5e 1/4 1 recharge
At 13 healing it heals for 77 hp.
This skill absolutely what the healing line needed. A cheap fast heal they recharge makes very powerful.
You can easily prevent spikes with just this and rof. RoF then follow with glimmer.
Energy of course is the only problem I'm having. I have 3 energy skills but still wasn't enough when heavy pressure started. With words of comfort it was very easy to survive hex and condition degen.
Glimmer of Light
twicky_kid
xiao1985
chains well with that new skill... heal of hast or s th?! with DS spaming, you can LITERALLY cast spells non stop....
though you are still limited by post cast stun for about 1-2 ish second per cast...
though you are still limited by post cast stun for about 1-2 ish second per cast...
ateddybear
Too bad this can't be use on a divine spirit spammer with Glyph of Renewal =(
HolyHawk
Arcane Mimicry on a Revitalize friend monk + This should make it really really powerfull. 77(healing 13)+38(bonus from revitalize)+38(divine favor) = 153/second. That and channeling in HA should be enough.
Carth`
Woah! 1/4 second cast, 1 second recharge, heals for more than Orison, for 5 energy? Anet you've made me so happy!
But, if I was going with a healing build, I think I might prefer Holy Haste with no enchantments. Then all of my heals are half a second, and WoH becomes just under 0.4s cast.
But, if I was going with a healing build, I think I might prefer Holy Haste with no enchantments. Then all of my heals are half a second, and WoH becomes just under 0.4s cast.
TeeGee
1 sec recharge is great - it might aswell be the only pure healing skill in your bar. Forgot orisons, dwaynas and others - Glimmer will do and will leave mor place for utility. Actually this might be too great...
SnipiousMax
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Actually this might be too great...
Nah, Healing has needed a boost for awhile now. This just brings it to the same level as a boon prot in terms of healing output.
ateddybear
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1 sec recharge is great - it might aswell be the only pure healing skill in your bar. Forgot orisons, dwaynas and others - Glimmer will do and will leave mor place for utility. Actually this might be too great...
naw, orison has been with me since the beginning... can't just abandon it 
Also i'm starting to like Healing Whisper...
Also i'm starting to like Healing Whisper...
Tainek
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1 sec recharge is great - it might aswell be the only pure healing skill in your bar. Forgot orisons, dwaynas and others - Glimmer will do and will leave mor place for utility. Actually this might be too great...
My Diversion mesmer would love to meet your monk
My Diversion mesmer would love to meet your monk
twicky_kid
Glimmer is fast, cheap, and recharges fast but its very very weak.
At 16 it heals for 79. That barely more than orison. This in no way is comparable to boon prot that heals for 100+ and negates dmg with every spell. Boon prots also use an energy elite. That allows you to bring 2 e mangement skills instead of 3.
Glimmer needs a healing buff. As it is you'll burn through your energy fast trying to keep up with pressure.
At 16 it heals for 79. That barely more than orison. This in no way is comparable to boon prot that heals for 100+ and negates dmg with every spell. Boon prots also use an energy elite. That allows you to bring 2 e mangement skills instead of 3.
Glimmer needs a healing buff. As it is you'll burn through your energy fast trying to keep up with pressure.
sno
no way. glimmer does NOT need a buff, it's awesome as is. Combine it with chanelling perhaps?
Don't say something needs a buff just because you don't see a use for it. I use it, and find it MUCH better than word.
Don't say something needs a buff just because you don't see a use for it. I use it, and find it MUCH better than word.
Kuja
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no way. glimmer does NOT need a buff, it's awesome as is. Combine it with chanelling perhaps?
Don't say something needs a buff just because you don't see a use for it. I use it, and find it MUCH better than word. True because WoH heals for 190hp every 4secs where as this can heal for 356 (89 @ healing 16) every 4 seconds.
Don't say something needs a buff just because you don't see a use for it. I use it, and find it MUCH better than word. True because WoH heals for 190hp every 4secs where as this can heal for 356 (89 @ healing 16) every 4 seconds.
TeeGee
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My point is that no single spell (not counting flares etc) has so low recharge (and is effective enough) that it can be used constantly without needing backup from weaker versions. It's not that Healing line didn't deserved buff - It's that this spell might be too good. It does few things that other healing spells cannot at once. It is instant, heals for nice amount (best for 5 energy not counting GoH), and it's more than spammable.
