This lag is getting old

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

The lag before the event was bad enough. Now I'm getting full 5-10 second delays and displacement. Trying to play around with monk skills but can't even play with this lag. I see a war hit then I'm dead.

I have a 2.4ghz AMD, 1 gig ram, 256 MB vid card 550 mhz bus. I know its not my comp. High Speed dsl connection.

My guild has post-poned GvG till the lag stops.

Anet you cannot blame the lag and problems on the local ISPs forever. All my other programs and games work just fine. Its ONLY GW that has lag.

I stopped doing pve because it takes over a minute to load a town. No I'm not downloading any new files. This is happening at places I've already been to.

Exoudeous

Exoudeous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Honor Warriors

E/

no lag here.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

And yet, my computer sucks, but I'm experiencing no lag. It's only a little choppy in towns when it's crowded, but that's to be expected with my below average video card. Otherwise, lag-free.

lightblade

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

No lag here either. Try doing this. Go to your command prompt and type in: ping www.yahoo.com


or google...if you like

it's the simplest way to find out if the lag is your side problem

derrtyboy69

derrtyboy69

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Clouds

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/Me

Ive had some lag too, although im pretty damn sure it was god damn time warner cable. mother fukers cut my nfl network, ahve annoying commercials, destroy the menus, and give shitty internet

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

Quote:
Originally Posted by lightblade
No lag here either. Try doing this. Go to your command prompt and type in: ping www.yahoo.com


or google...if you like

it's the simplest way to find out if the lag is your side problem
What exactly am I looking for here??

lightblade

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by twicky_kid
What exactly am I looking for here??
Average ping time, measured in millisecond.

anywhere from 20 to 300ms is fine, means that the lag is Anet's problem.

anywhere from 300 and up is your problem, and don't complain.

ADD:

Oh yea...suggest to move this to the tech forum.

Narutoscryed

Narutoscryed

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

In the woods

Elite Crew

W/E

Well i will agree with opp.. i seem to be getting about 4 err 7's a day.. thinkin about completly reinstalling my os and guild wars.. that way i can be sure its a-nets fault.. lol

but seriously after all these updates i have found that corrupt data on your drive can cause an error seven message..

it happens mostly when your game loads a map and im sure it has happend to some. you will get to 100% loaded and then you will error 7..

So uninstall guild wars then reinstall then disk cleanup and total spyware scan and all that jazzz it mayyyy help ya out... keep defraged on a regular bassis

The Chimpster

The Chimpster

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

England

X-Universe [XU]

Mo/Me

I agree with the poster entirely. My guild had to stop GvGing last night after our first game (which we won in 7 minutes). It was gutting really, rank 1800 or something (were about 800 at the time) korean guild who we could have annihalated beat us because half our team had latency of about 7000+

We decided to call it a day after that, very fustrating.

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

Quote:
Originally Posted by lightblade
Average ping time, measured in millisecond.

anywhere from 20 to 300ms is fine, means that the lag is Anet's problem.

anywhere from 300 and up is your problem, and don't complain.

ADD:

Oh yea...suggest to move this to the tech forum.
30ms avg time

I thought about putting this in tech problem but this is not just me. So I felt its something for everyone to discuss. Do appreciate the tips though.

Keep in mind I'm on the east coast USA. The servers on the west coast. Physical location has a lot to do with it.

Wish I knew GW's server address I would ping it.

Also GW is causing driver problems on my comp. If I run firefox and GW at the same time it will lock my comp. I can run firefox at the same time with any other program and that doesn't happen.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Quote:
Originally Posted by twicky_kid
Keep in mind I'm on the east coast USA. The servers on the west coast. Physical location has a lot to do with it.
Where at on the East coast? I'm in North Carolina.

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

Quote:
Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
Where at on the East coast? I'm in North Carolina.
Georgia

Reinstalling now. 16 thousand files to go

Still causing driver problems. Locked my comp while dl the files.

explodemyheart

explodemyheart

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Indiana

Gui1d War스 P01ic트 [Pr으]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lightblade
No lag here either. Try doing this. Go to your command prompt and type in: ping www.yahoo.com


or google...if you like

it's the simplest way to find out if the lag is your side problem
That can give misleading results. Even if it comes back fine and you still lag in Guild Wars it could still be your connection between you and Anet's servers.

