is the game becoming too light-hearted?

Domino

Domino

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Houston

A/Rt

Does anyone find the dialogue and quest descriptions too light-hearted at times? I mean, I'm all for a good chuckle now and then... but the game seems to lay on the cheesy humor kinda thick. Normally, I could care less... but it's getting rathing annoying.

I don't know, it's starting to wear thin... It's like every 2 seconds there's the game slaps some reference to some pop-culture internet humor, or some not-so-subtle play on words.... kinda like that guy everyone knows in highschool who can't take anything seriously, thinks he's the funniest thing since Jon Stewart, and is in your face all the time telling jokes.

Not to mention a lot of the skill names are turning this game into a joke. Call me hyper-serious here, but I guess I just like my humor a little more sophisticated and subtle.

oh well, just my .02

Synyster Gates

Synyster Gates

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2006

W/E

I rather like the humor in nightfall thus far....especialy commander besuz(I think his name was) really made me laugh. I like the dialogues much better I even read them now

I'm with you on the skill names though, I like those better with serious names too.
Humor doesnt belong in skill names imo (I dont want to think of Mc Hammer for example everytime i use a certain skill is shall not name, or an oponnent uses it).

Cloudpiercer

Cloudpiercer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

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I figure later on in the game things will get more serious, the portion of the game we played was more of an intro/training type situation. When this evil God guy starts killing people later.... that should make things more serious.

As far as the skill names go, I think its funny..... that goes for the Dances as well.

Ra Rai

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

personally i very much appreciate the light-hearted side of the game.

GW can be a deadly serious affair with the heavy bias to PvP. that side of the game can take serious work and concentration and can easily be a demanding 'job'. having the lighter side in there i feel gives the game a little more emotional balance

shinrinningu

shinrinningu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Behind you

I was exiled

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No issues with it here. I like the "light-hearted" touch to the game and hope it continues in the future chapters because sometimes, the game becomes too serious and then it gets cheesy.

natuxatu

natuxatu

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Wisconsin

Rt/Mo

I don't think light hearted or not really changes the fact the dialouge and voice acting is much much better than previous chapters. I'm actually interested in whats going on for once and not just hitting the check mark to accept quests and so forth.

Viriato

Viriato

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Portugal

Os Cremento

N/Mo

Me? I'm just happy they didn't go forward with Enadiz Headbutt.

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

I second Cloudpiercer. In the PC Gamer feature, they briefly went over each area, and they progressively get more darker and sinister, so perhaps the starter portion is intentionally more lighter-hearted, for contrast to parts we haven't seen yet.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

The pre-searing / shing jea area is always lighthearted....

Giga Strike

Giga Strike

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

stranded in vabbi this time

None [N/A]

true, personally i like references (though im not getting most of them, relying on u guys to fill me in) but it will get alot darker as the game goes on (imagine organs and blood and flesh laying around everywhere)

Miniflea

Miniflea

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

I think all the humor is great, be it references, dialog, or skill names. Its always good to see a developer with a sense of humor, and it makes what could be an otherwise dull exercise fun. I actually take the time to read quest dialog now, where in prophecies I almost never did.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

best line:

"What kind of idiot bakes a ring into a pie?"

ChildeOfMalkav

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Domino
Normally, I could care less... but it's getting rathing annoying.
*NIT PICK ALERT* This isnt a flame, but the correct expression is "I COULDNT care less..." Sorry but I just had to correct it because I see it used incorrectly so often that it drives me bonkers. Thanks.

Now onto the rest of your post. I dont find that there's too many annoying pop culture references (which I hate too) or too much lightheartedness either. I actually like that it doesnt take itself too seriously.

Monk Mystic

Monk Mystic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

The Ka-Tet of Gilead

Mo/W

...theres quest dialog?hmm never noticed anyways ive always liked the little references the game throws at us. they make me smile. i liked going through luxon territory one day doing meaningless fetch quests (stupid factions BUY A DAMN UPS TRUCK!!)and i saw the quest "More Cowbell"<--late show reference. and although i had no plan on actually DOING the quest, it made me laugh. they do seem to be throwing it on kinda thick lately but i think itll balance out the "apocolypse" in the end

Lord Palidore

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

I could care less about the humor..

Nah,
I love the light-hearted, humorous game that is Nightfall.
Its fun and refreshing to see your Paragon dance like MJ..the skill Enadiz Headbutt, Cant Touch This, The Power Is Yours, etc.

