characters not deleted?

SilintNinjya

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

At my desk

E/

i still have my dervish on my character select screen...will i be able to use it again when the game comes out (and i buy it)?

Xenex Xclame

Xenex Xclame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

DPX

R/

Yes , your characters will not be deleted, they never said that ,they will get reset to lvl 1 , all items gained gone, and money 0.

The titles you earned will also be reset the 3 things that remain are

Your character ,Which class they are which skin you choose which height etc.
Naked i believe,for if they want to change how the armor looks they woudnt want to give away before game releases.

The name will be saved.

All skills you unlocked will remain unlocked,So that means your pvp character can use them, of course not the dervish or paragon skills cause you have to be a dervish or paragon in order to use those skills,but when game releases your heros can already use those skills even tho you havent learned it yet.

zaza

zaza

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Tiger Tail

N/R

Dang i thought I was going to start nightfall with a lvl 11 dervish o well...

Quid Pro Quo

Quid Pro Quo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

I still have my blood red and black dyed armor and hes still level 13.

Ashe_Lienn

Ashe_Lienn

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

England

Gummiberry Juice

N/Me

For now Who knows what October 27th will bring :P

Jeff Highwind

Jeff Highwind

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Grenth's Rejects [GR]

R/Mo

Aww, I was hoping to keep the 3 plat my Nuker has.

Quid Pro Quo

Quid Pro Quo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Well I hope they don't let us keep inventory items but it would be nice if they let us keep what we were wearing and level and just reset our location, money, quests, titles and anything not equipted. What could that hurt?

SilintNinjya

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

At my desk

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quid Pro Quo
Well I hope they don't let us keep inventory items but it would be nice if they let us keep what we were wearing and level and just reset our location, money, quests, titles and anything not equipted. What could that hurt?
it would mean you would hit 20 early. wont happen.

Lord Palidore

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Yes, It's basically the same thing they did with Factions.

After Nightfall comes out, you will have two weeks or so to add a Nightfall key. Once the two weeks are up, and no Nightfall key is added, then the characters are deleted.

Once you do add the key anyways, basically everything on that character will be gone except the name.

Not really as big of a deal as people make it anyways. Most people were here during the Factions preview weekend, and should know how it works. Even so, you also need to remember that any progress we did make on those accounts only took two days to complete in the first place, so really shouldn't be a big loss.

Quid Pro Quo

Quid Pro Quo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by SilintNinjya
it would mean you would hit 20 early. wont happen.
Whats wrong with that? People can hit 20 in a day. Saw it during the preview.

If the game had a level cap of 50 or somesuch I could see it being a problem but thats not really an issue with guild wars.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Palidore
Not really as big of a deal as people make it anyways. Most people were here during the Factions preview weekend, and should know how it works. Even so, you also need to remember that any progress we did make on those accounts only took two days to complete in the first place, so really shouldn't be a big loss.
But its not the factions preview. Didn't you start out as level 20 in the factions preview and weren't you aloud to go much farther in the game? I wasn't there but thats what I heard. They also had a big celebration at the end. None of which has happened.

If I'm wrong, please correct me.

Stockholm

Stockholm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Censored

Censored

R/

Factions preview took place in the Kurzik area, with lvl 20 monsters. This time the "pre area" was big enough to explore so they could have the preview there, if the had had the Factions preview at Shing-jeia Island I doubt the would have sold more than 50 thousand copys of factions.

Kyrashti Dv

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Rt/A

I created a Elonian PVP necro, but used all prophecies skills etc. I can still use that character. I picked the face with the gouged out eye, and have been playing with him in RA even after the event finished. But yeah my dervish is still there but i think ill delete him anyway.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenex Xclame
Yes , your characters will not be deleted, they never said that ,they will get reset to lvl 1 , all items gained gone, and money 0.

The titles you earned will also be reset the 3 things that remain are

Your character ,Which class they are which skin you choose which height etc.
Naked i believe,for if they want to change how the armor looks they woudnt want to give away before game releases.

The name will be saved.

All skills you unlocked will remain unlocked,So that means your pvp character can use them, of course not the dervish or paragon skills cause you have to be a dervish or paragon in order to use those skills,but when game releases your heros can already use those skills even tho you havent learned it yet.
Actually they DID "Ever say that" >_> They used the phrase "will be removed from participating accounts"

But of course that has changed.

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

Well if you look at the game updates page they say they will be reset not removed. I just assumed that when they say "participating accounts" they meant the limited event accounts and not actual game accounts.

nkari

nkari

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Haha... I *hope* I can keep everything. I still have a 20/20 sword hilt on my character in his inventory.