Ofcourse we need to see the skill in actual use to judge anything, but still I don't like the concept of uber-spell that does everything and is simply better than all other healing elites.
twicky_kid
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no way. glimmer does NOT need a buff, it's awesome as is. Combine it with chanelling perhaps?
Don't say something needs a buff just because you don't see a use for it. I use it, and find it MUCH better than word. Never said it was bad.
But I wouldn't choose it over a boon prot or blessed light.
Glimmer is super fast with holy haste (1/8). That still doesn't change the ammount of energy you're using. You have to spam this so much with only non elite energy skills. So the most you'll gain from 1 spell is 7-8 depending on your inspiration. All the while you are spamming glimmer every few seconds because of its weak heal.
Glimmer doesn't remove any conditons or hexs. B light for 5 more energy will remove 1 condition 1 hex and heal for 100+. Only a 1/2 cast time difference.
Glimmer is very fast and spammable but its not effecient because of how much you will be spamming it.
Don't say something needs a buff just because you don't see a use for it. I use it, and find it MUCH better than word. Never said it was bad.
But I wouldn't choose it over a boon prot or blessed light.
Glimmer is super fast with holy haste (1/8). That still doesn't change the ammount of energy you're using. You have to spam this so much with only non elite energy skills. So the most you'll gain from 1 spell is 7-8 depending on your inspiration. All the while you are spamming glimmer every few seconds because of its weak heal.
Glimmer doesn't remove any conditons or hexs. B light for 5 more energy will remove 1 condition 1 hex and heal for 100+. Only a 1/2 cast time difference.
Glimmer is very fast and spammable but its not effecient because of how much you will be spamming it.
easyg
Healing monks can actually use this spell successfully in tandem with Divine Spirit. Other healing spells were too slow to really work well in tandem with Divine Spirit. This one isn't. 15 seconds Divine Spirit is potentially 12 uses of Divine Spirit at a cost of 1 energy per cast.
In the old days, when I went in as a healer, I usually brought 2 spammable healing spells: Orison and Dwayna, because even a 2 or 3 second recycle time will seem like an eternity if you have only one spammable heal. With Glimmer, a heal monk just needs this one spammable healing spell. That frees up slots -- another cool thing about glimmer.
Very very powerful imho. I hope it doesn't get nerfed.
In the old days, when I went in as a healer, I usually brought 2 spammable healing spells: Orison and Dwayna, because even a 2 or 3 second recycle time will seem like an eternity if you have only one spammable heal. With Glimmer, a heal monk just needs this one spammable healing spell. That frees up slots -- another cool thing about glimmer.
Very very powerful imho. I hope it doesn't get nerfed.
Trixz
I saw JR runnning last night as a Mo/A and his build looked really nice. You have to combine with some of the new healing and prot spells is all. 
SnipiousMax
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Well, Divine Favor works with Glimmer just as well as it does with RoF. And while you only need one skill (diversion aside) to do a massive amount of healing, your free to bring a whole bar of stuff to suplement the skill. I bring two signets (Devotion and Rejuvination) and it's enough to mix those in Glimmer spams to make sure energy doesn't drain to quickly. Words of Comfort is a great conditional heal that works well with the build as well. The build is suprisingly energy easy, I've not had any problems with it (neither has my Monk Hero that spams it constantly.)
fatboyslimerr
This was the first skill I unlocked during the preview event. It instantly caught my eye but when I tried to make hybrid build with similar attributes to a BL, I found the heal from glimmer just wasn't enough. Used glimmer monk in HA last night with attributes more like a WoH and it worked very nicely (with dimiss conditions, channeling and revealed hex). You can constantly spam it on an ally being spike and out heal most damage easily Only problem is diversion so hex breaker found its way into my build later on.
GG Anet for giving healing prayers exactly what it needed
Only problem is diversion so hex breaker found its way into my build later on.GG Anet for giving healing prayers exactly what it needed
sno
You guys need to learn to use channeling. Also realize that not every skill was designed for GvG. I wouldn't really consider using Glimmer in GvG, but it's AMAZING in HA, simply because of channeling.
Also, FYI casting time doesn't decrease past 1/4 second, at least it's not supposed to (unless theres a bug with that too, I certainly wouldn't be suprised.)
