Im not complaining about this being unfair or anything, but just thought it might be implemented in the game.
Seeing as the Sin and the Rit get new armour in Nightfall, maybe they might add Kurzick, Luxxon and Canthan armours. I can imagine the Gothic looking Kurzick Dervish armour would look awesome!
Another thing is that they might also add endgame Greens for the Dervish and Paragon in Cantha. Or in Elona.
Dervish and Paragon Canthan Armours.
doinchi
Livingston
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Exoudeous
not going to happen, they will not add new content in odl chapters for new stuff.
sins and rts get new armor cause nightfall comes after their chapter, just like paragons and ders may get armor in the next chapter. its how it works the newest classes will always be one set behind the previosu ones
sins and rts get new armor cause nightfall comes after their chapter, just like paragons and ders may get armor in the next chapter. its how it works the newest classes will always be one set behind the previosu ones
Quid Pro Quo
Who says its new content? When they were making factions they were already working on Nightfall. They might already have the armors ready.
Exoudeous
uh, are you not getting the definition of NEW. once nightfall is out, they arnt going to be updating factions with anything. just like they didnt update chapter 1
I can tell you right now its a fact that they wont get armor for nightfall.
by your same logic, they were working on factions when they had prophacies, so why isnt ther sin and rt armor there? According to you it should be. Your logic is so full of holes
I can tell you right now its a fact that they wont get armor for nightfall.
by your same logic, they were working on factions when they had prophacies, so why isnt ther sin and rt armor there? According to you it should be. Your logic is so full of holes
Tozen
/notsigned
If the trend continues they should get new armor in FUTURE expansions, not in OLDER ones.
If the trend continues they should get new armor in FUTURE expansions, not in OLDER ones.
curtman
/signed to Kurzick and Luxon
They should get Kurzick and Luxon, due to the AB. It would be a shame for them not to. They should not get Canthan though. There is hope for K and L armor, because the Rit and Assassin got FoW armor:
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Assassin_Obsidian_Armor
I will be VERY dissappointed if there is no K and L armor.
They should get Kurzick and Luxon, due to the AB. It would be a shame for them not to. They should not get Canthan though. There is hope for K and L armor, because the Rit and Assassin got FoW armor:
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Assassin_Obsidian_Armor
I will be VERY dissappointed if there is no K and L armor.
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I can tell you right now its a fact that they wont get armor for nightfall.
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by your same logic, they were working on factions when they had prophacies, so why isnt ther sin and rt armor there? According to you it should be. Your logic is so full of holes
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Silly Warrior
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Im not complaining about this being unfair or anything, but just thought it might be implemented in the game.
Seeing as the Sin and the Rit get new armour in Nightfall, maybe they might add Kurzick, Luxxon and Canthan armours. I can imagine the Gothic looking Kurzick Dervish armour would look awesome! Another thing is that they might also add endgame Greens for the Dervish and Paragon in Cantha. Or in Elona. |
I can bet you 500 million dollers Anet won't do this.
Not only is it a waste of time, they didn't give Sin's and Rt's any new stuff Tyria. So why would they give Dervish's and Paragon's new stuff in Factions? They didn't do it before, and its a waste of time for the Devs. Although cool, it will never happen.
/notsigned
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Exoudeous
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No you can't.
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They got Exotic armor, which was meant to be one set representing Tyrian Design, and they got FoW armor. My guess is that they Will get new armor in Nightfall, but possibly only 1 new set representing a general Elonian design of armor, in normal and 15k versions.
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Why are you talking about A and Rt armor being in nightfall, did you even bother reading the topic?
Xen Foranus
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yes i can, its a fact.
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sinican
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I agree with your argument, BUT the fact that you're being so...arrogant? is really a turn off.
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they wont and they shoulding go backwards in chapters...
assume that the chapters are released in a timeline...not universally
Rits and sins cant presear they have their own unique armor to make up for that difference "exotic"
i dont think anyone here is arguing with your opinion, just stating the obvious... this has actually been something that was explained to us when factions came out... there was already this same topic with Rits and Sins wanting stuff from prophacies what we got as obsidian and the exotics...
if anything i would expect the same treatment... but all means if you want to be upset about something... remember the core classes get access to everything
also as far as we know the only way for you to even make a rit or sin is through factions so if you dont have factions you will not have access to that class....id expect the same trend to follow...
I also expect that not every chapter will have new professions... as this has been confirmed already still they are able to change their minds...
but imagine if they do such a thing for derv and para they will have to do the same for rits and sins... at some point it has to stop...
if you give p/d something in factions they will have to give rt/a something in proph then all the p/d will want something in proph too cuz its unfair... on and on... the line has to be drawn
that line is no content will go backwards in chapters other than universal areas such as FoW/UW and PvP the chapters progress not degress.... expect new stuff maybe for p/d in future chapters...
