Shattering Assault [Elite] Overpowered?

Kassad

Kassad

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/



More or less, it's shatter enchant (in melee form) that does 2 times more damage, with a 4 sec recharge.

Seems kind of overpowered, PvE and PvP wise.

Opinions?

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

It's a dual attatck. You can't really get those off every 4 seconds. Not even close.

glountz

glountz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/Mo

I would add that with paramedics that heal without enchantments, and enchantment removal benefits from the dervish, this skill may not be as attractive as it seems. The damage bonus still is really monstruous.

ubermancer

ubermancer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
It's a dual attatck. You can't really get those off every 4 seconds. Not even close. Jagged Strike and Wild Strike ftw?

remmeh

remmeh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Apathy Inc [AI]

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by ubermancer
Jagged Strike and Wild Strike ftw? Unsuspecting, not Jagged =)

ubermancer

ubermancer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by remmeh
Unsuspecting, not Jagged =) That too.

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

R/

Even so, that's about every 6 seconds, not 4, and if you miss one of those first two, things go pfffft!

riddik darksky

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

now for the second part of the dual strike, do u have to remove an ecnament to for the second +79 dam? or is it 1 ecnament all togeather for both +79 dam.

phoenixtech

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

i'm pretty sure you have to remove 2 enchanments to get the 2X +79 damage. I messed around with this skill a bit and it doesn't seem that effective. Alot of times the enemy will only have 1 enchant on and if you run into a non-enchant based (BL monks) group you basically lost your elite.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Dependong on THEM being enchanted is a bad requirement, thats why its +dmg is so high.

Etrik

Etrik

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Romania

None atm

Mo/

Tho this thing totally owns smite builds..

<3 in TA?

Symbol

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Even so, that's about every 6 seconds, not 4, and if you miss one of those first two, things go pfffft! No it isn't. It's every 4+1.33 (recharge + activation times) seconds, like every other dagger skill. The fact that it's a dual is immaterial when you have an offhand and lead that recharge in 4 seconds as well.

Mared Text

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

N/Me

Imo this skill is actually pretty bad for being an elite. Its extremely conditional and unlike shatter enchant you cant just save it in the back of your bar for killing off enchants, its one of your base attack skills, part of your attack chain, which you will be using all the time. If you hit someone without an enchant (which will probably be at least 66 percent of the time) you get no damage bonus. Comparing Shattering Assault and Blades of Steel (or even death blossum) I would say Blades of Steel comes out as a better skill even though shattering is an elite.

Shattering could be made a bit better by making it so it cannot be blocked or evaded OR making it so it knocked down OR add some other helpful thing to it like bleeding or something. I just think that shattering just needs a bit more umf to make it a decent elite.

CoopaTroopa

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/E

It's incredibly powerful if under the right circumstances, because with two enchantments you're doing 160 bonus damage plus 2 dagger hits. Combined with Unsuspecting strike, which adds a VERY substantial amount, and a quickly recharging offhand attack, you're looking at some stupidly powerful spike damage. Only problem is its not nearly reliable enough for it to see any sort of use. Its one of those things that looks really good at first glance, but when you think about the conditions required for it to work well, you're better off with something else.

Fiddlers Black

Fiddlers Black

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

What Are We Doing [Here]

Mo/

the minus is you have to hit with it ... and if you miss then you do squat ... on the other hand that applies to almost any melee class

Lorinda

Lorinda

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Netherlands

Quote:
Originally Posted by Etrik
Tho this thing totally owns smite builds.. Guardian is one of the spam skills of a smiter. If this one misses its useless too.
And a lot of enchants in PvP are blocking or evading ones. Besides that.
Wards ftw

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

Just so everyone knows, according to the skill description, the attack will still hit and mark your opponent with the dual-attack symbol, it will just do normal attack damage instead.

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

and the fact that all they need is one dodge to ur combo and it's screwed. plus, as an elite it's just about right.

sunnydays

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2006

Rt/

Where do you capture up shattering assault I can't pick up in the sunspear temple place?

I thought shattering assault seems pretty kool especially the annoyance of protective spirit and other stuff. Feels like it's fastest disenchanting skill out there. I think there are very interesting trick that can hit through block and evasion plus low recharge with this boon.
Maybe a Ranger/Assasin. Iono.


Nah I don't think it's overpower. Dagger Sin's still feels nerf. I think scythe sins still outdamage daggers, because they got low recharge attacks and some scythe skill don't require attack speed, it's aoe, and scythe attack skill can be completely independent from one another. I'm freaking doing 98 damage without special skill scythe attack while strike with unsuspecting strike cost 10 energy and does 110 damage with max 16 critical attribute, 124 damage if I get lucky a critical hit. And it's total BS when using and off-hand and lead attack your chances of double non-special attack just drops to zero lowering chance in obtain energy. While scythe you don't have to worry about that crap, regular scythe damage = if you were able to do that same damage if daggers trigger both crits and double attack.

NoPantsRepublic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Off Doing Better Things [afk]

Mo/W

Or take two dual attacks... Jagged + Wild + TF / Shattering Assault

audioaxes

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

it would be overpowered if the damage was unconditional but its not