De Frozen

De Frozen

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

Coffs Harbour, New South Wales, Australia

Legion of Kurzich

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by twicky_kid
Keep in mind I'm on the east coast USA. The servers on the west coast. Physical location has a lot to do with it.
Try living in Australia, the lag we get is terrible.

In other games, we Aussies/Kiwis get booted for having a high ping.

Your lucky you have a server in your country, we don't even have one in our hemisphere.

Live with it, we have to.

blastm

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by De Frozen
Try living in Australia, the lag we get is terrible.
In other games, we Aussies/Kiwis get booted for having a high ping.
Your lucky you have a server in your country, we don't even have one in our hemisphere. Live with it, we have to.
I live in the EU, i play on the US server, and if the lag was pretty bad those past few weeks, it's been worse since the start of the event..
having a server in your area doesn't help much, most of my guildmates are playing on the EU server and are laging as bad as I am.

we can blame the pve event for this this WE, but if it isn't solved before NF is released.. I'll forget the survivor title i want to give to my dervich-to-be

bele

bele

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by twicky_kid

Also GW is causing driver problems on my comp. If I run firefox and GW at the same time it will lock my comp. I can run firefox at the same time with any other program and that doesn't happen.
Hi, to the firefox probs. I run firefox + GW aswell and never have (had) a problem with them. I rather look elsewhere to find why they are crashing.

Hope it gets solved

Misa

Misa

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right next to the armor crafter.

Mo/

On friday (first update), I have been lagging like crazy (teleporting, rubberbanding.. etc) and I err7 whenever I load into a map (old AND new).

But the lag and err7 got alot better today Not sure if it's my internet or GW's server load.

bigwig

bigwig

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Nova Scotia

#Dismantle

lag is an internet fact of life. deal.

De Frozen

De Frozen

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

Coffs Harbour, New South Wales, Australia

Legion of Kurzich

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by blastm
I live in the EU, i play on the US server, and if the lag was pretty bad those past few weeks, it's been worse since the start of the event..
having a server in your area doesn't help much, most of my guildmates are playing on the EU server and are laging as bad as I am.

we can blame the pve event for this this WE, but if it isn't solved before NF is released.. I'll forget the survivor title i want to give to my dervich-to-be
Sure, you lag too, but we are much worse. eg. In ab, I am finally playing when the game has been on for 20 secs.
When the game ends, I loose my party because I take too long to load.

Sure the WPE is making the lag alot worse, but the lag we aussies/kiwis have is nearly all of the time

And having a server in your area helps ALOT.

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigwig
lag is an internet fact of life. deal.
No I don't have to deal with it. There is nothing wrong with my comp when I run anything else and experience no lag on other online games. I know for a fact its not my connection with GW. In game I get anywhere from 500-700k transfer rate. The connection is good.

I can easily take my money to another game and enjoy the free subscription for the duration of GW existance.

I have reinstalled GW and I still have the same lag and device errors as before. Its not with just firefox. If I GW up in window mode and start or switch to another program it locks my comp. I can run multiple programs at one time with no problems as long as GW isn't up.

I'm not looking for a fix because there is nothing wrong on my side. I've done all the test and scans possible. Found nothing. At this point I'm very frustrated.

Uninstalled GW. Wiped all the files after unistall. Also wiped it out of my regestry before reinstalling just to make sure nothing is corrupt.

JYX

JYX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Yeah well...GW randomly reboots my PC. I had thought it was a heat issue...but I get nothing while playing CS:S, Warcraft or any other game for that matter. It would appear that GW simply likes to reboot my PC. That said, you might consider checking on your cooling, probably not very helpful but it's the best I've got.

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

Quote:
Originally Posted by JYX
Yeah well...GW randomly reboots my PC. I had thought it was a heat issue...but I get nothing while playing CS:S, Warcraft or any other game for that matter. It would appear that GW simply likes to reboot my PC. That said, you might consider checking on your cooling, probably not very helpful but it's the best I've got.
Already checked it. It reboots my comp like that too. That was the first thing I checked.