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Knightsaber Sith
They didn't add sin/rit armor to Tyria. They may add Dervish/Paragon armor to campaign 4; but you're just kidding yourself if you think they'll go back and add D/P armor to Factions.
Quid Pro Quo
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uh, are you not getting the definition of NEW. once nightfall is out, they arnt going to be updating factions with anything. just like they didnt update chapter 1
I can tell you right now its a fact that they wont get armor for nightfall. by your same logic, they were working on factions when they had prophacies, so why isnt ther sin and rt armor there? According to you it should be. Your logic is so full of holes |
carlokes
Although Exoudeous might be right (or wrong, because it wouldn't be the first time A-net changed something they have said before...) I still want to keep my hope high
Designing new armors (Luxon and Kurzick) for new classes means only 4 more sets...which isn't that much. Besides it might be of their interest to do it because I know quite a few people that didn't buy factions and everything that can make one by an expansion is worth for A-net ( $$$$ ).
So...hopes high fellow fighters !!
Designing new armors (Luxon and Kurzick) for new classes means only 4 more sets...which isn't that much. Besides it might be of their interest to do it because I know quite a few people that didn't buy factions and everything that can make one by an expansion is worth for A-net ( $$$$ ).
So...hopes high fellow fighters !!
floppinghog
obviously no one can say no, cause we don't know.
however it would very well be cool if it was true and anet went forth to finally support all classes made in more ways than one chapter.
remember every new class gets its own obsidian -can u say GRIM REAPER robe?
how bout fallen angel armor?
im still wondering about halloween... if theres an event or what, i really hope so - its very much like kickin themselves in the face to us, do it once and give the impression of next year for it? but no show? lame if true.
however it would very well be cool if it was true and anet went forth to finally support all classes made in more ways than one chapter.
remember every new class gets its own obsidian -can u say GRIM REAPER robe?
how bout fallen angel armor?
im still wondering about halloween... if theres an event or what, i really hope so - its very much like kickin themselves in the face to us, do it once and give the impression of next year for it? but no show? lame if true.
doinchi
Well, I just think it would be nice for each of the new classes in any expansion pack gets access to Kurzick and Luxxon armours. Don't see it as expanding and older version of the game, but giving each Faction a unique uniform. I can only guess that in future expansion packs the 2 factions Luxxons and Kurzicks will remain as the only 2 factions a player can join.
What would be nice is a short quest that would link a player, WITH Factions, to either the Kurzicks or Luxxons. The Obsidian armour given to the sins and rits, in you logic, would seem like updating older versions isnt it?
What would be nice is a short quest that would link a player, WITH Factions, to either the Kurzicks or Luxxons. The Obsidian armour given to the sins and rits, in you logic, would seem like updating older versions isnt it?
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I can bet you 500 million dollers Anet won't do this.
Not only is it a waste of time, they didn't give Sin's and Rt's any new stuff Tyria. So why would they give Dervish's and Paragon's new stuff in Factions? They didn't do it before, and its a waste of time for the Devs. Although cool, it will never happen. /notsigned |
The Zaishen IS in Nightfall. Cantha plays a ROLE in Nightfall. So I expect Canthan armor in Nightfall. Just like I expect Tyrian Armor in Nightfall.
/Signed for adding Canthan And Tyrian related armors in Nightfall
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I can tell you right now its a fact that they wont get armor for nightfall.
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Thallandor
I am just gonna say no, it wont happen so that i can be proven wrong 
That way i wont be dissappointed if there werent any armour of Dervish and Paragon but will be extremely delighted if they did.
Win Win for me
I always win.
That way i wont be dissappointed if there werent any armour of Dervish and Paragon but will be extremely delighted if they did.
Win Win for me
I always win.
doinchi
With only 2 GW games released, you cant tell what they are going to do next. I think that faction specific armour may still be available for all classes provided they have factions.
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Im not complaining about this being unfair or anything, but just thought it might be implemented in the game.
Seeing as the Sin and the Rit get new armour in Nightfall, maybe they might add Kurzick, Luxxon and Canthan armours. I can imagine the Gothic looking Kurzick Dervish armour would look awesome! Another thing is that they might also add endgame Greens for the Dervish and Paragon in Cantha. Or in Elona. |
Especially not kurzick, luxxon and canthan armor purely because they are kurzik, luxon and canthan.
It would completely remove the point of going to cantha to get faction armor styles.
Armors are meant to be stylistic of the continent your on.
That would have been like asking them to add Tyrian style armor to factions!
