come on.

MORE words does not make something easier to understand!

What's next? "Requires 9 Hammer Master to do the 19-35 damage but does not require it for equiping the weapon or having any of the other mods" on every weapon.

Also, while on the subject of unnecessary word changes to item descriptions, why in the world must weapon mods say "attachs to axe/sword/etc." Can somebody who buys a weapon mod not figure out that a bow string attaches to a bow or a sword hilt attaches to a sword without that sentence in there?

TheMadKingGeorge

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Oh 1 Thing... Does Elemental Tempest Armor +10 Armor Enchanted Mean + 10 Armor On Any Enchantment Or +10 Armor On Maintaining Enchants

Tookis Elite

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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMadKingGeorge
Oh 1 Thing... Does Elemental Tempest Armor +10 Armor Enchanted Mean + 10 Armor On Any Enchantment Or +10 Armor On Maintaining Enchants

srry to use ya as a subject bud

but this is why they changed that. maybe a few people were confused as to which enchants affected the "damage mod" and whatnot.

-it works on any enchants to answer your question

Truong

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I agree, it is too long. ;l

Nivryx

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noticed it too, makes my perfect mursaat hornbow look butt ugly, takes two lines - wtheck? i think 'while enchanted' was perfectly idiot proof, change it back =/

bam23

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"Under Enchantment" sounds good enough.

That's overdoing it IMO.

Mercury Angel

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The weird thing is, they left 'while Hexed' alone, which is just as 'incorrect' as that. (which is to say, it was fine.)

BoredJoe

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Unless A.Net introduce a hex that negates the effect of any enchantment on a character. So the character will be enchanted but not under the effect of any enchantment. o.O

fenix

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Obviously Anet think the population of Guild Wars players are stupid. You would have to be stupid if you didn't understand "while enchanted", but I suppose it's just them making it easier for kids to play the game...

ubermancer

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Quote:
Originally Posted by BoredJoe
Unless A.Net introduce a hex that negates the effect of any enchantment on a character. So the character will be enchanted but not under the effect of any enchantment. o.O
Ohh... cool concept.

fatmouse

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If I were to guess I would say the dervish enchantments that 'do nothing for x seconds' will no longer count towards the enchanted modifier.

Nathan the Skank

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Quote:
Originally Posted by talon
Obviously Anet think the population of Guild Wars players are stupid. You would have to be stupid if you didn't understand "while enchanted", but I suppose it's just them making it easier for kids to play the game...
....I still don't get it, do i like, NEED, to be enchanted or is it optional.....


/endsarcasm

gene terrodon

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Quote:
Originally Posted by fatmouse
If I were to guess I would say the dervish enchantments that 'do nothing for x seconds' will no longer count towards the enchanted modifier.
One of the few intelligent posts here.

It's obviously because of a change to how some enchantments work.

To have an enchantment on you is different than being under the effects of an enchantment.

Think...then post.

Edit: Hawk, this is a prime example

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guildwiki
Aura of Thorns - Enchantment Spell. All nearby foes are crippled for 4...9 seconds. For 30 seconds, this Enchantment does nothing. When this Enchantment ends, all nearby foes begin Bleeding for 5...13 seconds.
Link here

As you can see, enchanted but not under the effects of an enchantment.
There is a difference.
Not only does this enchantment do nothing for 30 seconds, when it does do something, it doesn't affect the enchanted person, but the enchanted person’s foes. At no point is the caster under the effects of this enchantment, hence the change in the wording for the enchanted mod.

For enchantments that have an effect on your character, there would be no change.

HawkofStorms

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Umm... no it isn't.
Not all dervish enchantments are like that (god forms for instance diffenantly have an affect). Dervish enchantments can be shattered etc. They are enchantments. If they wanted to introduce a new type of skill called "derish enchantments" that dont' effect the "while enchanted" weapons, they would have just called the derivish enchantments something else (like weapon spells are currently).

frojack

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Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Umm... no it isn't.
Not all dervish enchantments are like that (god forms for instance diffenantly have an affect). Dervish enchantments can be shattered etc. They are enchantments. If they wanted to introduce a new type of skill called "derish enchantments" that dont' effect the "while enchanted" weapons, they would have just called the derivish enchantments something else (like weapon spells are currently).
What he said. The fact that they can be shattered and removed assumes that they would also count as 'under the effect'. Even the preorder Dervish weapon has the enchantment condition on it's +15% damage mod. It would be of little use if a large portion of the spammable enchantments don't count.

Also, using terms that question other peoples intelligence is generally a bad idea when all you have to work with is theory. Unless of course arrogance became cool overnight.

Savio

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Quote:
As you can see, enchanted but not under the effects of an enchantment.
There is a difference.
Wrong. There isn't a difference ingame. Test, check yourself, then post.

HawkofStorms

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Thanks for that edit Gene and the note dirrected at me. I had no idea since I had been playing a Dervish for 7 hours so far in the preview event... /end sarcasm

Please test theories before posting them.

Aera Lure

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
I have news from an insider source! The 4th expansion will be called Guild Wars: Idiotproof!
Agreed. And the funny thing is the original "while enchanted" was more clear than this new and rather silly "clarification." :\

gene terrodon

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Educate me then, using Aura of Thorns as an example.


It does nothing for 30 seconds and makes your foe bleed....what is the effect it has on YOU?

I can't see any...but since playing for 7 hours makes you an expert...please share that expertise.

LuckyGiant

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aera Lure
And the funny thing is the original "while enchanted" was more clear than this new and rather silly "clarification." :\
Agree with you there, the old one was cystal clear to most i wouldve thought, this clarification has got me thinking if they have a mechanic that now requires the clarification to be there. Then again maybe they just want less menders

Zonzai

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Quote:
Originally Posted by talon
Obviously Anet think the population of Guild Wars players are stupid.
Have you been reading these message boards?

Arena.Net changed it because they have been.