I also went to my vid card settings and turned everything to pure performance. In GW I turned the graphics all the way down. I don't get the 5-10 delays but I still get lag. Also takes at least 1 minute for the game to come up from the loading screen when entering a map.

Hate to say it but its good to know I'm not the only one. Sorry you have problems too.

Talon one

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

ice

W/

i had one err 7 since the event started and had trouble singing on right after one of the first updates. but no lag in game (i only played pve though). i have a 2 GHz pc with 1GB ram and a cheap 128 MB radeon agp card.

did you check dxdiag.exe for direct x problems? i used to have problems with random restarts of some games when my driver/directx installation was messed up and not all 3 direct x features were enabled.

TheOneAndOnlyX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Last Sacrens

N/Me

Sorry but its you, I have only got an error 7 once and that was the fact someone was spamming me on skype.

[email protected]

[email protected]

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

I noticed the lag after I have been playing "awhile" = wondered if it was "memory leak" instead of where the servers are located?

I am in Florida (east coast USA) and can play fine when I first enter the game - but the lag gets slowly worse the longer I play.

Anyone else notice this - or are you getting consistant lag?

Priceykins

Priceykins

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

Heroes Etc [HeEt]

Tbh, I have to say that I have been playing the event totally lag free since it started, and i usually lag quite badly, so I think anet have done better with this event.

It could be that the particular part of the server you play from is suffering overheating issues possibly, due to the amount of people on it, and that may account for heavy lag.

However, if you are experiencing trouble running GW in windowed mode, and switching between programs, dont do it, simple as that.

That isnt an anet lag issue, that is an issue on your computer, most likely a memory usage issue if your computer is freezing, or it could very possibly be a porgram/driver conflict.

I had a strange conflict once between kodak easy share and baldurs gate 2, couldnt run both programs at same time, or i got C++ errors. Could be something the same.

However, GW is a fairly memory intensive game, and running it in windowed mode makes it even more so, hence I suggest closing alot of programs if you plan to use GW like this, or possibly buying more ram.

Mr_T_bot

Mr_T_bot

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by twicky_kid
No I don't have to deal with it. There is nothing wrong with my comp when I run anything else and experience no lag on other online games. I know for a fact its not my connection with GW. In game I get anywhere from 500-700k transfer rate. The connection is good.
It is on your side on way or another. Turn off all your pointless background programs. Have Itunes? It runs 2 separate background programs. Run instant messengers? Major resource hogs. Get Trillian or something and consolidate them. Update your videocard drivers. Believe me, there have been updates unless you update them once a month or your card is really old. Defrag the harddrive. Scan your drives for virii and spyware.

What other games do you play?

Aradia Ashkal

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Twicky:

To me I would run memtest to make sure you don't have a bad stick of ram I deal with PC repairs all freaking day and from what you have said about the system locking up and such. I would say 99% that it is a bad ram. The other 1% could be a driver conflict or IRQ sharing issue. Just because other games and stuff run fine doesn't mean there isn't a problem with your system.

If you built the system yourself then try running one stick of ram if you have two of them. Also make sure they are pushed all the way into the socket. If you didn't built the system yourself then you have bigger problems lol.

That last part was a joke btw.

NJudson

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

I only recall seeing an ERR 7 once before and that was months ago. I do lag a bit, but I think it is on my end. I'm running an old 1ghz AMD with 512mb ram and 128mb video. I only play PvE and I too despise going into some of the towns/outposts/cities because of the huge loading time and lag (Droks, Lions Arch and Ascalon are the worst in that order). I do seldomly get into problems when playing my monk because of lag and that is part of the reason why I shy away from that character now.

Come to think of it after reading Mr T Bot's post I should check for updates on my video card and defrag the hard drive.

The last time I reformatted/re-loaded windows something got hosed and I don't have the defrag utility...huh???

Renegade26

Renegade26

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

R/

My computer randomly restarts when im looking at IE with GW windows in the background. Very annoying.

Carth`

Carth`

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by lightblade
No lag here either. Try doing this. Go to your command prompt and type in: ping www.yahoo.com


or google...if you like

it's the simplest way to find out if the lag is your side problem
That finds out if you have lag to yahoo.com or google.com, and doesn't tell you whether the problem is yours, theirs, or somewhere between. No point in doing that.

