Heroes, let us use ours?

Draxanoth

Draxanoth

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Washington

Archons of the Condemned

W/Me

I haven't played the preview that far in, but I got to thinking.... when the actual nightfall release comes around, why not let us use OUR heroes? I could carve a very large path of death with 4 of my own characters. Could take some nice group screenies too. Gear is already there, skills, etc. Would be a nice addition.

Mournblade

Mournblade

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

Houston, Texas

Dawn Treaders [DAWN]

W/Mo

I was about to say that would be a bit too overpowering, but if you can give your Hero's upgraded armor and weapons anyway, it's all the same I guess. :P

IrishCatholicNewYorker

IrishCatholicNewYorker

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

FL (from Long Island NY)

Rage Against The Dying [RAGE]

Me/W

/signed
plz do this anet the last thing i wanna do is buy new gear for my hero it almost makes me not want to have a hero. Thnks

The Abbott

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Aruthas Gatekeepers

Mo/W

I said this exact thing to my guild about a month ago..

I think its a great idea

Bahumhat

Bahumhat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Somewhere

C A K E[YuM]

You do not need to buy new armor. thier armor upgrades itself depnding on your heros level. Only thing you'll have to buy is thier runes, and thier weapons. which you could usually just find on the ground outside.

Marth Reynolds

Marth Reynolds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

The Lore Enforcers

Me/A

Just get some collecter stuff for the heros it's cheap and effective

MelechRic

MelechRic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

RA

[ODIN]

N/Mo

I'm wondering... are you limited to only one of each class in your hero group or can you have something like 3 blood spikers as your heroes?

Either way, I like all my characters and I know them well. It would be fun to have four of them playing at once.

Quid Pro Quo

Quid Pro Quo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

I'd like to use my heroes too. All they would have to do is use whatever armor skin you have on but reset the stats to whatever normal hero stats are.

Carth`

Carth`

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by MelechRic
I'm wondering... are you limited to only one of each class in your hero group or can you have something like 3 blood spikers as your heroes?
They are premade. So far I've seen a warrior, 2 monks and a dervish hero. I think there is some choice in which heroes you get, but they are already named with a primary profession, and a default skillset.

Lunarhound

Lunarhound

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

Sounds nice at first, but think about what you're asking for a moment. Right now, I think the heroes they've provided are better because we don't have to buy armor for them. It upgrades automatically, but we can still use runes to customize it. And as far as skills and attributes go, they're more or less the same as any other of our other normal characters, since the skills they use are ones we've unlocked. If we could use our own characters as "heroes" there'd be the huge disadvantage of actually having to craft armor for them and the only real advantages would be that we'd get to name them and choose their appearances.

It's not a bad idea, though, and I wouldn't mind seeing it at some point for one major reason: If we could use our own characters as heroes, it'd allow us to level up multiple PvE chars at once without having to play through the story campaign multiple times which would be really, really nice.

NatasD

NatasD

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

California

Bros who reinstall and then [quit]

W/

Actually, I think once it's released, you'll be able to buy armor for your hero. Taken from GWs.com

Quote:
Heroes have skills, attributes, weapons, and armor just like players do. You can use the Skills and Attributes panel to select their skills and attributes, and the Inventory panel to select their equipment. (During this preview event, you cannot yet customize your Heroes' armor.)

Lunarhound

Lunarhound

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

They say you'll be able to customize it, not buy it. It's probably referring to runes. Can you not yet add runes to their armor? I haven't tried. Read the article on the official site about how the hero system works. It says very clearly that their armor upgrades as they level. You don't buy it.

KoalaMeatPie

KoalaMeatPie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cute And Fluffy in My Tummy

Cult Classic [CC]

R/

/signed

Kha

Kha

Sins FTW!

Join Date: Mar 2005

USA

Angel Sharks [AS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunarhound
Can you not yet add runes to their armor?
Correct. You can't add runes to Heroes' armor in Preview Event.

Akhilleus

Akhilleus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

If it aint expensive, it aint worth buyin'.

Leading/Co-leading Bretheren Of Chaos [Dark]

W/Mo

one VERY obvious reason for not allowing this.
if you could use your own characters, they'd advance with you and gain exp with you, the whole 9 yards...it would allow people to run and powerlevel themselves, and not only that, but 4 characters at a time.