All the core professions and Ass and Ritualist get new armor in Nightfall, so its not just "the Sin and the Rit", and eventually they will add Obsideon armor for the nightfall professions.
Then when they release the 4th installment, you'l get lots more new armor to play with which will include the two professions from nightfall.
And their isnt much point them adding for example, Assasin Armor to Tyria because you cant create Assassins in prophercies.
It forces people to buy different installments to get different professions and armors.
BTW, what did you mean by Sin?
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I might have actually miss understood what you meant.
I thought you were asking for Luxon, etc, armor in Elonia.
If your asking for Dervish, etc, armor in Factions then I still wouldnt see it happen.
As I said, you cant create new professions in older games, so its pointless.
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That would have been like asking them to add Tyrian style armor to factions!
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http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Oroku
That's krytan armor, which is the prophecies collectors armor.
And http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Voldo_The_Exotic
That's tyrian armor, which is the armor with no extra bonuses (i.e +energy etc. that you buy in prophecies.
And the tyrian starter armour: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Suki.
They're all 1.5k armor crafters in FACTIONS that craft armor for the core classes that comes from Prophecies, and they've been there since Factions was released.
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Ummmm... you might wanna look at this.
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Oroku That's krytan armor, which is the prophecies collectors armor. And http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Voldo_The_Exotic That's tyrian armor, which is the armor with no extra bonuses (i.e +energy etc. that you buy in prophecies. And the tyrian starter armour: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Suki. They're all 1.5k armor crafters in FACTIONS that craft armor for the core classes that comes from Prophecies, and they've been there since Factions was released. |
But its still only by name (Krytan/tyrian/ascalon).
The armor all through-out cantha is still unique to that continent and has canthan flavour to it.
So you cant say "Ascalon armor" bought in Cantha, is Tyrian. Because it was designed and made in cantha using influences from Tyria. Im thinking way too much into this.
If I had wanted a more accurate argument, I should have said they wouldnt add Factions armor to Tyria.
But I still wouldnt say they added tyrian armor to factions, because its only really by name.
Its not identical to the armor in tyria, because as mentioned - it has a canthan style to it.
If they wanted to add Faction named armor to Elonia (god i hope im calling that the right name), then they could.
But I doubt it would be a similar style as luxon or kurzack. It would be an Elonian take on Canthan armor.
rollntider
Obsidian Armor is core armor to prophecie, just like Kurzick/Luxon are core to factions, you choose a side if you have the game. I speculate they will have luxon and kurzick for that fact. They may not have regular canthan armor......
Liv Von Stantvoort
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can u say GRIM REAPER robe?
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Anet we beg you, lets see Grim Reaper Dervish Obsidian
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Obsidian Armor is core armor to prophecie, just like Kurzick/Luxon are core to factions, you choose a side if you have the game. I speculate they will have luxon and kurzick for that fact. They may not have regular canthan armor......
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Rits and sins did not get any armor in Tyria so Dervish and Paragon will not get armor in Cantha. Doesn't make sense.
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This is speculation not fact.
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You can go on beliving all the stupid crap you want, just that you will get disapointed in the end. People set their hopes too high with stupid speculation only to get totaly disapointed in the end when their totaly unrealisitic dreams dont come true.
The A and Rit came first thats why they exist in the world of Nightfall. D and P dont exist in Factions, so why would they put armor for them in the game
gene terrodon
No Tyrian armor for Rits or Sins.
The armor crafters in Kaineng crafted Tyrian armore for CORE professions. There is NO Tyrian armor for the Sin or Rit. What they have is Imperial and Exotic.
To make up for the lack of Tyrian ascended armor, they also got two other selections, no other profession could get, on the divine path.
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This most likely is what will happen in Nightfall. Paragons and Dervishes will get an extra armor set or two, but no Canthan or Tyrian. Which is the way it should be.
In Tyria, they specialize in crafting armors according to the "homegrown" professions - which are the six core.
In Cantha, they specialize in crafting armors according to the "homegrown" professions - which are Assassin and Ritualist
In Elona, they specialize in crafting armors according to the "homegrown" professions - which are Paragon and Dervish.
Of course, they will get FoW.
The armor crafters in Kaineng crafted Tyrian armore for CORE professions. There is NO Tyrian armor for the Sin or Rit. What they have is Imperial and Exotic.
To make up for the lack of Tyrian ascended armor, they also got two other selections, no other profession could get, on the divine path.
