Where are the BEARDS?

ChaoticCoyote

ChaoticCoyote

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Join Date: May 2006

Florida, USA

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What does ANet have against beards?

A few wimpy goatees and a light beard on one ranger face, but otherwise, the game is devoid of beards, even in Nightfall, which is "inspired" by a part of the world where some people are *required* to wear beards. I suggest ANet need to look at males in Tangiers, Tripoli, and Cairo, and I think they'll notice a glaring omission in Nightfall.

I've worn a full beard for 28 years. The one time I did shave it off, my wife refused to come near me because I didn't "look like her husband."

I don't make game avatars that look like me (half my toons are female!), but the world of Nightfall looks... *wrong* without bearded individuals.

In the grand scheme of things, this is a small matter. I find pogonophobia (fear of beards) rather amusing. But I wonder if ANet is showing a disturbing cultural bias when it ignores beards?

Barkroot Bonecrunch

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Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

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Hmm..a interesting inquiry. While I don't think beards are really necessary, I understand there are people, like you that do want them. You'll have to ask Anet. Maybe they have'nt realised that there are people that are bothered about not having any.

Lunarhound

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Including beards seems like a pretty obvious thing to me. I can see them being somewhat less prevalent in Cantha, but in Tyria and Elona, it just feels completely wrong. As for them not being "necessary" well, if by that you mean that it doesn't affect gameplay, then a lot of things aren't necessary. It's not necessary to have different looks for the same type of weapons (swords, axes, etc.). It's not necessary to have different faces for the characters. That's no reason not to include it. The more customization options we have, the more alive and diverse the game world feels.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

beards for all!! even the women o.o

prism2525

prism2525

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Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

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Having a beard makes burning last 1 more second on you

Sephiroth Istari

Sephiroth Istari

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Beards could be worn for +1 in an attribute =p

Nevin

Nevin

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Join Date: Jul 2005

The reason beards are not ingame is because of clipping issues with armor, from what I understand. But that doesn't mean they can't put trim beards in.

Dragasa

Dragasa

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

where you least expect

i agree that they need more beards. so far they only offer pencil thin metrosexual style facial hair, which is fine if you're a big fan of justin timberlake and want to look just like him. i want to see some big, bushy "i'm a man and i don't give a ****" beards.

i look exactly like this guy (slightly less dirty, more tattoos/piercings) and i was disappointed that i couldn't make a character that looked like him.


please anet, take a look at this pic and add some of these facial hair styles to the game. i would love to have some handlebars on my dervish.


i know they'd never go for it, but i would really like to have this option: the Kaiser


the Kaiser would not be able to be covered by any mask or helm, but all enemies in range would suffer -1 health and energy degeneration as a result of the fear and dread inspired by such swarthy awesomeness.

ChaoticCoyote

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragasa
i agree that they need more beards. so far they only offer pencil thin metrosexual style facial hair, which is fine if you're a big fan of justin timberlake and want to look just like him. i want to see some big, bushy "i'm a man and i don't give a ****" beards.

i look exactly like this guy (slightly less dirty, more tattoos/piercings) and i was disappointed that i couldn't make a character that looked like him.
Thank you! That's exactly what I am thinking of.

And yes, I resemble the picture, right down to the shaved head and a nasty scar on my nose.

Lunarhound

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Clipping issue doesn't seem like much of an actual issue to me, anyway. That'd only be a problem with great big flowing beards, and we don't necessarily need those. I doubt beards like the one in the picture above would be a problem.

ChaoticCoyote

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunarhound
Clipping issue doesn't seem like much of an actual issue to me, anyway. That'd only be a problem with great big flowing beards, and we don't necessarily need those. I doubt beards like the one in the picture above would be a problem.
I don;t think it's a graphics problem; my daughter does professional digital 3D for games, and she's made reasonable-looking beards on characters, even long beards, by using elongated "chins" and alpha-transparent textures.

I suspect ANet is stuck in the Western veiw that beards are "bad". Such a shame, too.

clarianaeneas

clarianaeneas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

R/E

YAY FOR BEARDS!!

Including beards would add so much variety to the lacking selection of faces we have right now, and I doubt it would be that difficult to implement since there are NPCS with beards; Adelbern, the dude a few posts up, and many of the NPCS from Vabbi.

Nevin

Nevin

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During beta Ele's could get beards. I can't seem to find the screenshot though.

Solar_Takfar

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I, too, thought they weren't included due to engine restrictions *they would just "stick" out of the chin and into armor. TES:Oblivion has the same problem (tho that's also derived from the facegen technology they used there)

TheOneAndOnlyX

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Join Date: Oct 2005

The Last Sacrens

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaoticCoyote
What does ANet have against beards?


I've worn a full beard for 28 years.
(half my toons are female!),
You sound like a dork

Akhilleus

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If it aint expensive, it aint worth buyin'.

Leading/Co-leading Bretheren Of Chaos [Dark]

W/Mo

dont forget ultra-bushy moustaches

Mister_Smiley

Mister_Smiley

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

could be left out for the beta test and could be added in the offical game.