Also, FYI casting time doesn't decrease past 1/4 second, at least it's not supposed to (unless theres a bug with that too, I certainly wouldn't be suprised.)
Effigy
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Also, FYI casting time doesn't decrease past 1/4 second, at least it's not supposed to (unless theres a bug with that too, I certainly wouldn't be suprised.)
I was under the impression that it could, but I could be wrong. I've heard from others that mesmer interrupts (usually 1/4 cast) are reduced to 1/8 cast by FC. The difference is so small I suppose it's hard to verify.
Hella Good
There is no point in FC-ing a 1/4 skill, no point in doing it wth 1/2 either. It only matters with skills 3/4 + and even then only truly shines with 2 cast + skills. So... no reason whatsoever to use it with Glimmer of Light.
And don't forget that Reversal of Fortune does more than heal for X amount and gain the Divine Favors bonus, it negates the damage reversed, so whatever RoF does, multiply by 2 and that's where the bottom line is for this skill.
And don't forget that Reversal of Fortune does more than heal for X amount and gain the Divine Favors bonus, it negates the damage reversed, so whatever RoF does, multiply by 2 and that's where the bottom line is for this skill.
twicky_kid
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You guys need to learn to use channeling. Also realize that not every skill was designed for GvG. I wouldn't really consider using Glimmer in GvG, but it's AMAZING in HA, simply because of channeling.
Also, FYI casting time doesn't decrease past 1/4 second, at least it's not supposed to (unless theres a bug with that too, I certainly wouldn't be suprised.) GvG is my main format sno. I would agree with you. Though Fish used glimmer/boon backline. In GvG I wouldn't go anywhere with this skill without hex breaker.
In HA this is a monster. I've been using channeling with glimmer. I used glimmer and rof at only 6 prot (50ish). With holy haste you do notice less aftercast.
Here is the biggest weakness (if they skill goes untouched to release) 1 sig of humility will kill you. Glimmer allows you to take more support skills with maybe 1-2 other healing spells. If glimmer gets taken away you are going to be in a lot of trouble.
Also, FYI casting time doesn't decrease past 1/4 second, at least it's not supposed to (unless theres a bug with that too, I certainly wouldn't be suprised.) GvG is my main format sno. I would agree with you. Though Fish used glimmer/boon backline. In GvG I wouldn't go anywhere with this skill without hex breaker.
In HA this is a monster. I've been using channeling with glimmer. I used glimmer and rof at only 6 prot (50ish). With holy haste you do notice less aftercast.
Here is the biggest weakness (if they skill goes untouched to release) 1 sig of humility will kill you. Glimmer allows you to take more support skills with maybe 1-2 other healing spells. If glimmer gets taken away you are going to be in a lot of trouble.
sno
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xiao1985
zealots fire with glimmering any one?! =)
but then one need to spare attr to smiting...
but then one need to spare attr to smiting...
mattjenkins
It's really just a lesser infuse. Though i agree with the statement that it isnt exactly gvg friendly, its definitely a sick skill combined with high divine and some into channeling
Ensign
The skill is similar to Blessed Light, in that the main point of it, in my mind at least, is to free up skill slots on your bar for more flexible tools. If you're running this alongside Orison and other generic spam heals you're doing something wrong. This thing does all of your generic spot healing, and the rest of your bar does other jobs.
I agree that this makes you vulnerable to Signet of Humility, but I think that playing around that skill too much ruins the entire point of running a Glimmer build. If you get rocked with Humility you'll just have to suck it up and heal with your assorted utility skills.
Peace,
-CxE
I agree that this makes you vulnerable to Signet of Humility, but I think that playing around that skill too much ruins the entire point of running a Glimmer build. If you get rocked with Humility you'll just have to suck it up and heal with your assorted utility skills.
Peace,
-CxE
Flashy
Similair to BL? rofl!
and btw some guy mentioned to use RoF and GL to catch a spike... Leave that to the Infuser
Glimmering Light is shit... to low healing if you ask me... I really prefer WoH or even better the non elite version: Healing Whisper - Spammable too, 1 sec cast 1 sec recharge with a 20% chance to cast faster healing skills it will be the same but yeah you need to be closer to your ally...
