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Black Ops Ranger

Black Ops Ranger

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

South Carolina

Heroes of Thermopylae

R/Mo

I love playing Rangers
I love playing in Randoms

All my previous attempts to mix the two have ended up with an ally using res sig calling me a noob.

Can someone help me?

I like Barrage but also have Poisen Arrow and Oath Shot for my elites

Offer any Random Arena Builds you can think of

PS: No Touchers or Bunny Thumpers, I want to play like a Ranger (Ranging or Trapping)

P!zz@

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Try my beastmaster/poison build:

Ferocious Strike
Brutal Strike
Call of Haste
Apply Poison
Troll Unguent/Whirling Defense/Predatory Bond (I usually take Whirling, but thats up to you)
Comfort Animal
Charm Animal
Res Signet

I find that its a pretty solid Pressure build.

Munanko Roha

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

KoH

W/E

In RA you're gonna find loads of Warriors.

Cripshot is your best friend, add Apply Poison, Troll Unguent, Distracting Shot, Hunter Shot to add pressure, Whirling Defence or Throw Dirt, obviously a Rez Sig and a utility slot, could be Blackout, a kind of Trap or what you feel comfortable with...and you got the classic Cripshot Ranger, one of the best builds ever seen!

Stranger The Ranger

Stranger The Ranger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Those Netherlands

Dynasty Warriors [DW]

R/

Broad Head Arrow is a great skill for RA after it got buffed, won a couple of glad points with this build:

Marks:12
Exper: 14
WS: 10

Bread Head Arrow[E]
Savage Shot
Distracting Shot/Needling Shot
Apply Poison
Pin Down
Troll Unguent
Whirling Defence
Res Signet

Just Daze your target, but beware with BHA's arc. Use the interrupt shots to hit your target fast.
Take Pin Down so you'll also do some dmg to Touchers/Warriors

SnipiousMax

SnipiousMax

Perfectly Elocuted

Join Date: Sep 2005

^Don't bother with Broad Head Arrow... take Crippling Shot or Poison Arrow.

There are two things you need to beat in RA. The team that wins the most battles in RA is the team that has both a monk, and a warrior with an elite offensive skill. So build to break the monk, and annoy the warrior.

Daze is an underpowered condition, it really isn't worth the price or trouble of getting it applied. Rather you should focus on spreading as many conditions as possible to as many on the opposing team as possible. The will get removed, purged, Plauge touched, etc, but that's not the point. The point is that they have to address the conditions or they will get rolled. Personally, my favorite combo is Crippling Shot with Apply Poison. Add hunter's shot and you have three conditions that you can easily apply to the other team. Apply rather than Poison Arrow because you can spread it, and keep it on all four people. Throw dirt is also great to annoy warriors and it's another condition. Bring at least one interrupt, and an evasion stance. Troll ungent is meh in my book, but you're milage may vary.

In short, break the monk with conditions, annoy the warrior.

Stranger The Ranger

Stranger The Ranger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Those Netherlands

Dynasty Warriors [DW]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by SnipiousMax
^Don't bother with Broad Head Arrow... take Crippling Shot or Poison Arrow.
Yeah, but I was getting really, really tired of those E/Mo Flashbots, I decided to take BHA for a little revenge
The build turned out pretty nice, and like I said, I won some glad points with it by shutting down most casters(most Monk just CoP it off ;<).
However, for TA, Cripshot > BHA all the way

holden

holden

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

[NICE]

Mo/

melandru's arrow
dual shot
peneatrating attack
distracting shot
troll unguent
whirling D
dodge
res


take advantage of all the enchantments running around....ele's, monks, wammos

XvArchonvX

XvArchonvX

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

Just a tip, never take Barrage into RA. The elite I have had the best success with in RA is Escape {E}. Since if is a form of PvP in which you cannot rely on having a monk to heal/protect you, having a strong defense is very important. Use Apply Poison and Hunter's Shot to be able to lay down some degen then avoid damage. Also never leave home without at least one interupt if you are running a bow based build. I generally run this build:

Hunter's Shot
Savage Shot
Apply Poison
Barbed Trap or Pin Down
Throw Dirt
Escape {E}
Troll Unguent
Rez Sig

SnipiousMax

SnipiousMax

Perfectly Elocuted

Join Date: Sep 2005

Another thought....

