Acolyte Jin (Ranger Hero) bad use of traps.

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

I set Acolyte Jin (the female ranger hero) to resolve trapper and the only she do is randomly trap whatever she is, not at foot of foes, even equipping she with an axe, and if I equip she with a staff (for energy) she trap very far of the action (same with bow)

And, will be possible in final version change the mask of the ranger hero to W.Survival or B.Mastery or whatever??

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

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The Heros have no A.I right now telling them HOW to use most skills.

You were told this before the event even started. On their website.

They know this. They just haven't made the hero's Intelligent yet. This IS just a preview mind you.

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Former Ruling
The Heros have no A.I right now telling them HOW to use most skills.

You were told this before the event even started. On their website.

They know this. They just haven't made the hero's Intelligent yet. This IS just a preview mind you.
Yeah, I know that, anyway, I don't know why but I think ranger hero won't trap well in retail version Is this pessimism? maybe.

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

You have control of the heroes. So this should not be a problem, when you start the battle set the flag right in the middle of the enemies and she will run in.

ak347

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Why would you even consider making her a trapper? Even without much AI, the heros and henchies are the best interrupters in the game, bar none. Set savage slash and distracting blow on the war hero, savage shot + distracting shot + punishing shot + concussion shot on jin. Its such a ridiculously good combination that most of your enemies wont get a chance to do anything.

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by ak347
Why would you even consider making her a trapper? Even without much AI, the heros and henchies are the best interrupters in the game, bar none. Set savage slash and distracting blow on the war hero, savage shot + distracting shot + punishing shot + concussion shot on jin. Its such a ridiculously good combination that most of your enemies wont get a chance to do anything.
I know I just wanna some trapping fun. Also, one of the reason I will buy Nightfall is for make my own builds with heroes, including trappers.

AstralizeR

AstralizeR

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

the Netherlands

I've set one of the monks to play bonder and set him to "passive"
he maintained all bonds using blessed sig, which i think is pretty impressive so the AI isn't all that bad

i have no idea why the ranger would randomly trap, maybe its set to defensive for her protection.

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by AstralizeR
I've set one of the monks to play bonder and set him to "passive"
he maintained all bonds using blessed sig, which i think is pretty impressive so the AI isn't all that bad

i have no idea why the ranger would randomly trap, maybe its set to defensive for her protection.
I tested bonder too with the signet, maybe they don't improved yet the ranger because you get she at the end of demo, I hope.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

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Quote:
Originally Posted by AstralizeR
I've set one of the monks to play bonder and set him to "passive"
he maintained all bonds using blessed sig, which i think is pretty impressive so the AI isn't all that bad

i have no idea why the ranger would randomly trap, maybe its set to defensive for her protection.
How did you get a Full Bonder to work?

My Heros wont let themselves go under 0 Energy Regen (They flat out REFUSE to cast a maintained enchantment if they have 0 regen - even if I "check mark" the enchantment to cast).

So Mine cant have more than 4 bonds up >_> A bonder that bonds half the party is lame...

I tryed Friday, so maybe they've improved this feature in one of the updates. Who knows.

Solar_Takfar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Former Ruling
My Heros wont let themselves go under 0 Energy Regen (They flat out REFUSE to cast a maintained enchantment if they have 0 regen - even if I "check mark" the enchantment to cast).
try Blood-ritualing the bonder... or getting one of the other heroes to do it, if you don't want to carry BR yourself. No, I haven't tried it. didn't even try to set up a bonder hero, myself.

Mr_T_bot

Mr_T_bot

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by AstralizeR
I've set one of the monks to play bonder and set him to "passive"
he maintained all bonds using blessed sig, which i think is pretty impressive so the AI isn't all that bad

i have no idea why the ranger would randomly trap, maybe its set to defensive for her protection.
I got the other acolyte and turned him into an interrupt/offensive domination mesmer, does a bloody good job.

And if she is randomly setting traps that is because settings traps randomly is default AI. All the mosnters with traps do it. That's why you make sure to equip them with skills you know the game AI can use or you micromanage.

PS. Dankuro is a crappy healing monk but the girl whose name I can't spell who is a protection monk is a great healer monk.

Caelus The Fallen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Glasgow

Voice of the Darkness

E/Mo

The AI seems to be really bad atm.
Someone suggested setting the Ranger up as an interupter,in fact I did that, hoping for some Erys Vasburg/Daeman action.... nope, she just put up RTW and plinked away. I had to force the use of her interupts which is worse than me doing it myself. Hope this gets fixed, but I can see it being really hard.

Kelsey Cain

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

It is possible to get your Ranger hero to charm a pet. Equip charm animal and use the hero control panel to activate the skill when you have a tameable creature targetted.

Don't know whether it's a bug or not, but after entering a town or outpost, the pet doesn't re-appear.

supaet

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

where you get the ranger hero....I beat the preview event...Only have 4 heroes, 2 monks, koss and a dervish...

Kelsey Cain

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

About midway through, you get to choose one of two heroes that arrive from Cantha.

Quest starts at the docks, if memory serves.

Angel Develin

Angel Develin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Lions Arch

Minions of Kronos

N/Me

you can press on your hero's skills (control pannel) when you lead them into battle, so maybe you could say when and where the ranger has to trap.

Mr_T_bot

Mr_T_bot

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelsey Cain
It is possible to get your Ranger hero to charm a pet. Equip charm animal and use the hero control panel to activate the skill when you have a tameable creature targetted.

Don't know whether it's a bug or not, but after entering a town or outpost, the pet doesn't re-appear.
They said that heroes cannot charm pets on the website..

rezabm

rezabm

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Nightshift Resurrection

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_T_bot
They said that heroes cannot charm pets on the website..
They actually can and not only one...all these pink chickens belong to Mr. Koss

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

You should've taken the other acolyte, turn it into a Nuker.

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevin
You should've taken the other acolyte, turn it into a Nuker.
I think I will play (myself) an ele in final version, so, I want the ranger. They must change ranger hero traps to touches or something like that, and she will go toe to toe to trap target.

ramma77

ramma77

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

South Shields, England

The Psycho Titans

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Did anyone else try using a monk as a MM?

works very very nice. i gave her OoB for some weird reason.. i could have just given another hench BR. but she raised 8 minions/horrors and kept them alive quite well. she even stuck death nova on them.

i love heros

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by ramma77
Did anyone else try using a monk as a MM?

works very very nice. i gave her OoB for some weird reason.. i could have just given another hench BR. but she raised 8 minions/horrors and kept them alive quite well. she even stuck death nova on them.

i love heros
Yeah, heroes are impressive, I am not complaining, I will buy Nightfall ASAP. I am talking about traps, just hoping if a developer read this and fix this before final release.

Shattered Self

Shattered Self

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

PvE

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Don't get your hopes up too much. AI is probably second only to the graphics engine in complexity and difficulty to improve.

ectospasm

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Jin also spams spirits and healing spring soon after they die/runs out. (conflagration to be exact)

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shattered Self
Don't get your hopes up too much. AI is probably second only to the graphics engine in complexity and difficulty to improve.
Graphics engine? graphics engine is ready, you've seen in event, the same GW engine of all time

A.I. is VERY important this time, because they are using heroes as propaganda