I love it .

Sephiroth Istari

Sephiroth Istari

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

I don't really notice the cheesy humor, yet i like a more serious tone. I think the lightheartedness was only in the beginning.

BlackRecluse

BlackRecluse

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

[Dark]

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you obviously didnt read the PC Gamer article, where they describe the different plane of the world. the beggining isle is made to be light-hearted, and easy for a purpose, so there is more of a shock when you move on to the reality of the cataclysmic main-land. they describe one regiong as being made out of human flesh and bone, and being very graphic. and even said that these particular regions really pushed the T rating

brokenmonkey

brokenmonkey

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

CA

[UC] Uber Crue

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Id rather have humor, and content, then nothing like um Cough EA!! cough yea there bad.

Fluffyx

Fluffyx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Courtney PantsuLand

Death By Teazu [TEA]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Domino
Does anyone find the dialogue and quest descriptions too light-hearted at times? I mean, I'm all for a good chuckle now and then... but the game seems to lay on the cheesy humor kinda thick. Normally, I could care less... but it's getting rathing annoying.

I don't know, it's starting to wear thin... It's like every 2 seconds there's the game slaps some reference to some pop-culture internet humor, or some not-so-subtle play on words.... kinda like that guy everyone knows in highschool who can't take anything seriously, thinks he's the funniest thing since Jon Stewart, and is in your face all the time telling jokes.

Not to mention a lot of the skill names are turning this game into a joke. Call me hyper-serious here, but I guess I just like my humor a little more sophisticated and subtle.

oh well, just my .02
Things related to the primary quest are usually serious. Sidequests can have some humor I don't mind that.

PS: John Stewart is lame. :]

Rok

Rok

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Guild Wars

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fluffyx
Things related to the primary quest are usually serious. Sidequests can have some humor I don't mind that.

PS: John Stewart is awesome
Opinions are like, well, you know .... Everyone has one.

But I agree that side quests are the ones that can be humorous.

As far as skill names go I can do without the "funny" ones. I has blissfully forgotten MC Hammer ever existed but now will be constantly reminded unless I stop playing.

Fluffyx

Fluffyx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Courtney PantsuLand

Death By Teazu [TEA]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rok
Opinions are like, well, you know .... Everyone has one.

But I agree that side quests are the ones that can be humorous.

As far as skill names go I can do without the "funny" ones. I has blissfully forgotten MC Hammer ever existed but now will be constantly reminded unless I stop playing.
Yeah, I agree the first paragon skill I saw that was a funny quote I thought was pretty funny. I think it was "Its just a flesh wound" or something. But I could do without "Can't touch this". MC hammer gives me nightmares. :'[

Coridan

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

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Did u see the quest where the guy had to kill the girls dad???? thats not light hearted...

Lawnmower

Lawnmower

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Domino
Does anyone find the dialogue and quest descriptions too light-hearted at times? I mean, I'm all for a good chuckle now and then... but the game seems to lay on the cheesy humor kinda thick. Normally, I could care less... but it's getting rathing annoying.

I don't know, it's starting to wear thin... It's like every 2 seconds there's the game slaps some reference to some pop-culture internet humor, or some not-so-subtle play on words.... kinda like that guy everyone knows in highschool who can't take anything seriously, thinks he's the funniest thing since Jon Stewart, and is in your face all the time telling jokes.

Not to mention a lot of the skill names are turning this game into a joke. Call me hyper-serious here, but I guess I just like my humor a little more sophisticated and subtle.

oh well, just my .02
I wish I could go to humor academy, so I could learn to appreciate sophisticated and subtle humor like you.:-/

Wow... I totally disagree. I thought plenty of the quests have been pretty funny, but the actual missions and main quests are serious and to the point. I fail to see how the previous chapters where better. GWP and GWF where melodramatic, pathethic, and overly serious. It was embarrasing to listen to the characters speak. NOTHING is worse than some fantasy game that takes itself to seriously.

That is exactly why WoW has 7 million players. Because it ends the tension with also having humor.


But seriously.. what did you expect? How many "comedy games" have there ever been. This kind of thread is also bound to be flame central.

Please post whatever sort of humor, stand up comedians, comedy films and tv shows, you think is funny and I gaurentee you that people will reign down on you as fire and dismiss whatever you think as funny, as incompetent, childish, clichee and retarded. Don't even try to make an argument of what funny humor is.


