I got survivle title 1 but i died in vazunah square mission. I kinda feel sorry about me dying cause i wanted 2nd title more because its more "leet".
Is having the tittle #1 and not able of getting title #2 still looking as a bright side of having it atleast?
Survivor title
Shadow Wonder
Legendary Shiz
Having the survivor title is pretty sweet. I have used all my char slots, so I can't even make a run at it. I think though that you can still get tier 2 even if you died, as long as you have tier one. You just have to start all over.
Don't quote me on that, just something I thought I heard
Don't quote me on that, just something I thought I heard
FyrFytr998
I've heard the opposite, and Wiki has stated as such. Once you die, that's it. Any progress you made just stops. I mean how can you really claim the legendary survivor title if you have in fact died? One of my toons got Survivor (1). And I'm satisfied with it. Even more so that I got it just playing and no powerlevelling and such.
Legendary Shiz
Yeah, I don't know for sure. Just a rumor I heard. Trying to brighten the kid up a bit
Cloudpiercer
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I got survivle title 1 but i died in vazunah square mission. I kinda feel sorry about me dying cause i wanted 2nd title more because its more "leet".
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nugzta
I died at vizunah cutscene bug and I was 100k EXP left from max.
Mtank325
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I got survivle title 1 but i died in vazunah square mission. I kinda feel sorry about me dying cause i wanted 2nd title more because its more "leet".
Is having the tittle #1 and not able of getting title #2 still looking as a bright side of having it atleast? |
Legendary Shiz
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It is pretty annoying when you go back in Titles to see that unfinished nor able to finish title. I hope they change the system so we can finish it.
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I don't know, I'd like to see a way to get it.
Tremere
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If they did that, the title would be "looked down upon".
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Maybe if they were to increase the experience required for each title... but were to allow death's between titles? Maybe that would make it real pursuable title track? I believe it might
For example : You start a character, and you have to get a 1 million exp for Survivor title. You get that one, but you die. Fair enough, no biggie. But you need like, 5 million, or 10 million, or whatever, for title 2. You get halfway to the title, but die. You have to start over, getting all that experience back -without dying- once and all the rest towards the title, in order to get the next one.
I mean, it would still be harder than a frozen crab covered in cement, but at least that title track would never be totally out of reach to you... no matter how many times you died... and it wouldn't really be 'betraying' the concept of you having to 'Survive' through a £$!&load of experience gain. I just think the Survivor Track as it stands wasn't particularly well thought-out... or this system i'm describing would of been the obvious choice.
Maybe im just bitter though... cause I used all my slots too, before even knowing there even was such a track... meh.
- Tremere
explodemyheart
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Maybe if they were to increase the experience required for each title... but were to allow death's between titles? Maybe that would make it real pursuable title track? I believe it might
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I get the point you're trying to make, but then the title could not be called Survivor.
Tremere
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Then what's the point of "survivor" if you're allowed to die and still obtain it?
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They could call it : Highlander! Or the McCloud title, ftw
...after all, he -was- immortal... you just couldn't cut off his head, basically.
LuckyGiant
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I got survivle title 1 but i died in vazunah square mission. I kinda feel sorry about me dying cause i wanted 2nd title more because its more "leet".
Is having the tittle #1 and not able of getting title #2 still looking as a bright side of having it atleast? |
Venom4112
I wouldnt mind an uber hard quest at the end of UW that clears your deaths, the name would be like "Gaining the forgivence of Grenth"
Tremere
Or "Washing Off My Own Entrails."
Dmitri
when I see someone with Survivor title..first thing I think is LEECH! I've left many mission groups where some jerk doesn't do anything because he/she is trying to get survivor title. I don't see the title as some great accomplishment..quite the opposite. Sorry for you people who actually played through and didn't die and got the title...but the leechers have ruined it.
Cloudpiercer
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when I see someone with Survivor title..first thing I think is LEECH! I've left many mission groups where some jerk doesn't do anything because he/she is trying to get survivor title. I don't see the title as some great accomplishment..quite the opposite. Sorry for you people who actually played through and didn't die and got the title...but the leechers have ruined it.
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Also I like the idea of being able to get a clean slate to pursue the title with a character that died. I believe that will cut down on some of the leechers.
Rera
As I've argued in the other thread ("People Know Me"), the main draw (and only difficulty) in this title is that you can't die.
I have no argument with allowing those who already had prophecies characters to have a shot at the title - by allowing you to erase your death count *once*. Allowing you to erase your death count at-will, as many times as you like, completely defeats the point of the title, regardless of how hard it is.