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Crafting Area The next area contains several armor and weapon crafters. * Shichiroji (+5 Energy Weapons) * Koumei (Ascended Canthan Armor) * Maiya (Ascended Imperial Armor – A/Rt only) * Wei Qi (Ascended Exotic Armor – A/Rt only) On the way to the crafters, you will meet Mhenlo, Devona, Eve, Cynn and Aidan. A little beyond the crafters are a number of Canthan Nobles, Peasants, and Children who will sing your praises. If you are intending on crafting any of these items, you should note that there are no Xunlai Agents, Material Traders, or Rare Material Traders available. You must have all the needed materials as well as the gold prior before starting the Imperial Sanctum mission. |
In Tyria, they specialize in crafting armors according to the "homegrown" professions - which are the six core.
In Cantha, they specialize in crafting armors according to the "homegrown" professions - which are Assassin and Ritualist
In Elona, they specialize in crafting armors according to the "homegrown" professions - which are Paragon and Dervish.
Of course, they will get FoW.
UndeadRoadkill
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the only speculation going on is people for some reason thinking dervish and paragon will get armor in nightfall
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Darksun
I'm assuming the most they will do is have "exotic" armor for the D & P. But how will they do that? will they have an exotic for Tyria & Cantha? Or will they consider Tyria part of Elona (since it's the same continent)
hmmm.
I just hope that when all is said and done, they D & P will have the same # of armour styles as other classes. It would be lame if they just had, say, 5.
hmmm.
I just hope that when all is said and done, they D & P will have the same # of armour styles as other classes. It would be lame if they just had, say, 5.
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Or will they consider Tyria part of Elona (since it's the same continent)
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Rawling
I've brought this up in a few threads - about being able to create an Elonian A or R; about A and R getting new skills in Nightfall, etc. What I think is the issue here is symmetry.
ANet's stance that the different GW games are independant "chapters" rather than "expansions".
I think it's a fine idea for the two Factions-specific jobs to get new stuff in Nightfall - but I think this should be balanced by the Nightfall-only jobs getting stuff in Factions too. Otherwise we have this situation where Nightfall provides benefit to Factions characters over and above just giving access to a new continent, but Factions doesn't give similar benefits to Nightfall characters. This makes Nightfall seem like an expansion to Factions, rather than the two being independant but mutually beneficial chapters.
Don't even ask how Prophecies fits in here.
Well, actually, do. Prophecies doesn't have its own two special jobs - but to compensate, all six "Core" jobs get benefits from all three chapters. I would have thought that playing a "special" job from Factions or Nightfall would balance out the fact that other chapters don't give that job any benefit.
But it doesn't seem to be turning out like that. Nightfall is already (apparently) adding new skills for A and R characters; now the question of adding armor has come up.
Again, I don't see this is a bad thing - but without being balanced by additions in Factions for the D and P jobs it goes against ANets stance of calling these Chapters rather than Expansions.
ANet's stance that the different GW games are independant "chapters" rather than "expansions".
I think it's a fine idea for the two Factions-specific jobs to get new stuff in Nightfall - but I think this should be balanced by the Nightfall-only jobs getting stuff in Factions too. Otherwise we have this situation where Nightfall provides benefit to Factions characters over and above just giving access to a new continent, but Factions doesn't give similar benefits to Nightfall characters. This makes Nightfall seem like an expansion to Factions, rather than the two being independant but mutually beneficial chapters.
Don't even ask how Prophecies fits in here.
Well, actually, do. Prophecies doesn't have its own two special jobs - but to compensate, all six "Core" jobs get benefits from all three chapters. I would have thought that playing a "special" job from Factions or Nightfall would balance out the fact that other chapters don't give that job any benefit.
But it doesn't seem to be turning out like that. Nightfall is already (apparently) adding new skills for A and R characters; now the question of adding armor has come up.
Again, I don't see this is a bad thing - but without being balanced by additions in Factions for the D and P jobs it goes against ANets stance of calling these Chapters rather than Expansions.
Horseman Of War
this thread is stupid.
unless this is something that will keep you from buying the game... then its kind of dumb to speculate on at this time.
D and P will not be able to craft armor in cantha. consider yourself lucky that you can get A and Rt skills/armor in elona. nuff' said.
unless this is something that will keep you from buying the game... then its kind of dumb to speculate on at this time.
D and P will not be able to craft armor in cantha. consider yourself lucky that you can get A and Rt skills/armor in elona. nuff' said.
Horseman Of War
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tyria is the forest, cantha and elona are just some trees.
i think that Tyria is not only the name of the primary continent but the entire planet GW takes place on.
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tyria is the forest, cantha and elona are just some trees.
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Hyper Cutter
I could see the Canthan style becoming a "core" armor like the Ascalon, Tyrian, and Krytan, and the Paragon/Dervish getting armor with a new name from that crafter...
UndeadRoadkill
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I could see the Canthan style becoming a "core" armor like the Ascalon, Tyrian, and Krytan, and the Paragon/Dervish getting armor with a new name from that crafter...
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