High pressure damage builds (ie... Thumpers) leave alot of amatuer monks flat on their butt (oftentimes literally). Either an Enraged Lunge thumper build or a Ferocious Strike Thumper build work well enough in RA. So long as you don't go head to head with the bonehead spamming Riposte and Glads defense. <sigh> There is a thread in the Team Arena Builds section that talks about common TA builds (it's near the top) and any of those ranger builds will work fine.

You do however have to realize, that no matter how brilliant and infalible your build is... your success is dependant on three other randomly added sorted and assigned people. It can be incredibly frustrating to find yourself in a group that has 1.) No monk. or 2.) No damage output. You can squeak by without a Mesmer or Ele in RA... but unfortunately, you will get nowhere fast if your only warrior is spamming Defy Pain and Healing Breeze.

lennymon

lennymon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

personally I feel thumpers are great in ra, and I like to load wild blow if I can

XvArchonvX

XvArchonvX

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

Another suggestion to try if you want something different is a dagger based ranger build such as the following:

Jagged Strike
Wild Strike
Horns of the Ox
Falling Spider
Lightning Reflexes
Escape {E}
Troll Unguent or Shadows Refuge
Rez Sig

lennymon

lennymon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

ooh, yeah... another thingy to play around with that I've not done much of with my ranger: r/a thanks man

Forsaken Druid

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

In a undisclosed location

Legends in Blood

Me/E

Heres a build that works well in RA

Fav Winds ( very useful for high dmg)
Crip Shot
Hunters Shot
Apply Poison
Throw Dirt
Res Sig
Troll
Savage Shot

dgb

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stranger The Ranger
Yeah, but I was getting really, really tired of those E/Mo Flashbots, I decided to take BHA for a little revenge
The build turned out pretty nice, and like I said, I won some glad points with it by shutting down most casters(most Monk just CoP it off ;<).
However, for TA, Cripshot > BHA all the way Distracting Shot beats flashbot, 95% of flashbots are hopelessly predicitable, just count 4s then interupt it.

Sir Mad

Sir Mad

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Moe's Pub

Pigs Can Fly [Pigs]

R/

Very true.

Basically in RA if you're not a monk be as offensive as you can. Rangers are lucky enough to have expertise skills to keep them alive. 2 of them should do the job. IF you have a WS build, bring troll (a 10 arrows regen is more than welcome), otherwise i'd say forget it: 3 secs to cast for what? a 4 arrows regen is not worth it IMO. For the other skills, it depends on your mood, but make sure you deals a lot of damage. Punshot, cripshot (to screw the warrior), poison arrow + kindle or even ignite, are your best friends. Bring a preparation: apply poison or read the wind (for marks builds) or kindle (for WS builds). Spirits are not needed IMO: they're good only if you're in a spefic build, generally with other rangers - RA is too... randomish for that. Make sure as well you can SPAM your skills - after all that's what rangers are good at (which means: check the recharge time of your skills).

And for the "noob" part of your story: just mute the all chat.

MelechRic

MelechRic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

RA

[ODIN]

N/Mo

I've recently gone back to RA with my ranger for a bit of fun. Here are two builds that have gotten me a gladiator point:

Classic Choking Gas Ranger/Warrior:
Practiced Stance {E}
Choking Gas
Savage Shot / Debilitating Shot / Distracting Shot
Flurry
Throw Dirt
Whirling Defense
Rez Signet

Zealous Short Bow, Druid's Armor
14 WS
13 Exp
Rest in Marksmanship

Helps to have a monk on your team, but you can roll through casting based teams with this. When running this I've gotten quite a few "I hate you" and "FU and your choking gas" comments. No caster can withstand this build. The only thing that will stop it is heavy pressure from a warrior or assassin.

Another build I've run that's netted me a gladiator point is this one:

Read the Wind
Crippling Shot {E}
Marauder's Shot
Hunter's Shot
Savage Shot
Whirling Defense
Troll Unguent
Rez Signet

16 Marks
13 Exp
4 WS

+5 energy recurve bow with a crippling string. Grip is optional. I've been using a +1 Marks 20% grip because I had it sitting in storage. 30hp would probably be better. Maybe a +5 armor grip... Use whatever you like.

This build is great for removing pressure from your caster team members. If you're fortunate to have a monk then they will appreciate all the limping warriors/sins chasing them. Be sure to manage your energy well since spamming CS will deplete you quickly. I also use this build to cripple fleeing casters. Sins appreciate this because some of their skills trigger on the target having a condition.