I think the event has caused some lag. I was getting error 005s when it tried to connect quite a lot. Also it downloads updates at 2KB/sec and it used to go at 600KB/sec. And there is a 4-5 second delay when it connects.

Legendary Shiz

Legendary Shiz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

I've been getting lag like a BIATCH this weekend. My guild won't even gvg because of the high likelyhood of an err7 and the constant rubber banding. Heck, we hardly even did tombs and I was the only person to step into TA.

The servers have been blowing arse lately, and the event is only making it worse...much worse.

yesitsrob

yesitsrob

Elite Guru

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

SMS/Victrix

I think it was maybe just me who was suffering from lag when 8 error 7's happened in the same match. The lag has been appauling for myself, and just about everyone else I've spoken to, and played with over the weekend. Or at least this is what I gathered when 8 people simultaneously say "whoah RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing lag spike" about 20 times in a 5 minute match

Solar_Takfar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

I had lag when people were downloading the 450mb update the other week. I had lag in the first few hours of the NF preview event. Now it's just fine. Basically, lag kicks in when a large amount of players are coming online at the same time (ie. special events), or when there's a lot to download. I got used to it. Now, if you are having lag at other times and it's with GW only, I think you should contact Anet's technical assistance crew; that's what they are there for.

Sephiroth Istari

Sephiroth Istari

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

I have lag sometimes, but it wasn't nearly as bad as it was at the start of the Nightfall Event. I'm glad the lag is gone now but I hate watching the skill icons load.

awesome sauce

awesome sauce

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Run a tracert in command prompt. ("tracert www.guildwars.com"). That will give you a more accurate description of your timings on the path it follows to their servers. If you get any time-outs, then it's probably the problem of your ISP.

Aerian_Skybane

Aerian_Skybane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

House of Caeruleous [HoC]

R/E

P4 3.2 GHz
512 MB RAM
64 mb GO vid card

No lag, takes a little bit for heavily graphical areas to load and settle, but never more than 30 seconds. And when poppers rear their ugly heads i might get a little lag, but really, I have no problems whatsoever...

bizarresk

bizarresk

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

I lag as hell too. EU, Slovakia. Athlon XP 2600+, 1GB ddr400, Radeon x1600 Pro 256MB... Fresh install of Windows, fresh install of GW, latest everything, all winxp updates, contacted the GW support, they are telling me there has to ba something with my PC, yea right. I work as a PC technician and web developer so I guess i can take care of my PC. There has to be some problem with anet servers IMHO. I think they simply cant handle so many ppl.. Anyway u guys having problems with err7 and lag try downloading PingPlotter (google.com :P) and try pinging anet server IP

Route for West US (206.127.149.36) 206-127-149-36.plaync.com
Route for East US (209.0.88.72) 209-0-88-72.plaync.com
Route for EU (206.127.145.228) 206-127-145-228.plaync.com

logan90

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by bizarresk
I lag as hell too. EU, Slovakia. Athlon XP 2600+, 1GB ddr400, Radeon x1600 Pro 256MB... Fresh install of Windows, fresh install of GW, latest everything, all winxp updates, contacted the GW support, they are telling me there has to ba something with my PC, yea right. I work as a PC technician and web developer so I guess i can take care of my PC. There has to be some problem with anet servers IMHO. I think they simply cant handle so many ppl.. Anyway u guys having problems with err7 and lag try downloading PingPlotter (google.com :P) and try pinging anet server IP

Route for West US (206.127.149.36) 206-127-149-36.plaync.com
Route for East US (209.0.88.72) 209-0-88-72.plaync.com
Route for EU (206.127.145.228) 206-127-145-228.plaync.com
Im not having any lag or err7 at all but i decided to do that just to see what my pings were. With EU mines at 28ms, but the rest just time out.. I didnt get the program though, i used command prompt. So im guessing it either refused the ping or its so bad it couldnt recieve it. Would that be correct?

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

bizarresk and Aradia Ashkal thanks for the good info. A friend of mine built the comp. I replaced the ram and vid card once I got it. Will be running some test on the ram.

Thanx for the ips for anet's servers will be doing some ping test. I'll post my results later.