Decision quests

Kelsey Cain

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

One of the 'features' I liked was the 'decision' quests - particularly the 'choose an heir' quest. I am presuming/hoping that your choice will somehow effect events later on in the game.

The other varied outcome quest I can recall was the 'trial' quest. Tried most of the combinations of witnesses and question answers, and although the score was always against the sunspears, the margin varied a lot depending on the combinations used. The best I managed was a one point difference and again I'm wondering if/how this might affect the game later.

Still have a few quests left to do so may have missed any others.

Coridan

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

W/

very interesting....It would be awesome if it did have an effect on the storyline :P

LumpOfCole

LumpOfCole

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Orlando, FL

Rt/

The trial seemed quite Chrono Trigger to me. I wish the Phoenix Wright music would play

Lord Palidore

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Yeah, I agree.

I like the fact that some of the quest and missions (ie the Blacktide Den mission) aren't so linear anymore .

I'm really enjoying Nightfall a lot .

Temptress

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2006

Hi,

IMO the decision was tough until I figured out that I wanted the First Born fighter with me. The quest says Master and I didn't think the second or third born could cut it in the battlefeild. (Then again I can't cut it inthe battlefeild since I haven't finished this mission yet.) Found it a bit early I think. Was level 9 at the time. Will go back to it later if time allows.

~T

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

lol, I took 2nd born, I was lvl10. Grabbing the inheritance was easy.

gamecube187

gamecube187

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Sry for the noob question, but what are you guys talking about, and how does it relate to nightfall?

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

lol, there are a couple of quests that ask you to make a decision. Remember the "Drink of the Chalice/Refuse to Drink" combination - you could only choose one?
Well it's the same thing. This thread however was speculating as to whether or not they would have more significance than the chalice quest did in Factions.

Kelsey Cain

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

One of the advertised selling points of the game is : 'Player actions will result in dramatic consequences' - So I'm hoping that (a) there will be a lot more of these type of quests and (b) the outcomes based on player decisions are indeed dramatic.

The trial score might for instance, determine the hostility of the kournan resistance in the upcoming war - trial goes well, less enemies to fight - trial goes badly, harder battles against higher level opponents.

Likewise your choice of heir will hopefully be significant later on in the game.
Firstborn - turns up during a difficult mission with allies to lend support
Secondborn - Healing/aid later on in the game
Thirdborn - Mission later in the game is harder as renegade thirdborn is on the enemy side.

Just some thoughts on those quests I've seen so far.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

did the inheritance one, but never got the trial quest......where was that one?

Kelsey Cain

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by cosyfiep
did the inheritance one, but never got the trial quest......where was that one? The trial was one of the main quests - where you present witnesses and answer questions. There is a score displayed as the trial progresses.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelsey Cain
The trial was one of the main quests - where you present witnesses and answer questions. There is a score displayed as the trial progresses.
never got that one.....maybe I never did anything wrong.....I got all the cities and did the 2 major missions....when did this quest come in?

Horseman Of War

Horseman Of War

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Cult of Doom

P/

I like that one where you have to find that one dude and interrogate him.

I killed him. (thank you anet for letting me choose lol)

Shattered Self

Shattered Self

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

PvE

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by cosyfiep
never got that one.....maybe I never did anything wrong.....I got all the cities and did the 2 major missions....when did this quest come in? You're not done with the main quests in the preview until it plays a little video that ends with "Guild Wars Nightfall...10.27.06". At some point after the 2nd mission it dumps you in the main city, and one of the Sunspear officers in town has a new primary quest for you, but it doesn't really direct you to him.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

ah got dumped in the main city but didnt see that last quest...was wondering why it dumped me there....

Solar_Takfar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by LumpOfCole
The trial seemed quite Chrono Trigger to me. I wish the Phoenix Wright music would play YES! The scene sent me right back to playing on my SNES, and humming the catchy background music for the trial. Oh, /me wants play CT again!!!

UndeadRoadkill

UndeadRoadkill

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

I believe in the PC Gamer preview, they mention that their will be choices you have to make that will affect the story later in the game, so I think we can expect to see a few things like this.

I am VERY happy to see some semblance of actual role-playing in this game, I think Anet is really going in the right direction with this one.

Maedhros

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Qu??bec, Canada

The Dark Aeon Knights

E/Mo

/me nods vigourously.
That preview, i found it so incredible, will totally like this... Then again, we are used to great work from ANet ha ha ha...
I really think ANet will have great success with this chapter... Maybe more than Prophecies! I am seeing a great "avenir" for Nightfall, this will be great. I hope that further chapters will be "à la hauteur de son succès".

(Sorry for the french quotes, english is not my native language.)

~Maedhros

ubermancer

ubermancer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

******************* Refuge From Exile [RFE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by LumpOfCole
The trial seemed quite Chrono Trigger to me. I wish the Phoenix Wright music would play Bingo. And if you are going to base a MMO off of a RPG, you could do *ALOT* worse then Chrono Trigger.

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

One quest I liked was A Leap of Faith. Two men dueling over a woman, who do I let live: her lover Dalz or her father Behron? Well, I thought I solved their dilemma...



...I didn't get the quest reward :/

Sakan

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mo/

Where/who gave the heir quest?

I thought I'd done them all (except for the one in the bog about rescuing the pissheads, I think that was glitched).