Ismoke

Ismoke

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Fullerton, Ca.

CDXX/THE420TH.COM

Mo/Me

try this !

16 MARKS
15 EXPERTISE
7 WS

1.HUNTERS
2.DISTRACTING
3.SAVAGE
4. PUNISHING
5.RTW
6.LIGTHING REFLEXS/WHIRLING
7.TROLL
8.REZ

Interupt everything! Fun and brutal>>>>>!

Sir Mad

Sir Mad

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Moe's Pub

Pigs Can Fly [Pigs]

R/

Do not try this: I doubt you have a long life expectancy in RA with 3 sup runes :roll:

Also remember you can't r-spike alone...

Munanko Roha

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

KoH

W/E

Maybe I'm wrong but to achieve that point distribution you would need 2 Superior Runes and 1 Godly Rune (+4/-100), 3 superior wouldn't be enough!

I Brother Bloood I

I Brother Bloood I

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2006

Good question

12 Dagger Mastery
14 Beast Mastery 10+3+1
9 Expertise 8+1<- Not Sure

Tigers Fury/Bestial Fury
Desperate Strike/Disrupting Stab
Fox Fangs
Repeating Strike
Ferocious Strike [E]
Comfort Animal
Charm Animal
Ressurection Signet

Daggers - Zealous Daggers Of Dagger Mastery
Green Daggers - Ungues Of The Oni

Shadow Wolf

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2006

I usually go into RA with this simple interrupt/spike build.

16 Marksmanship
10 Wilderness Survival
10 Expertise

1. Whirling Defense
2. Distracting Shot
3. Savage Shot
4. Punishing Shot
5. Dual Shot
6. Read the Wind/Kindle Arrow
7. Troll Unguent
8. Resurrection Signet

This build usually works great on all professions except warriors because of their thick armor and monks that have quick 1/4 second heals. Other than those two, you can easily interrupt most professions (most noticeably the long casting ritualists) while doing decent damage at the same time.

A great weapon to have is a Recurve Bow to minimize the arc size of your arrows for interrupts, especially when you plan on using Kindle Arrow instead of Read the Wind. A full set of Druid's Armor is also recommended for the extra energy.

Poison Ivy

Poison Ivy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Toronto

Hopping

Mo/A

Here's a nice build you might enjoy, it can normally earn me a glad point every time I go in with it, unless if I e7.

Pin Down
Poison Arrow [E]
Distracting Shot
Ignite Arrows
Barbed Trap
Troll Ungent
Whirling Defence
Ressurection Signet

It's a simple build really, Pin Down for those Wars, spam Barbed in choak points or near your casters for easier and better kiting, don't forget the bleeding bonus + poison arrow = 7 degen.

Distracting for interupting key spells or Rez Sigs, Ignite Arrows for extra and splash damage, and Troll Ungent for healing.

Use Whirling Defence if your Pin Down is recharging and your traps are spent while a Warrior is whacking away at you.

Ressurect you allies ASAP.

Sir Mad

Sir Mad

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Moe's Pub

Pigs Can Fly [Pigs]

R/

^ I'd add dual shot to this build, instead of barbed trap (or instead of pin down and snare instead of barbed). But yeah I like this kind of build too.

EDIT - Oh and I prefer Kindle: ignite adds fire damage while kindle converts your attack to fire (and adds some more damage): that's more efficient against warriors. That's not good against other rangers, but anyway rangers are always a pain for rangers

o1000mph1

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

LZ

R/Me

Try this:

Punishing Shot
Savage Shot
Distracting Shot
Sundering Attack
Penetrating Attack
Favorable Winds
Troll Unguent
Whirling Defense

Equipt a 20/20 AP 15^50 Recurve bow and you wil be owning. Good luck

Sir Mad

Sir Mad

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Moe's Pub

Pigs Can Fly [Pigs]

R/

No rez sig?