Angel Netherborn

Angel Netherborn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Lower Ward, Sigil

Goda Vos

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quid Pro Quo
Whats wrong with that? People can hit 20 in a day. Saw it during the preview.
Yes, but that's the incredible minority that you saw. It'd be a bit unfair to others if some changes further along makes things different.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quid Pro Quo
But its not the factions preview. Didn't you start out as level 20 in the factions preview and weren't you aloud to go much farther in the game? I wasn't there but thats what I heard. They also had a big celebration at the end. None of which has happened.
Yes, level 20, and with some end-event killings. That was the Factions preview. Who said Nightfall preview had to be the conducted in the same way? You actually just started off in the middle of the story, not "allowed" to go further.

Quid Pro Quo

Quid Pro Quo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Angel Netherborn
Yes, but that's the incredible minority that you saw. It'd be a bit unfair to others if some changes further along makes things different.
Actually by sunday level 18, 19 and 20 were becoming quite common. Thats only 3 days.

Its an instanced game its not like someone being higher level is going to mess with your game but it rewards them for putting in work during the weekend. Sure Anet doesn't need to do that since we all knew they planned to delete the characters but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be nice if they did.

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Who said Nightfall preview had to be the conducted in the same way?
Thats exactly my point. He was saying that people who played the factions even should know how it works. This isn't the factions preview everything including not resetting the character completely could be different.

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

Your characters will be reset. You will keep: PvP unlocks, character appearance and name. For many players, retaining their name is siginificant and is enough to keep a PvP toon rolled with the same name or to simply leave their Dervish/Paragon idling until they add Nightfall.

LumpOfCole

LumpOfCole

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Orlando, FL

Rt/

I like my Paragon character appearance except I think I made her too tall now that I think about it. I'm not going to delete her though, just in case my Gray Giant doesn't carry over if I delete her. Just in case, I want to shove it in storage

SilintNinjya

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

At my desk

E/

meh, doesnt matter...i killed my dervish and my Rt (who was on factions) and in turn made a warrior and another Rt and plan on making a dervis and paragon when nightfall comes out. then much later, a monk!

Angel Netherborn

Angel Netherborn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Lower Ward, Sigil

Goda Vos

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quid Pro Quo
Its an instanced game its not like someone being higher level is going to mess with your game but it rewards them for putting in work during the weekend. Sure Anet doesn't need to do that since we all knew they planned to delete the characters but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be nice if they did.
Well, true that it doesn't mess up anyone else's game but I'm also thinking more along the lines of what if Anet made some changes that would've significantly modified the way the preview character had progressed? Should Anet handle the revert or just leave them as they are? What if they tweaked the rewards?

Also, considering the potentially huge number of accounts, they'd have to sift through which characters on which type of accounts should be kept or reset. Sure, it's probably just database management but it's still a bit of additional work to maintain different accounts differently. Work that can easily be avoided by simply resetting all characters created in Elona. Makes item changes easier as well.

Not to say I would've minded if they decided to let me keep my several plats though

Quid Pro Quo

Quid Pro Quo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Angel Netherborn
Not to say I would've minded if they decided to let me keep my several plats though
I think your misunderstanding me.

I said the only thing that should stay the same is the ammount of xp gained and the items you have equipted. I think you should still have to do all the quests again and gain back your titles.

That means no money, no dyes, no anything that could effect the released game later on besides armor, weapons and level.

Nalee Everborn

Nalee Everborn

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Canada, eh?

Filbuster Four

Me/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Palidore
Yes, It's basically the same thing they did with Factions.

After Nightfall comes out, you will have two weeks or so to add a Nightfall key. Once the two weeks are up, and no Nightfall key is added, then the characters are deleted.

Once you do add the key anyways, basically everything on that character will be gone except the name.

Not really as big of a deal as people make it anyways. Most people were here during the Factions preview weekend, and should know how it works. Even so, you also need to remember that any progress we did make on those accounts only took two days to complete in the first place, so really shouldn't be a big loss.
Not true. I had my Factions preview character up until the Nightfall event started. Never deleted until I decided to delete it to make room.

Besides, that seems a tad unfair. If they really expect people to want the game, they'd have to accomodate for the fact that it takes awhile to ship, stores might be sold out, and it is close to Chistmas (which is when I'll be getting mine).

I like the fact that the characters are getting reset. Makes things alot more easier and less hectic on the Guild Wars people. It was a beta version after all, people. And a game. Just redo the stuff over. It's not that hard. :P

Lord Palidore

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quid Pro Quo
But its not the factions preview. Didn't you start out as level 20 in the factions preview and weren't you aloud to go much farther in the game? I wasn't there but thats what I heard. They also had a big celebration at the end. None of which has happened.

If I'm wrong, please correct me.
You did start later in the game in Factions, correct, but that's because the story wasn't at all spoiled that far into the game.