I don't group with people when I'm going for survivor. I take henchmen, because they're much more reliable.
I have no argument with allowing those who already had prophecies characters to have a shot at the title - by allowing you to erase your death count *once*. Allowing you to erase your death count at-will, as many times as you like, completely defeats the point of the title, regardless of how hard it is.
I don't group with people when I'm going for survivor. I take henchmen, because they're much more reliable.
explodemyheart
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when I see someone with Survivor title..first thing I think is LEECH! I've left many mission groups where some jerk doesn't do anything because he/she is trying to get survivor title. I don't see the title as some great accomplishment..quite the opposite. Sorry for you people who actually played through and didn't die and got the title...but the leechers have ruined it.
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Then I purposely suicided myself to see something, and about 5 seconds after I died, I remembered I had been trying to stay alive...
shadowtwin
I have gone through and gotten the survivor title on four characters since Factions came out (I only have one to level 2 currently, and only two of the four still haven't died), and the one thing that they all have in common is that I have never partied with another human with those characters. Real people are so unpredicatable that it would be suicidal to try to do it with an actual human party.
When I first saw the Survivor title, I was glad they introduced it. Playing diablo II hardcore prior to this is the biggest reason why. It is one thing to complete the game/get millions of exp/etc., it is extremely difficult to do it without ever dying once. Which is the entire point. If you die, but you really want the title, you can always delete the character and start over, but be more careful the second time.
What you are asking for with a title that lets you die but continue along the path as if you hadn't died would then be just experience based -having absolutely nothing to do with your ability to stay alive. So that would need to be a completely different title, which was named as such, having nothing to do with survival.
And just to note deaths in missions DO end your pursuit of the title. If you use the /resign command it doesn't. Also, if you die in the PvP battle during searing in prophecies, it also counts as a death.
I am used to playing characters where, if you die, your character and anything that he/she was carrying at the time is lost and gone forever. If you die in Guildwars all you lose is your ability to be called a "Survivor". If they were to ever make it so deaths could be cleared, there would be no reward for playing it as such.
When I first saw the Survivor title, I was glad they introduced it. Playing diablo II hardcore prior to this is the biggest reason why. It is one thing to complete the game/get millions of exp/etc., it is extremely difficult to do it without ever dying once. Which is the entire point. If you die, but you really want the title, you can always delete the character and start over, but be more careful the second time.
What you are asking for with a title that lets you die but continue along the path as if you hadn't died would then be just experience based -having absolutely nothing to do with your ability to stay alive. So that would need to be a completely different title, which was named as such, having nothing to do with survival.
And just to note deaths in missions DO end your pursuit of the title. If you use the /resign command it doesn't. Also, if you die in the PvP battle during searing in prophecies, it also counts as a death.
I am used to playing characters where, if you die, your character and anything that he/she was carrying at the time is lost and gone forever. If you die in Guildwars all you lose is your ability to be called a "Survivor". If they were to ever make it so deaths could be cleared, there would be no reward for playing it as such.
Fossa
Unfortunately there seems to be a bug so you sometimes die without noticing it. Which was what happened to me today (for the second time in 2 weeks I might add). Mapped out, at full health (520 or something with prot spirit and spirit bond on me, from the troll warrior boss outside Droks) got a death. Anet seems to know about this problem and are looking for a solution.
Hahahaha, just kidding, it's on their to-do list, probably at the end, near the waste basket.
Hahahaha, just kidding, it's on their to-do list, probably at the end, near the waste basket.
DevilStick
I've gotten the survival title on three characters. Each time by going out myself with henchmen only, and not playing with anyone human until I was prepared to accept a death.
It was a fun challenge. I have no intention, though, of trying to get the Level 2 title simply because I don't have that much time to spare.
I think the current title is fine. It gives some folks something extra to aim for. The first tier of the title is a nice challenge for folks who don't have *that* much time.
It was a fun challenge. I have no intention, though, of trying to get the Level 2 title simply because I don't have that much time to spare.
I think the current title is fine. It gives some folks something extra to aim for. The first tier of the title is a nice challenge for folks who don't have *that* much time.
KANE OG
I think the title at any lvl is cool, if done legitimately. My Mesmer (yes Mesmer) is going to be lvl17 very soon, and I've either henched it or taken a single lvl 20 guildie out on quests. You really learn your place in the GW scheme of things trying to do your best without dying.
Just to share a story: I once took on 3 lvl15 Fog Nightmares with him... I was shaking and sweating and having a blast!
KANE
Just to share a story: I once took on 3 lvl15 Fog Nightmares with him... I was shaking and sweating and having a blast!
