I finally managed to amass materials for my new Dervish armor (without storage), but now I find myself unable to continue past the Astrarium, where the overpowered level 8 mobs slaughter my party. (They do heavy damage to me even with over 60 total armor...WTF?) I have no more quests in the easier area to get experience or promotion points, so all that's left for me to continue is mindless grind against enemies to farm exp and points.
...thanks a lot, ANet.
New to Nightfall: Forced Farming?
Darth Marth
Imaginos
You noticed this too huh 
So far i've not been very impressed and probably won't fork over the money for this expansion.
So far i've not been very impressed and probably won't fork over the money for this expansion.
Former Ruling
I went through there in 20AL armor >_>
What EXACTLY is ripping you up?
What EXACTLY is ripping you up?
Zinger314
Have you done the primary quest which requires you to be lv. 5?
Juicey Shake
I went through it in 10 AL with a 40 al collectors chest.
set yer monk and war up well and it's gg.
running yer heroe's bar for them > them doing it. it's not hard to do your role and theirs at the same time vs lvl 13 mobs.
set yer monk and war up well and it's gg.
running yer heroe's bar for them > them doing it. it's not hard to do your role and theirs at the same time vs lvl 13 mobs.
AW Lore
actually, it has been a bit harder than expected, the undead at the second mission, while i was lvl 8, as well as heroes, the undead where lvl 10, and the group of 3 undead would take down at least one of my heroes down, and if there were two undead casting cold swarm, then two heroes would go down.
its a bit harder than before... but i was able to finish this mission (woot for the smiting leroy heroe who would run off to smite undead at the other side of the room monk
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its a bit harder than before... but i was able to finish this mission (woot for the smiting leroy heroe who would run off to smite undead at the other side of the room monk
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Kha
Though I died a lot in the preview event (I really don't care about deaths as long as I can still continue on), I honestly didn't find it that hard. There are a LOT of quests, and if you honestly are having trouble with different areas because of your level then maybe you just haven't found all the quests that you can do at this point. Like Factions, it is the key to leveling, not mindlessly fighting mob after mob after mob after mob...
There's only been two times when I was a bit taken back by the difficulty in the preview, and both were from quests. One was where you have to kill 26 Harpy Hatchlings, and in the process lvl 14 Harpy Mothers spawn, and the other is where you have to defend this monument as wave after wave of skale from lvl 4 to 14 come at you. But after doing some quests and leveling, those ended up being easy too. I even took down a lvl 24 mob easily with my Heroes, but he really was a pushover anyways.
There's only been two times when I was a bit taken back by the difficulty in the preview, and both were from quests. One was where you have to kill 26 Harpy Hatchlings, and in the process lvl 14 Harpy Mothers spawn, and the other is where you have to defend this monument as wave after wave of skale from lvl 4 to 14 come at you. But after doing some quests and leveling, those ended up being easy too. I even took down a lvl 24 mob easily with my Heroes, but he really was a pushover anyways.
Ole Man Bourbon
I haven't had a problem. Just following quests and missions. Had to farm just a little bit to get my Sunspear faction.
Monk Mystic
... you people complaining started off playing factions didnt you???I LOVE how ive been playing for 5 hours and am not lvl 20. it reminds me MUCH MORE of prophesies. and its not really mindless grinding its just difficult.its not even EXTREMELY difficult, its just more difficult with factions. which i might add isnt really saying much. Im siked and i think if you cant handle leveling the old fashion way then maybe we dont want your n00b butt playing nightfall.
lyra_song
I think the pacing is perfect so far.
Not too fast, not too slow.
Do the quests and you'll level up in no time. Skip stuff and well...good luck.
Not too fast, not too slow.
Do the quests and you'll level up in no time. Skip stuff and well...good luck.
bilateralrope
Apart from one very hard quest, the NF leveling works alright for me. However I don't like the farming you are forced to do for the sunspear title, which is required to continue the storyline. See this thread for more info on that.
