Getting to 20.

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

I don't know about the rest of you but I am haveing a hard time getting to 20.I don't see that many quests to get you there or even missions.I made up a Warrior at first and only got to level 8 and though maybe more quests for Paragons and Dervishes so I made up one of those.I still found the same quests and was haveing a hard time make it to Captian.How do you get to 20 and I only noticed the first mission at the beginning.

This is definely slower to get to 20 from a Faction PoV or even 10 from a Prophecies PoV.I am finding playing on the island more time consuming if I made an Elonian char.I would just like to know how others are finding this?I cleared the whole map with that Warrior I made up down into the bog where there s suppose to be a big city.I am finding the leveling slower than the 2 previous chapters.

Apocamentus

Apocamentus

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/W

I don't know yet, but if it is slower I don't really thin kit is abad thing. For me I think that it will make it mroe satisfying getting to 20. I hated it with factions where the quests just powerleveled you there and you didn#t need to do any work. It was like they might have well have not had levels in it at all.

jetblacknewyear

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/E

Does it bother you that much that you're not at 20? It's only a preview, 3 days long..not to mention there's much more to the game than being level 20. I've only played the preview about 6 hours total, and I'm level 8, so maybe it's just you? I don't know.

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

No it doesn't bother me but I do see some 18s around maybe if I said level 10 not 20.

DJJD2006

DJJD2006

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

[CASH]

R/Mo

Its a preview.. and has a mission cap, so the actual game kind of stops around level 13, then you could just do random quests... try getting to lvl 20 on the first 3 missions on prophecies in 3 days

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by DJJD2006
Its a preview.. and has a mission cap, so the actual game kind of stops around level 13, then you could just do random quests... try getting to lvl 20 on the first 3 missions on prophecies in 3 days
I have seen 18s in less than 48 hours and you can be powerleveled Prophecies to 20 in 2 or 3 days.I guess what I am asking is this is what there will be for make a new char in Elona or more?

ak347

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

I've encountered 3 main missions, 4-5 mini-missions, and about 30-40 quests. Just running from quest to quest with the scout bonuses will net you alot of xp, and finishing all these quests and mini-missions nets you a healthy bunch of xp, not to mention I made over 5 plat from them. Just explore and you'll find quests.

qazwersder

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

I'll be looking soon

E/

Prophecies is the full game, nightfall is only a preview. Like DJJD2006 said earlier if you tried getting level 20 after 3 missions in prophecies it wont happen.

Also most powerlevelling is done in high level areas like the southern shiverpeaks, these kind of highlevel areas arent available in the FPE.

Must remember that this is only a preview and things will likely change anyway.

Crimso

Crimso

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

PCformatforums[PCFF]

Me/Mo

There are some strong enemies though which are even higher then lv 20 on the NF preveiw event, like some of the corsairs you can level up a bit on them the highest lv I have seen in the whole of the preveiw is a lv 22 seaman corsair (during one of the quests).

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Age
I have seen 18s in less than 48 hours and you can be powerleveled Prophecies to 20 in 2 or 3 days.I guess what I am asking is this is what there will be for make a new char in Elona or more?
Actually, I have seen a level 20 Paragon in the preview event already. Very scary to think about.

But yeah, there is a LOT of content still to find.

Wansanchez

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

i am almost lvl 20 just from doing quests/missions,just keep revisiting towns/way points to find new quests.also always get the conscription bonus every time you go near a res shrine(and they stack for those who didn't know,i have had 4 going at once on most maps).i have finished the primarys and have only 1 mini-mission quest left,which is a biatch to do with lvl 12 hench,which is the scale assault one.

ValaOfTheFens

ValaOfTheFens

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2006

Warrior Nation[WN]

Leveling has actually been easier than normal. I'm on the cusp of level 13 and I've been killing Skales left and right to make Lt. Commander. My troubles stem from the fact that I only have one developed character from Prophesies/Factions and so my Heroes are stuck being whatever they are plus either Necro, Mesmer, or Devrish. *sigh*

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

There is a Dervish on the forums here that is lvl20 (and almost had a skill point after lvl20!).

With the amount of quests on the island, I can see it being easy.

remember, some quests arent avilable until you are a certain rank, done a certain other quest, or listened to some dialogue outside.

Nanood

Nanood

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Supermans Crystal Palace

Legion Of The Dark Sun

Doing all the quests will almost get you there. Combined with monster killing and missions lvl 20 is very possible though i doubt very much i will want to do all that again for every character.