KANE
saphir
I suppose dying in the lvl 1-15 pvp arenas end the quest for the survival titles as well? If so that's too bad, as I always like to play around in pve's pvp arenas a bit on my characters, especially mesmers and rangers or monk.
The Fox
I died at 356K exp because my flippen pc crashed on me while I was surround but perfectly safe (had vengeful was Khanhei in my hands)... Sorry I'm still a little irritated at this junk computer and want to fling it out my window. 
Thanks for letting me vent.
Priest Of Sin
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I died at 356K exp because my flippen pc crashed on me while I was surround but perfectly safe (had vengeful was Khanhei in my hands)... Sorry I'm still a little irritated at this junk computer and want to fling it out my window.
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Leighwyn
I've gotten my survivor up to 1,309,000 experience mostly through skill capping, and am so nervous about dying now that I don't even want to play her anymore The closest call I've ever had was an ele dragon boss in Archipelagos who found the need to gale -> AS me to around 60 health o_0
The closest call I've ever had was an ele dragon boss in Archipelagos who found the need to gale -> AS me to around 60 health o_0
ddust
For the record, I did my LEgendary Survivor with my dervish in 3 months. No Farming, just quests, capping & missions. I only bring HEroes & henchies for all quests & missions just dont want to ruin the reputation of people that really trying hard to get survivor title. Leech is out of my question. Never do that and i hate people do that too.
Check it out under search "SURVIVOR TITLE GUIDE" by Maxiemonster, I shared my guide for NF born with only Henchies & Heroes to get lvl 3 survivor title "legendary survivor". I hope it help people that want to try Heroes & henchies all the way. I post a picture & skills of myself & heroes. If more people requested, i wont mind to post a new thread with complete built the armor and rune for my character & heroes rune.
Good Luck & Best of Luck
Check it out under search "SURVIVOR TITLE GUIDE" by Maxiemonster, I shared my guide for NF born with only Henchies & Heroes to get lvl 3 survivor title "legendary survivor". I hope it help people that want to try Heroes & henchies all the way. I post a picture & skills of myself & heroes. If more people requested, i wont mind to post a new thread with complete built the armor and rune for my character & heroes rune.
Good Luck & Best of Luck
taffette
I think people who are actually serious about getting the title don't leech - I certainly haven't, I play with henchies or guildies. To be honest I think my guildies are even more nervous of me dying than I am! Got one char to lvl 1 and the second is still going strong at 304,000 XP so fingers crossed for that 2nd level...
cellardweller
I hate seeing survivor 1 or 2 in my titles screen - its like a badge of failure or a dunce's hat. If I could have deleted the title I wouldn't have had to delete the characters that had them.
winkgood
I made legendary survivor on my dervish in about 3 weeks. This was prior to new years so I didn't rely on double xp from skill caps either. No leeching involved unless you consider making heroes work for me to be leeching. The easiest way to get legendary survivor is to play through all 3 campaigns normally but stop at the harder areas like after unwaking waters or after vabbi. Going through cantha and doing all the quests will also give you a lot of XP. Once I got to 800,000 or so xp and had the majority of the towns in Tyria, Cantha, and Elona, I went skill capping. About 100 elites capped should do it.
To the poster above me. There's nothing wrong with having the lower levels of survivor. With a couple of my characters, I purposely suicided after I got rank 1 survivor just so that I wouldn't have to stress myself out over something I didn't really want. I only go for legendary survivor on characters that I love. I tried it on my warrior when factions came out (canthan warrior) and got to 666,000 xp. The ele boss in Tanakei temple killed me. (Sliver armor, star burst, and obsidian flame ftl) My incomplete title served as a harsh reminder for me to stay away from crappy pugs. The only reason I went for it with my dervish is because heroes were added.
To the poster above me. There's nothing wrong with having the lower levels of survivor. With a couple of my characters, I purposely suicided after I got rank 1 survivor just so that I wouldn't have to stress myself out over something I didn't really want. I only go for legendary survivor on characters that I love. I tried it on my warrior when factions came out (canthan warrior) and got to 666,000 xp. The ele boss in Tanakei temple killed me. (Sliver armor, star burst, and obsidian flame ftl) My incomplete title served as a harsh reminder for me to stay away from crappy pugs. The only reason I went for it with my dervish is because heroes were added.
lg5000
To the OP. congrats on getting survivor 1.