"You guys need to learn to use channeling"
Its not that you need to learn to use channeling, you need to learn to combine channeling with Glimmering Light
before you overspam you atleast need to stay near to 3 enemies or 3 spirits
another thing... Scourge Healing on a spiked target will devestate you
and btw some guy mentioned to use RoF and GL to catch a spike... Leave that to the Infuser
Glimmering Light is shit... to low healing if you ask me... I really prefer WoH or even better the non elite version: Healing Whisper - Spammable too, 1 sec cast 1 sec recharge with a 20% chance to cast faster healing skills it will be the same
but yeah you need to be closer to your ally..."You guys need to learn to use channeling"
Its not that you need to learn to use channeling, you need to learn to combine channeling with Glimmering Light
before you overspam you atleast need to stay near to 3 enemies or 3 spirits another thing... Scourge Healing on a spiked target will devestate you
Xasew
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Quote: Originally Posted by Flashy and btw some guy mentioned to use RoF and GL to catch a spike... Leave that to the Infuser
That's retarded. It's always better to have 2 guys who can catch a spike than just 1. What if the Infuser is dead or galed?Quote:
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another thing... Scourge Healing on a spiked target will devestate you
Nexium
hmm so is this an Elite skill? sounds like one.. i didnt try out any new skills inte Nightfall event..
i am teh monk
this skill suffers the similar fate of nearly every other heal in the healing line for gvg. if you spec high in heal and try to run a lot of healing spells, you will be sacraficing your utility. i'd probably still run gift of health on a blight bar rather than sacrafice my elite for this heal, just imo. i could see this glimmer dominating in HA though, possibly replacing woh on a heal monk.
Hella Good
Glimmer of Light gave Healing Prayers precisely what the attribute needed- a cheap, fast cast, spammable minor heal. There is really no worries that you will overheal with this skill, you can address damage as it occurs. I don't think this is an anti-spike skill, it's more of a keep up with damage as it comes skill in much the same way that Boon Prot is wired. And, as Ensign said, GoL frees up space on your skill bar that you can devote to other things. I think it's a wonderful addition to the HP line. Better than any of the Factions HP elite for sure.
XvArchonvX
Even if this skill doesn't end up with the same use as those used in Blight and Boon Prot builds, I think it will be an EXCELLENT resource to PvE monks.
SnipiousMax
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... it's more of a keep up with damage as it comes skill in much the same way that Boon Prot is wired. And, as Ensign said, GoL frees up space on your skill bar that you can devote to other things. I think it's a wonderful addition to the HP line. Better than any of the Factions HP elite for sure.
Exactly. It's like Blessed Light in the sense that it handles what would normally require two or three skills, and allows for a full bar of utility.
Hella Good
Prophecies had the Boon Prots, Factions the BLs, now Nightfall has GoL on the table. Revitalize looks interesting, too. Seems to make for some really powerful heals. And Sig of Removal fits well into many builds. We'll have to wait and see. But I can def imagine GoL Monks becoming standard.
Ensign
The problem you're going to see this run into, and the reason it won't be run, is because it frees up slots for you...on a healing bar. Healing bars don't need more slots to fit in all the good skills. They need good skills to put in those slots.
Basically it'll free up slots from having to run a bunch of bad heals to get core functional healing...but with those slots, you're probably going to want to put in Protection stuff. If you don't have many Healing skills, you have to ask yourself if what you're getting out of Healing is better than Gift of Health + RoF...and usually, it isn't. The other healing speed skills run into the same problem IMO - sure, they make healing skills better, but you don't want more heals, you want utility and abilities. Those don't give you that. I agree with the assessments that these will be ok in tombs with 3+ monk backlines where utility is frowned upon for raw healing output...but otherwise, blah. Peace, -CxE
SnipiousMax
^ Regardless, it's leaps in the right direction for the healing line, and take's Healing from something piss poor to something slightly underpowered in PvP, and from something subpar to something very strong in PvE.
Hella Good
Gift of Health does heal for more, but it also has a recharge of 5, and cannot be self-targetted. And being able to self target a heal like Glimmer of Light is a big deal. At least, in my opinion. Surely, the skill is cost intensive, but there is ways to go around that. The argument that there isn't much in HP to really give support and versatility to a GoL build is by all means valid. However, I will point out again that I don't think this skill is geared towards countering massive damage output to a single target (like Gift of Health is), it's more of a keep-up-with-minor-damage-as-it-occurs kind of skill.
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