Screen of the little lady.

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/7...l20paratp4.jpg

Chuba

Chuba

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Finland

New Dragons [NDR]

Yes, it is possible to get to lvl 20 during the preview (I made it in 27 hrs), even without too much farming/grinding. You only need to kill as many of the enemies during the normal questing and get the promotion points from them by having all the scout blessings for the creature types. This way, you will rise in ranks, and new quests will become available to you on previously visited outposts. There's 3 missions, two with the standard/expert/master grades, and over ~30 quests to do (lost count already ).

Here's mine: My Dervish

Reiden Argrock

Reiden Argrock

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Arizona

Shadowstorm Mercenaries

20 is very possible

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

I've seen plenty of lvl20's during this event, its certainly doable, just do all the quests (there are tons of them, just look around) and use every opportunity for exping (Sunspear Seekers' blessings FTW)

Spike

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

In front of my PC

Kai

E/Mo

I was in a party with 2 lvl 20's and am only 77xp short of lvl 20 my self and still have at least 1 quest to do.

Ruby Lightheart

Ruby Lightheart

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Clan of Elders

R/Mo

wow..did youguys sleep at all

Artemis89

Artemis89

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruby Lightheart
wow..did youguys sleep at all
/agree, i worked all weekend and didnt have a chance to play NF at all.

but i did request off of the actual release date, so more surprises for me i guess.

sinican

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

SAW

D/

its actually rather easy getting to lvl 2 i missed the first day due to working and still managed fine

using the scouts makes it really easy double the xp and of corse not using any npc that will snag ur loot and xp...

there are several different scouts throughout each area that double ur xp and give you points as well... found a few routs that are easily repeatable... and dont forget the mission xp wont scale... so get them completed but dont reward ull get better xp from killing with the dbl xp from scouts then do all ur rewards for a nice spike of XP...

found myself doing that alot and getting 2-3lvls everytime i decided to reward all my quests

once again though i really wish they gave more skills for rewards at least for side quests... some people dont like it but really its kinda generic haveing to buy all ur skills

Reiden Argrock

Reiden Argrock

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Arizona

Shadowstorm Mercenaries

i'm really hoping for skill rewards from quests once we get to the mainland, I really can't afford 1k for every skill plus having to have enough skill points as well

shadowmist

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Sanctity of Shadows

N/Me

I got a paragon from 1-14 in 6 hours my first time through, didn't think the amount of time spent was any more than prophecies. With the blessings that give u double xp and promotion points for killing certain monsters, leveling up was pretty easy. Dunno if it gets harder after lvl 14 cause I deleted my paragon after to make a dervish. Got the dervish to lvl 8 in 2 hours this time before deleting for pvp testing.

Omega X

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Age
I don't know about the rest of you but I am haveing a hard time getting to 20.I don't see that many quests to get you there or even missions.
The thing is, ALL of the quests are not IN a city. Some quests take you on a path to other quests. And some quests are in the middle of NO WHERE so you have to explore a bit.

I didn't even know where Vabbi was until I went north of the main island. And there were like 6 quests out there.

Oofus

Oofus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.

Cold Hard [CASH]

20 is very do-able. There are more quests then you can shake a stick at. Almost at level 20 now, up to 19+. Woulda been at 20 a long time ago if I knew earlier about +50% exp from the scouts and if I had bothered to buy scrolls. Even got me some slick silver armor, going for blacks before the end.

bigwig

bigwig

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Nova Scotia

#Dismantle

I don't think the OP realizes new quests open up in different towns when you reach a new sunspear rank. because there are plenty of them

ramma77

ramma77

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

South Shields, England

The Psycho Titans

R/

you could be powere levelled to 20 in prophecies in about 10 hours. or just play the game.

i got to 17 no bother. save quest rewards for later.

Oofus

Oofus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.

Cold Hard [CASH]

So close, less then 2,600 exp to go to get |v|20. Did all the quests and it's tough to get exp when you're 8 levels above almost everything you kill. Did manage to get 1 black armor piece tho to add to my other 3 silvers. But with T -5 minutes to go I guess that's as far as I'm gona get.

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

I got to 20 without trying very hard. I certainly didn't need to farm for xp, I just tackled every quest I found. I did make a point of it to always carry all the scout blessings I could though.