Unless you set out to get lvl3 survivor, survivor 1 is nice to have (and looks better than 2 in my opinion)
To those who think a survivor in your group is going to leach off you, I'm glad I will never group with you and wish you lots of healing hands warriors.
for myself, the frustrating thing is having to re-start time and time again, doing the same quests over and over again every time you die. In the end, its worth it.. right up until you take your survivor on a pvp field trip
Unless you set out to get lvl3 survivor, survivor 1 is nice to have (and looks better than 2 in my opinion)
To those who think a survivor in your group is going to leach off you, I'm glad I will never group with you and wish you lots of healing hands warriors.
for myself, the frustrating thing is having to re-start time and time again, doing the same quests over and over again every time you die. In the end, its worth it.. right up until you take your survivor on a pvp field trip
Teger
for those people who think you need to leech to get survivor (1)...you really need to acually try it. I henched all the missions in kaineng center and the marketplace (but none of the primarys), ascended in the desert of proph after being ran through the missions, and managed to get survivor without partying with any people in anything other then runs. When I see people complaining about how all survivors are leeches...It sort of irritates me, after all, it ISNT very hard to hench.
winkgood
I posted this on another forum but I can't resist posting it here as well. The most important thing about legendary survivor is to die with style. This is my story.
Orinn
The closest I ever got to Legendary survivor was an assassin. I made it through the factions storyline up to Sunjiang District with henchies, but died to the spawn of multiple Shiro'ken rangers spamming debilitating shot and famine. I was the last to die, too, and had I been paying attention, I would have mapped out, but ah, well.
Deleted. Start over. I was all proud of making it past Argo and the Kraken without any deaths, too.
Deleted. Start over. I was all proud of making it past Argo and the Kraken without any deaths, too.
Res Ipsi
Double XP this past weekend helped considerably (20 caps), but this girl worked for her title. I have no plans to kill her in some spectacular fashion. If she dies it will be because she deserved it.
tortugan
Grats Res! I was wondering when you'd show you'd gotten it:P
Melkorium
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Hehe I see these titles and think jerk (my opinion, hurts group because u can't take dmg really without fear and runners when they need to rezone) So yeah in my opinion not getting to rank 2 is good
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I don't think I was a liability when I was playing, being a ranger I might naturally have been at the back of a group, but I always made sure to take rebirth in case of the rest of the pary wiping.
I might have been lucky with my groups but I never had to /ragequit cause I was afraid I might die.
Cass
I'm not sure... on the one hand it felt good to be able to let go after reaching the max, but on the other hand I felt sorry when my mesmer finally died. Although it can be stressful to play a survivor, it was the best PvE thing I ever did.
Compare that to quaffing ales or licking corners in maps...
I agree with the others on playing with humans. Only trusted guildies/friends, and only if there was a particular challenge that I was hesitant about with henchies. Even then, at times I was thinking how a bot monk will always heal you, given energy, and how a human monk may disconnect, get a phone call etc.
Compare that to quaffing ales or licking corners in maps...
I agree with the others on playing with humans. Only trusted guildies/friends, and only if there was a particular challenge that I was hesitant about with henchies. Even then, at times I was thinking how a bot monk will always heal you, given energy, and how a human monk may disconnect, get a phone call etc.
Velvet Wing
I got survivor 1 on 3 of my characters.. one on my ranger, on one my paragon and one on my warrior The most fun I had was getting it on my warrior, in tyria, without running, or help from pugs/guildies but with henches I had so much fun, constantly in tension when I drew aggro, or one of the henchies (LUKAS! should have changed his name to Leroy..) did...
When I got it, I used the same playing style on my paragorn, and it worked Gave her a big sword, nice shield and just tanked it ^^
Owh, and for leechers, wish I could kick their behinds into the aggro circle
And I seriously laughed my behind of watching the photo-story from Winkgood
The most fun I had was getting it on my warrior, in tyria, without running, or help from pugs/guildies but with henches I had so much fun, constantly in tension when I drew aggro, or one of the henchies (LUKAS! should have changed his name to Leroy..) did...When I got it, I used the same playing style on my paragorn, and it worked
Gave her a big sword, nice shield and just tanked it ^^Owh, and for leechers, wish I could kick their behinds into the aggro circle
And I seriously laughed my behind of watching the photo-story from Winkgood
Burst Cancel
There is no way that anyone actually serious about getting survivor would take a PuG. I got Legendary Survivor on three different characters before Nightfall came out, and even without heroes it was much safer to go with henchmen than with other players.
The best part about the Survivor title is that you end up with a Skill Hunter (3) or (4) title also :P.
The best part about the Survivor title is that you end up with a Skill Hunter (3) or (4) title also :P.