It's entirely possible that I did it and just didn't read anything. I was at a lan and frequently distracted by crazy antics. (Probably laughing at yet ANOTHER person zoning into the digs before the scholar turned up)

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

The series of heir quests were given just west of Kodlonu Hamlet. You had to wait for the funeral to play out first.

Sakan

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mo/

Ah, that'd be why. I stopped, looked around, and then went right on with what I was doing.

I'll have to take more time to look around when it retails.

King's Spectre

King's Spectre

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Syracuse, NY, USA

The Amazon Basin (AB)

W/

Heheh it's a good bet that whenever you see random NPC talking going one that there's a quest in there somewhere. *keeps watching the magic show in Kaineng City*

I like the split quests too. BTW, was there a way to win the trial one or do you simply choose the manner of your loosing?

RoadKill97

RoadKill97

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Legion of Zeal [Zeal]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Savio
One quest I liked was A Leap of Faith. Two men dueling over a woman, who do I let live: her lover Dalz or her father Behron? LOL, Dalz was the father, not Behron.

When I was doing the quest, and they turned into hostile, the heroes and henchmen (8 man party) killed Behron in less than 2 seconds. I was "WTH just happened?" and then took reward from Dalz. I'll take some distance next time.

Xx Invictus xX

Xx Invictus xX

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

MLV

W/

I read somewhere that you can choose certain paths and based on your decisions, you will aquire certain heros & not others. So if you get one hero another may not become available for you to get.

SnipiousMax

SnipiousMax

Perfectly Elocuted

Join Date: Sep 2005

^ No one I've talked to has won the trial.

Etrik

Etrik

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Romania

None atm

Mo/

You should have killed her lover, since she anyways swore to protect her father over her lover.

If you had killed her father she would be mad at you and she wouldn't talk to her lover anyways. I killed the lover. Evurl me.

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

I didn't even come close with the trial.

Some hints though perhaps for a bit later:
1) Don't call the Dervish. Since we don't have to call all the witnesses she is one of the ones you don't want to call.
2) Be careful of what you say. Saying too much in you testimony is a big no. Saying too little is ALSO a big no.
3) Koss didn't seem to do too bad when he talked, in fact I think he swung things my way.
3) Tal, well I think calling her is what triggers the end of the trial, so you have to call her at some stage, maybe the sooner the better...

DynaBlue

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

California

SBT

W/N

Koss was a blowhard and his testimony was weak. Hurt my score as the first witness.

I called Dunkoro next and he helped the score with a reasonable argument.

I can't recall who I called next, maybe Ironfist. Final score was like 10-16 against me but once Tal brought in Kormir I still got the quest completed with the reward promised.

My wife tried calling Tal first off but she wasn't available, something about going to get Kormir.

DynaBlue

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

California

SBT

W/N

I forgot..an interesting thing that I noticed with the Heir quest.

My wife and I were doing the quest together. Both of us chose a different heir (I took 1st born, she took 3rd born, IIRC) and they both accompanied us on the quest to First City (bickering between themselves the whole time) and both of us got the quest reward for our respective heir. I believe it would be possible to have all three heirs along for the quest.

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

Interesting observation, Dyna, will keep this in mind

Commander Ryker

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Savio
The series of heir quests were given just west of Kodlonu Hamlet. You had to wait for the funeral to play out first. I saw the funeral, stopped and did /bowhead out of respect (yes, I know they are not real, some things are just ingrained). The funny thing was, the henchies and heroes stood around me in a circle and bowed their heads too! Only they were impatient as they keept looking up at me and then go back to bowing their heads.

gamecube187

gamecube187

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander Ryker
I saw the funeral, stopped and did /bowhead out of respect (yes, I know they are not real, some things are just ingrained). The funny thing was, the henchies and heroes stood around me in a circle and bowed their heads too! Only they were impatient as they keept looking up at me and then go back to bowing their heads. That was an update for the event that made henchies do whatever you did. If you did /dance, then they would dance with you or play an instument. If you did /jump, then they would jump with you. Same with the other emotes.

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

I took the treasure quest, I think the youngest son had it.

I was teleported to Fahranur to get the treasure.

How about the other two quests, what were they?

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

Once you made the decision all three had to do the same quest, to fetch the gold.

Myster Grim

Myster Grim

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

GMT -5

Band of the H A W K

I took the yongest and saw him later just east of where we got that quest. He had two pirates with him all non hostile and he said i think " Just wait till i get a ship then I will take over a land and name it for my self, if you come there I might reward you if have enough gold" should of took a screen shot huh.

King's Spectre

King's Spectre

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Syracuse, NY, USA

The Amazon Basin (AB)

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander Ryker
I saw the funeral, stopped and did /bowhead out of respect (yes, I know they are not real, some things are just ingrained). The funny thing was, the henchies and heroes stood around me in a circle and bowed their heads too! Only they were impatient as they keept looking up at me and then go back to bowing their heads. LOL I did that too. You already have to do /emote for some missions so you never know..

Commander Ryker

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by gamecube187
That was an update for the event that made henchies do whatever you did. If you did /dance, then they would dance with you or play an instument. If you did /jump, then they would jump with you. Same with the other emotes. Yeah, I know. It was still funny tho.