Also, read the wind over favorable wind IMO.

dGe

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2006

France

R/

The build I use in RA :

Crippling Shot
Apply poison
Savage Shot
Distracting Shot
Troll Unguent
Debilitating Shot
Distortion
Rez Sig

13 Marksmanship
10 Wildness Survival
11 Expertise
3 Illusion magic
(I'm not sure about skillpoints)

Rite

Rite

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Switzerland

R/Me

Build I use for TA (I don't see why it wouldn't work for RA. I usually only RA when testing stuff):

Poison Arrow {E}
Troll Unguent
Kindle Arrows/Seeking Arrows
Throw Dirt
Whirling Defence
Savage Shot
Distracting Shot
Ressurection Signet

11 + 1 marksmanship, 10 + 1 Wilderness Survival, 10 + 1 Expertise

I don't like sup and maj runes. I actually prefer seeking than kindle arrows for this kind of match. All you need to do is run around spreading poison and then focus on one person (could be anyone) and interrupt them till they die (since your maskmanship isn't bad). Throw dirt + Whirling defence is handy vs warriors and assassins and on the rare occassions another ranger picks you as their target. there's no anti-hex tho, so watch out for mesmers and necros. Remember to spread poison around periodically, or all the time when facing a monk with something against conditions.

BohemianKeith

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Here's a nice build you might enjoy, it can normally earn me a glad point every time I go in with it, unless if I e7.

Pin Down
Poison Arrow [E]
Distracting Shot
Ignite Arrows
Barbed Trap
Troll Ungent
Whirling Defence
Ressurection Signet

It's a simple build really, Pin Down for those Wars, spam Barbed in choak points or near your casters for easier and better kiting, don't forget the bleeding bonus + poison arrow = 7 degen.

Distracting for interupting key spells or Rez Sigs, Ignite Arrows for extra and splash damage, and Troll Ungent for healing.

Use Whirling Defence if your Pin Down is recharging and your traps are spent while a Warrior is whacking away at you.

Ressurect you allies ASAP. Works like a wonder, my exact and i mean exact build that i've been using forever to gain some faction. Poison arrow is great because you can use it in conjunction with a preparation. Also barbed trap is awesome in this build because you get to watch those wars you just hit with pin down slowly walk off there cripple and charge you only to hit the trap you just layed at your feet .

Oh yeah this is a build i like to use, it's MY BUILD i dont care if someone else has posted this somewhere because i have been using it ever since they gave pets a boost.

MyCharacter

Ranger/Necromancer
Level: 20

Expertise: 11 (9+2)
Beast Mastery: 16 (12+4)
Blood Magic: 9

- Vampiric Touch (Blood Magic)
Touch target foe to steal up to 56 Health.
Energy:8.4 Cast:0.75 Recharge:2

- Brutal Strike (Beast Mastery)
Your animal companion attempts a Brutal Strike that deals +37 damage. If that attack strikes a foe whose Health is below 50%, that foe takes an additional +37 damage.
Energy:10 Cast:0 Recharge:5

- Melandru's Assault (Beast Mastery)
Your animal companion attempts a Melandru's Assault that deals +37 damage. If that attack strikes a foe with an Enchantment, that foe and all adjacent foes take +21 additional damage.
Energy:10 Cast:0 Recharge:5

- Ferocious Strike [Elite] (Beast Mastery)
Your animal companion attempts a ferocious strike that deals +29 damage. If that attack hits, you gain adrenaline and 10 Energy.
Energy:5 Cast:0 Recharge:8

- Call of Haste (Beast Mastery)
For 30 seconds, your animal companions have a 25% faster attack speed and move 25%.
Energy:5.6 Cast:0 Recharge:25

- Comfort Animal (Beast Mastery)
You heal your animal companion for 110 points. If your companion is dead, it is resurrected with 61% Health.
Energy:5.6 Cast:1 Recharge:1

- Charm Animal (Beast Mastery)
Charm target animal. Once charmed, your animal companion will travel with you whenever you have Charm Animal equipped.
Energy:5.6 Cast:10 Recharge:0

- Resurrection Signet ()
Resurrect target party member. That party member is returned to life with 100% Health and 25% Energy. You may use this Signet only once per mission.
Energy:0 Cast:3 Recharge:0


You can do a nice hunk of dmg with that, switch out a skill for blood renewal or get rid of res sig for Ab battles and bring it. In RA this build absolutely slaughters w/mo's i've took 2 on at the same time and wiped them easy. Once you get the timing down you can hit melandru's assault at the same time as vamp touch and do a nice hunk of scary dmg especially against enchanted foes then follow it up with brutal and vamp touch, inexperienced monks seldom catch the dmg and ele's get absolutely nailed.