Morganas
You don't need to farm for the title if you talk to the sunspear scouts every time you walk by a rez shrine. You'll just naturally be where you need title-wise as you need it.
I'm level 9 and past the "trials" part (I was seven during the trials and that deadly swarm never killed me). I'm still in starter armor, and so far I've only died once, only because I afked in a dangerous area.
Like someone said, the trick is to properly set up you heroes knowing how henchmen work. Give you warrior tanking skills and make sure to micro him so he leads, set you monk on passive, or micro him so he runs from enemies. Stack all of your heroes with interrupts, because they're godly with them. I've got my mesmer interrupts stacked on both my dervish and monk, and it works great.
I'm level 9 and past the "trials" part (I was seven during the trials and that deadly swarm never killed me). I'm still in starter armor, and so far I've only died once, only because I afked in a dangerous area.
Like someone said, the trick is to properly set up you heroes knowing how henchmen work. Give you warrior tanking skills and make sure to micro him so he leads, set you monk on passive, or micro him so he runs from enemies. Stack all of your heroes with interrupts, because they're godly with them. I've got my mesmer interrupts stacked on both my dervish and monk, and it works great.
Minus Sign
true story: lower area of island, that Issnur place after Berhur dock whatever. I started having some problems. running a Paragon with monk, warrior and dervish heroes, I wiped twice. These were my first team wipes so I figured that the game was just starting to step up.
Beat through the area to get my quests done and zoned to the next town, only to smack my head.
"No wonder why it was so hard," I realise. "If this town gives you 8 man groups, then I must have missed the first 6-man groups in Berhur."
Those whove made it to berhur, know how wrong I was thinking that...
Quest people. Get your heroes and pwn stuff.
Beat through the area to get my quests done and zoned to the next town, only to smack my head.
"No wonder why it was so hard," I realise. "If this town gives you 8 man groups, then I must have missed the first 6-man groups in Berhur."
Those whove made it to berhur, know how wrong I was thinking that...
Quest people. Get your heroes and pwn stuff.
Darth Marth
I'm currently level six, with no way to level up or get more promotion points besides pointless grind. So basically, I'm stuck at the Astralarium forever. 
I always nearly die (and my healer henchman always does die) against the severely overpowered level 8 mobs outside it. Is there a guide to the quests of this event so I can see what I missed?
I always nearly die (and my healer henchman always does die) against the severely overpowered level 8 mobs outside it. Is there a guide to the quests of this event so I can see what I missed?
moenbase
'We' probably would all be glad to be at least lvl 10-15 to reach the mainland where we with no doubt will meet more mean mobs.
And I really hope the doors/gates are closed again to prevent "running to xxxx for 1000k".
I don't really like rushing through the game anyway, just do some exploring perhaps you meet some more quests on ur way as well.
And I really hope the doors/gates are closed again to prevent "running to xxxx for 1000k".
I don't really like rushing through the game anyway, just do some exploring perhaps you meet some more quests on ur way as well.
Kaguya
I wouldn't bother with Astralarium until getting bit better armor, just head out to Champion's Dawn, take the quests there, and head west to Jokanur Diggings, where the armor crafter is. There also is couple of easy collectors that give out the armor. (And don't bother with the Monument quest midway to Jokanur yet, it's rather hard for lower levels)
Chuba
Yeah, you can get to Champion's Dawn from the Plains, I didn't first notice the entrance and got kicked by those lvl 8 Insects too 
Maxiemonster
60AL? Isn't 30AL the maximum in the preview?
Chuba
No, from what I've gathered from all the outposts I've visited, Paragons can get up to 65 AL and Dervishes can get up to 55AL armor on the island.
Paperfly
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...And when I announced what an idiot I'd been to the town at large, I got two PMs saying "I did the same thing!"
Maxiemonster, there's another armoursmith at Blacktide Den.
Maxiemonster
Hmm, so I guess that's 45 for casters? Sounds good, can't wait to get there!