/100% unsigned.

HR-Galaphile

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Akhilleus
one VERY obvious reason for not allowing this.
if you could use your own characters, they'd advance with you and gain exp with you, the whole 9 yards...it would allow people to run and powerlevel themselves, and not only that, but 4 characters at a time.

/100% unsigned.
Its an interesting idea at first, but looking in depth you see the above problem. You could collect quest rewards x characters at a time. Farm, and no matter wo the item dropped for it would drop for you (gold would no longer be shared with party cuz the party is only you). And countless other things would make it totally unfair and people would never play together because it would be far more rewarding to only play with your own characters.

Interesting, but surely impossible.

/unsigned

DarkWasp

DarkWasp

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Paradise

Agency Of Forbidden Fruits [Oot]

R/A

I'm totaly for this. Even if they have to leach your drops and they have to be level 20.

Helps us RPers out.




/signed
/signed *with a differnt name*
/signed *with my brother's name*
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/signed *with my own name in cursive this time*

Angel Develin

Angel Develin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Lions Arch

Minions of Kronos

N/Me

Nice Idea
me like very much

/SIGNED

LumpOfCole

LumpOfCole

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Orlando, FL

Rt/

The Heroes are there for story purposes as well, though. Like party members in a console turned based RPG, playing a lot like games like Tales of Symphonia. Each character having to have its own personality.

Hell Marauder

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

/signed

For people who don't like this idea, how about limiting this option to pvp heros vs heros only?? It'll be better since you can't just target human player because you can't tell which is human controlled and which isn't.

BellyFlop

BellyFlop

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

i like the idea.
/Signed

KoalaMeatPie

KoalaMeatPie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cute And Fluffy in My Tummy

Cult Classic [CC]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Akhilleus
one VERY obvious reason for not allowing this.
if you could use your own characters, they'd advance with you and gain exp with you, the whole 9 yards...it would allow people to run and powerlevel themselves, and not only that, but 4 characters at a time.

/100% unsigned.
/Signature removed.

Manic Smile

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

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One of the biggest draws to the Hero idea to me is searching for all the available hero's in NF. Not even considering the problems that would arrise with abuse and general "it's not fair" complaints...

/unsigned

HR-Galaphile

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

R/Mo

IF AND ONLY IF:

-They just took heros and made it look like your other character, with name and appearance but you would have the items and skills that your real character had.
-Only the character you are actually really playing can progress through the game, complete quests, move to new areas, and gain experience. In effect making the other you's just like henchmen (when you get to a place where there is level 20 hench)

then i would sign this. but this is beyond nightfall being that the storyline is already setup. Perhaps in the next campaign, instead of having henchmen (unless you have no other characters), your other characters would show up near exits. And you can control them just like you can heros.

Voltar

Voltar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

My dog let's me crash at her place.

POB

R/

it's a nice idea solely for the purpose of being in a group and not having 2 koss dudes running around. i personally would find that to be incredibly limiting (or expensive) as i have unlocked every skill in the pre-nightfall game. i don't have all the secondary skills on my characters.

frankly, the heroes we have are awesome. just goes to show that the ai is well-made, anet just doesn't know how to put together a toolbar for their hench. i've only gotten koss and the grody monk but they're out of control (and frankly the grody monk does a great job managing his energy as a bonder/boon prot).

plus i wouldn't trade koss' awesome hair for the world.

Draxanoth

Draxanoth

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Washington

Archons of the Condemned

W/Me

I never said anything about loot, XP, etc. Your heroes already get all your unlocked skills, gear you give them, and armor that scales. The only complication is they level up. A photocopy hero of your own chars, I see no harm. Even if you could just bring them as they are once you reach level 20 I'd be happy. Find solutions to the hiccups, don't scrap the whole project because of one small detail.

Silly Warrior

Silly Warrior

Hold it!

Join Date: Jul 2006

In your local courthouse.

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] (elite PvE, PM)

/notsigned

Won't happen.
Could never work, there would be too limitations to make it fun and enjoyable.
The benefits of having all your chars in a party would get nerfed after release, farming, powerlvling.
Wouldn't work
Anet won't do it.



On the flip side, I'd like to bring my Heros with my Character to other campaigns, so they could help me out on any Mission that I would need them in.