Xiypher

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Shiverpeak Cartel [Shiv] - Leader

W/

if 20 is coming along that fast, i think it should be toned down a bit, you have to remember factions and prof, in prof there was the pre-searing, where lvl 10 was a lot of work, and 20 was almost impossable, in factions the training island got you to 18+ in a few hours time, and now in nightfall on the training island lvl 15+ are everywhere.

i miss prof, where you were half way through the game and only lvl 15.

Bhaaltazar

Bhaaltazar

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Forgotten Myth

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiypher
if 20 is coming along that fast, i think it should be toned down a bit, you have to remember factions and prof, in prof there was the pre-searing, where lvl 10 was a lot of work, and 20 was almost impossable, in factions the training island got you to 18+ in a few hours time, and now in nightfall on the training island lvl 15+ are everywhere.

i miss prof, where you were half way through the game and only lvl 15.
I totally agree here.. What will happen later on on main land.. like factions where u get this few 1000 XP that u do not need. I'd like to know what kind of rewards do u get later on after u already reached lvl 20 and u no longer need more XP, therefor u have no reason to bother with this long quest ( which usualy contained run and kill all over the place and no real rewards ).

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigwig
I don't think the OP realizes new quests open up in different towns when you reach a new sunspear rank. because there are plenty of them
That is exactly it and I thought it would be more like Prophecies where you can leave the Island anytime you wanted much like presearing.I didn't realizes you had to gain rank here to get more quests and areas.I hope that was for the WPE and it doesn't end up this way in when the game finally is out.

ChildeOfMalkav

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiypher
if 20 is coming along that fast, i think it should be toned down a bit, you have to remember factions and prof, in prof there was the pre-searing, where lvl 10 was a lot of work, and 20 was almost impossable, in factions the training island got you to 18+ in a few hours time, and now in nightfall on the training island lvl 15+ are everywhere.

i miss prof, where you were half way through the game and only lvl 15.
You guys dont get it at all. Youre supposed to be at level 20 or damn near it when you come out of the starter island. Because the content from then on will be level 20 content so that the imported level 20 characters from other chapters will be able to do them.

If half the chapter is prelevel 20 stuff, then all those other level 20s will miss out on half the content. Making the bulk of the game as level 20 content ensures that everyone will have a chance to enjoy the game, whether you're starting a new character or importing one.

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bhaaltazar
I totally agree here.. What will happen later on on main land.. like factions where u get this few 1000 XP that u do not need.
Speak for yourself. My Factions character could barely keep up gaining XP to keep her buying and capping skills. Without all the 3,000+ XP quests, I'd have had to spend time grinding for experience.

=HT=Ingram

=HT=Ingram

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

I know lots of people forgot to do the recommended thing of talking to the scouts Early... That way you got max exp. when you stopped getting the scouts talking to you... around lev 15... then start doing the extra quests for the Exp from those... you will find that if you use this strategy when it goes live it will be VERY VERY easy to get to lev 20. and still have lots of quests to accumulate skill points with.

I didnt do this myself during the event as I didnt want to outclass the region... makes it too easy and boring in my opinion. but when it goes live I will not do much on this island beyond primaries , so I will be power grinding to lev 20 using scouts and scrolls really fast so I can head for Kourna... or better yet just bring my old original Prophecies character over to do primaries quickly and off to rest of game in first day or so...

gwhobo

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Lost Saracens

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiypher
if 20 is coming along that fast, i think it should be toned down a bit, you have to remember factions and prof, in prof there was the pre-searing, where lvl 10 was a lot of work, and 20 was almost impossable, in factions the training island got you to 18+ in a few hours time, and now in nightfall on the training island lvl 15+ are everywhere.

i miss prof, where you were half way through the game and only lvl 15.
/Disagree I don't think it should be toned down at all really. Prophecies was way to much of a grind for most people and most people don't want to do it again. Factions had rewards for doing nearly nothing at all (Such as running from Togo to the Masters, then from them to the trainer for an (Guessing)5k exp) In Nightfall, there are no gimme quests, we fight and work for nearly every quest, and everything seems very well balanced.

Oofus

Oofus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.

Cold Hard [CASH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by gwhobo
In Nightfall, there are no gimme quests, we fight and work for nearly every quest
Nightfall had TONS of "gimme" quests, where all you had to do was walk 5 feet away from a town or just talk to 3 people who were located in towns. There were many that were very time consumming and "difficult" as well, but a lot of quests were rediculously easy and required virtually no effort at all.