NF has so much superior writing, story telling, cut scenes, voice acting, dialouge and so on, that I can't help but dismiss this as a troll attempt, or unfounded reasons to flame NF. No offence.

Sli Ander

Sli Ander

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Deep in Maguuma, by the Falls

Liberators of Agony

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawnmower
I wish I could go to humor academy, so I could learn to appreciate sophisticated and subtle humor like you.:-/

Wow... I totally disagree. I thought plenty of the quests have been pretty funny, but the actual missions and main quests are serious and to the point. I fail to see how the previous chapters where better. GWP and GWF where melodramatic, pathethic, and overly serious. It was embarrasing to listen to the characters speak. NOTHING is worse than some fantasy game that takes itself to seriously.

That is exactly why WoW has 7 million players. Because it ends the tension with also having humor.


But seriously.. what did you expect? How many "comedy games" have there ever been. This kind of thread is also bound to be flame central.

Please post whatever sort of humor, stand up comedians, comedy films and tv shows, you think is funny and I gaurentee you that people will reign down on you as fire and dismiss whatever you think as funny, as incompetent, childish, clichee and retarded. Don't even try to make an argument of what funny humor is.


NF has so much superior writing, story telling, cut scenes, voice acting, dialouge and so on, that I can't help but dismiss this as a troll attempt, or unfounded reasons to flame NF. No offence.
Actually your post is more of a troll attempt than the OP's.The OP wasn't trying to define what was humor, or discuss what humor was. He was simply stating that there are so many pop-culture references/punny skill names/etc that it kinda gets to ya after awhile. Can you imagine role-playing with someone and suddenly seeing someone walk by with the name XXXIpwnUXX? Would detract from the experience wouldn't it?

In regards to the OP: As long as its contained to the beginners area, I don't mind it. Its fun to see the quest descriptions and stuff, but when it gets to the dark portions of the story, I don't need light-hearted humor to keep off the 'tension'. I'm playing a game after all, thats all the tension remover I need.
I'm just glad that Anet kept the puns in the skill names subtle. Quotes from movies like"Never Give Up" and "Never Surrender" actually sound normal if you don't know the reference. The only one that stretches that rule is the "Can't touch this" one. They even removed a portion of the name of Headbutt to keep it that way(I guess).I like to pay close attention to storyline, so as long as it doesn't mess that up, it's ok by me. Hope it doesn't ruin it for you.

But thats just my two cents.

Ninna

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Northeast USA

Guilded Rose

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from the PC Gamer preview
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10044494
Quote:
Regions of Nightfall

Istan Starting region, themed after ancient Egypt. Contains port of Kamadan, where travelers from other chapters will start.

Kourna Savannahs and mud huts.

Vabbi Arabic themed with floating mosques and castles, magical fountains and tapestries with flowing text. SPOILER ALERT: This place will be devastated by the "evil god" at some point.

Desolation The poison desert, with sulfer pits. You'll even ride inside giant wurms in this stage to cross the most dangerous parts! (Yes, you control the wurms, getting special "wurm" skills to replace yours!)

Realm of Torment Hell, basically. Promises to look very gory, pushing the "teen" rating. Will be unmappable, as the fog of exploration persists even after you've "explored" a part of the realm.
Realm of Torment doesnt sound light hearted

mrdbeau

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Sons of Narnia

P/

I just want to kill more evil mimes...

ChaoticCoyote

ChaoticCoyote

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Florida, USA

Imperial Order of the Iguana [IGGY]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawnmower
That is exactly why WoW has 7 million players. Because it ends the tension with also having humor.
WoW has 7 million players for the same reason that Windows has 90% of the operating system market.

Quantity is not equal to quality.

Which is not to say that WoW is a bad game (I play it). I just don;t adhere to the gang mentality that more popular = better.

Domino

Domino

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Houston

A/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sli Ander
Actually your post is more of a troll attempt than the OP's.The OP wasn't trying to define what was humor, or discuss what humor was. He was simply stating that there are so many pop-culture references/punny skill names/etc that it kinda gets to ya after awhile. Can you imagine role-playing with someone and suddenly seeing someone walk by with the name XXXIpwnUXX? Would detract from the experience wouldn't it?
That basically sums up my feelings. Sometimes, the humor is quite refreshing... and I've laughed out loud at some of the dialogue responses "Mothers shouldn't raise pirate children...." or something like that made me laugh in response to the lady who's son was kidnapped by corsairs.