Sounds good, can't wait to get there!
SilentAssassin
geez, cry baby...
what I've seen from nightfall: its awesome !!
sry about my rudeness, but I rly don't care anymore about these little kids who bought a new armour and think they shouldn't use some healing skills to keep them alife... omg I got echo mending with me and still die, omg Anet you suck...
At this points the hero system is awesome, scenery is awesome, storyline is nice, quests are good (some very nice ones out there) and btw I love this sunspear titles !!
goodjob anet
what I've seen from nightfall: its awesome !!
sry about my rudeness, but I rly don't care anymore about these little kids who bought a new armour and think they shouldn't use some healing skills to keep them alife... omg I got echo mending with me and still die, omg Anet you suck...
At this points the hero system is awesome, scenery is awesome, storyline is nice, quests are good (some very nice ones out there) and btw I love this sunspear titles !!
goodjob anet
Xenrath
So long as the full game doesn't have any of that "must get 10k faction to be friends" nonsense, it doesn't seem too bad at the moment.
Teddi
I have had trouble with it, but I am only like level 3 . I do hope they 1. Lower the levels, 2. Make them less powerful. i am getting the vibe that since the island is large, by the time you get off it, youll be level 20... just like Factions.
WasAGuest
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And I really hope the doors/gates are closed again to prevent "running to xxxx for 1000k".
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If it's to stop runners, there are smart ways of doing that. Merchants wont sell or missions not available till previous quests/missions are complete. This allows people to play as they desire, not imposing false restrictions to ruin game play.
I agree with lyra as well, the pacing is perfect. I also had a similar situation with that 8 man groups as Minus did. I (we) pulled it off with 4 (3 guildies and a hero) but it would have been so much easier as a 8 man group.
As for forced farming; I haven't had to really farm for anything. Just playing through so far has gotten me all I needed for everything I have wanted to get. So far, perfect IMO... and I'm very hard to please... as some of you know. hehe
Carth`
Whenever I reached a town with new armour I had enough money in my inventory to buy the materials from the trader and upgrade. The pacing was perfect, except for some really tough quests which are very nasty if you don't get the group of 8 level 12 henchmen.
Sli Ander
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Merchants wont sell or missions not available till previous quests/missions are complete. This allows people to play as they desire, not imposing false restrictions to ruin game play.
I agree with lyra as well, the pacing is perfect. I also had a similar situation with that 8 man groups as Minus did. I (we) pulled it off with 4 (3 guildies and a hero) but it would have been so much easier as a 8 man group. As for forced farming; I haven't had to really farm for anything. Just playing through so far has gotten me all I needed for everything I have wanted to get. So far, perfect IMO... and I'm very hard to please... as some of you know. hehe |
But as to the anti running thing: You can be run to certain cities, but what good does it do you if all the quests are locked because you don't have the right sunspear rank? I suppose you could still get the better armor, or get run through the mission, but for the most part its still a step in the direction of cutting back on runners(which I approve of).
Across The Battle
I believe if you reach certain sunspear promotion points you get more and more quests?
Silent Coyote
I was lvl13 when I completed the preview (it ends where you would leave the starter island). I skipped a few quests so I expect you would usually be a at least a couple lvls higher, but I certainly didnt have any difficult and I'm no expert player. Pacing is just right IMO, the only thing that could ruin nightfall is the stupid locked gates (and my opinion on that has nothing to do with running).
=HT=Ingram
Think that's bad I used my quest Vigor rune for beginner armor, and so did like 4 of my guildies then naturally we couldn't salvage it off and we went DOH!!!!
DER!!! How long have I been playing this game now? lol Sometimes people just have a brain fart...
DER!!! How long have I been playing this game now? lol Sometimes people just have a brain fart...
Cracko
If u need help with that Astrarium quest, ill help, i have a lvl 14 D/Mo and i accidently skipped the cutscene on that quest.
IGN: Cracko Infinite
IGN: Cracko Infinite