Numa Pompilius

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At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

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/signed

Because Tough Guys Wear Beard!

Xenrath

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

Some mighty fine beards in that picture post Also, some emotes to twirl and twist aspects of beards would be good lol...

Psyks

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Xen Of Onslaught

W/E

/signed

Yes for beards!

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

ive wanted a beard and new hair styles since my warrior got a year old since I never see him shave or anything so he should have a damn beard and some nasty battlescars!

KingKryton

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New Zealand

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i hope nightfall has decent armour so i can make my char look like this dude

so beards r essential

/signed

jimmyhats

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boston o.o

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragasa
i know they'd never go for it, but i would really like to have this option: the Kaiser


the Kaiser would not be able to be covered by any mask or helm, but all enemies in range would suffer -1 health and energy degeneration as a result of the fear and dread inspired by such swarthy awesomeness.
this made me lol. literally.


ontopic though, /sign for beardage!

Nevin

Nevin

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Tada

Rallick

Ascalonian Squire

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/signed

So far we got mascara, but no beards. For once I would like something that would make my warrior look like a bad umbre. You just cant touch a warrior with a snazzy beard.

jimmyhats

jimmyhats

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boston o.o

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amagawd that ele has a beard o.o;;;

Dragasa

Dragasa

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Join Date: Jun 2006

where you least expect

i made a little collage of some of the bearded npcs in gw:



it would be nice if anet would at least give us some of these in the creation menu, a seperate window below the hair options to add the beards to the existing faces. and with anet's trend of less faces per chapter it would also help to diversify the looks of the characters (at the rate they're going chapter 5 will only have 2 faces to choose from: ugly and fugly).

but it doesn't seem like there's alot of demand for beards. from what i've seen in-game and from the trolls here in the forums, i think a large portion of the players are prepubescent pillow-humpers that have yet to sprout hair under their arms, much less on their faces, so i doubt we'll get many people joining us in our call for beards.

a little off topic, but i noticed some of the npcs had eye patches (the dwarf above and the guy below). i thought maybe they could give an eye patch option to those with a PoT title. you could choose to show it by clicking a little box just below the box for the PoT title in the hero menu. i figure finishing all the missions is bound to bring about a few battle scars on a character, so why not show them?

Solar_Takfar

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Join Date: Jun 2006

what about a beard-eyepatch-and-hat helmet as a prize in the first "speak like a corsair" event in nightfall?

Darksun

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USA

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I'm all for more character options. Definately should have more beards.
I have noticed the number & veriety of faces going down. sucks..

Cloudpiercer

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragasa
but it doesn't seem like there's alot of demand for beards. from what i've seen in-game and from the trolls here in the forums, i think a large portion of the players are prepubescent pillow-humpers that have yet to sprout hair under their arms, much less on their faces, so i doubt we'll get many people joining us in our call for beards.
Dude, that was about the funniest thing Ive heard all day... I just bust out laughing in the middle of work.

But seriously we need beards in game, when I saw that Nightfall hero (dude with the long beard) I thought I would be able to make a Nec/Ele/Mes/Mo (Spell Casters) with a long beard like a sage or something. No such luck.

I'm still hoping for some type of "stylist" NPC where we can change some things about how we look, or like you suggested have some titles connected to extra accesories or something.

Stemnin

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Mo/Me

I wish all my char's had a beard, except maybe my Rit.. they should also have rurik's mustache!

martyr migraine

martyr migraine

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new zealand, mount maunganui, beach FTW!

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Beards....awesome idea! i'd love to see a hitler moustache though!




Hitler is TeH pWnEge

VOTE HITLER TODAY! *pokes out tongue, gene simmons style*


some of these are pretty sweet too!

Selerious

Selerious

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Sunshine Coast, Australia

Veneratio Tutela

R/Me

/Signed

I want beards, if they were available more of my chars would be male. At least Selerious has some sort of facial covering.

fallot

I'm the king

Join Date: Nov 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew: Grand Phallus and Chairman Pro Tempore

IMO this should take precedence over reconnects. Seriously.

Edit: No, really I'm RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing serious. This is not sarcasm

Rathcail

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

They should delay chapter four for a year and work on the beards instead.

arcanemacabre

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Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Just add an extra customization box to character creation - Accessories. You could add beards, jewelry, eye patches, war scars, etc. Would be a neat little addition to further customize our characters!

/signed for all of the above!

Quote:
Originally Posted by fallout
IMO this should take precedence over reconnects. Seriously.

Edit: No, really I'm RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing serious. This is not sarcasm
Yeah, because it's obvious it would be the same team working on both. -rollseyes-

Edit: OK, then. /remove reply

Cunning

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I wouldn't have made a Mesmer if there wasn't a beard choice.

/Signed.

TheMosesPHD

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/signed for beards.

I think there's plenty of room for fitting in both traditional beard styles, as well as the more "unique" styles.

Rathcail

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

I deleted my Factions ranger and recreated the old Prophecies Ranger I used to have, just because I missed the beard so much.

prodigy ming

prodigy ming

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I guess the option would be nice for those who want it (even though I don't)
Not all adult that can grow beard wants one...