Clearly with Elona, you can imagine from what we saw during the preview, going any farther into the story would spoil it.

As for the end preview event, though it is a shame that they break a shortlived tradition, it's honestly not a big loss to miss out on it this time around.

All that happens, is for the last hour during the preview event, for Prophecies, Gwen spawned in the towns and outpost and burnt everyone to death, and you couldn't fight back or anything.
Same thing with the Factions end event, except Kuunavang and some of Shiro's baddies spawned and killed us.

Again, although tradition, and a fun little thing to have, it doesn't matter as much in the long run. This time around, half of Anet's team is tweaking Nightfall to make it more enjoyable to us, and the other half is working on Chapter 4.

So as long as they are trading off the 1 hour long killing spree for time to make the game more enjoyable and to live up to expectation post release, then I have no problems with it.

As for having "much more" to do/explore in the Factions preview, it's not really true. We we're allowed to do ABs and FA/JQ, and a couple missions.

In my opinion, Nightfall's preview event had more to offer. We got the opportunity to try out the heroes, 3 different missions, a ton of quest, etc.
Although at the first glance Factions preview may have seemed bigger, this one honestly left me with a more full and satisfied feeling post completion.

Riotact

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Australia

Elite Renegades

W/Mo

No, they have to reset it and u have to lose everything, only coz i read that on the guild wars website and didnt want to find something really cool and lose it or have to do it all again, so i gave all my stuff away and stopped playing nightfall.

Solar_Takfar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

well, I did manage to find a good half-dozen superior and some major runes (most of which I didn't have before, including runes pertaining to dervish and para), thus unlocking a lot of PvP stuff during the event. The money I had when the event was about to end, I spent on buying skills, which in turn unlocked more derv/para skills. All in all, it was not wasted time.

FalconDance

FalconDance

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

...deep within the sylvan splendor...

Order of the Migrating Coconuts [ALBA]

Doesn't matter for me if they're reset or not. I already deleted my character on the main acct and the others on a dummy acct set up for Preview events only.

Besides, it is so unlikely that the names I choose would be duplicates of someone else, I don't worry. Lili has the most "common" .

JoeKnowMo

JoeKnowMo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Wessst Siiide, USA

Mo/

I gave away all my stuff including a few plat, heroes weapons, collector items, crafting materials, etc. around 10 pm as I had already unlocked all the paragon, dervish, war, and monk skills. Needless to say, I'd be mildly bummed if it turns out that I could have kept that stuff.

einexile

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2006

The Goon Squad

N/R

The level & item reset is smart. (I do wish I could keep my dye job. It would be noob armor so it's not that unfair a perk.) The fact that people got to level 20 in a day during the preview doesn't necessarily mean it will happen again.

This weekend there was a lot of enthusiasm and hurry to see & do as much as possible before the preview ended. The fact that this pressure won't be present once the game comes out, coupled with the fact that repeating content can be a chore, means you've got 10 or 20 hours of progress ahead of you which can either be dull or fun depending on how you approach it.

I think a lot of us played with just heroes and henches this weekend, knowing that teaming with other players takes longer owing to disconnects, incompetence, drama, and just plain old waiting. Having done this myself, when the game is released I think I'll play through the island with pickup groups.

I doubt I'm alone. Anyone else?

DJJD2006

DJJD2006

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

[CASH]

R/Mo

I hope the characters are deleted, I mean I love my paragon, but if they arent resert there will be 12000 Dervish 10000 Paragon, 1 monk, 1 ele, 1 ranger, 1 assasin, 1 ritualist, 1 mesmer, 1 Necro and a few warriors in the Whole game!

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

^ It's already a fact that they will be reset; they wont be deleted

Quid Pro Quo

Quid Pro Quo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeKnowMo
I gave away all my stuff including a few plat, heroes weapons, collector items, crafting materials, etc. around 10 pm as I had already unlocked all the paragon, dervish, war, and monk skills. Needless to say, I'd be mildly bummed if it turns out that I could have kept that stuff.
Theres no way they'd do that nor should they but would you be upset if they let you keep XP and armor but had everything else reset?

That would mean you wouldn't have been able to keep any of your stuff anyway but people would still be rewarded for getting some leveling in during the weekend.

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

Too bad that i played the Nightfall preview event on a non-functional account.

Guess i have to start from level 1 after all.

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Skullcrasher
Too bad that i played the Nightfall preview event on a non-functional account.

Guess i have to start from level 1 after all.
Everyone's starting from lvl 1. Though they wont be deleted; the characters are reset to lvl 1 with starter gear.

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

I deleted my Dervish to get my PvP slot bak for AB but I will just probably play with my Core Char.s anyway.The Dervish isn't bad to play.