POLL: Is Deadly Arts more useful now?

Vote "Yes" or "No."

Personally I'm still having an incredibly hard time using it and still hoping to stay alive for even a few seconds. Hence at the moment, I'm sticking with Shadow Arts *again*

I still find Deadly arts next to useless, they really need to buff it out if they want anyone to use it.

No. Deadly arts do not override the usefulness, even with the extra layer of cuteness, of dagger/crits. . . And you know how hungry those combos get.

Did you saw my build?
Deadly arts can be very good and deadly,that is all I need to say....and Yes is answer

It'll take some seriously energy management skill to be able to make Deadly Arts any useful at all, and of course, that would probably come from the Deadly Arts sin's secondary, mesmer maybe?

Still, with the release of the new Deadly Arts skills, i can see some potential in Deadly Arts. Just as long as they don't give too much of a bad nerf.

Yes.

Read this thread
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10050164

Deadly Paradox is one of the key skill in the build

Deadly arts has always been useful. Siphon speed can act as a fast rechanging anti kiter hex, Scorpion wire is also an good anti kiter skill with an added Knock down. Way of the empty palm can go great with exposes defences and repeated strike for fast, cheap, never miss damage. Expunge enchantments, being a skill (rather than a spell) is an effective way to combat monks. Impale can add a good amount of damage to a duel attack.

There you have it, some rather good uses for Deadly arts.

I'm not saying that there aren't some good skills in the line, I'm asking if it is PRACTICAL. (As in, provides decent damage, energy management, and survivability)

I'll be sure to check out the above builds. Thanks for posting them!

I think most people find deadly arts less useful than shadow arts is because the fact that the shadow line offers more direct survival skills like dark escape, return, srefuge, etc as opposed to the hexes in deadly.

While I would like to try some deadly arts skills, my attributes would spread too thin into critical, dagger, deadly and shadow (for that needed survival).

No!


Why?Because there is no weapon for deadly arts, and the self-healing skills are only in Shadow Arts.

So, you must use your attribute points on Dagger Mastery and Critical Strike attributes. Then, you need self-healing skill and some teleport skill, it means you also have to spend your points on Shadow Arts.

As you see, you already spent your points on three attribute. It is hard to invest the 4th attribute which is deadly arts.

Well, I m gonna try that Way of the empty palm, expose defences and repeated strike build, sounds good.

yep its useful deadly paradox + sig of toxic shock = ^^

Deadly Arts sucks. Its only decent skill is Siphon Speed (maybe A-Promise), other than that you need too many slots for a combo.

Eh, I don't use it very much, I stick to a high dagger mastery/shadow arts and medium critical strikes in my attributes.

Would be nice to pop Signet of Shadows and Signet of Toxic Shock into the same build That would do awesome damage.

Deadly Arts will be a fairly attractive attribute with Nightfall. The buffs to Siphon Speed alone already make it a lot better than it previously was.

I normally use a build of quick rechargin combo with way of the empty palm, whcih means skills cost nothing( offhand and dual) and i can keep using

I never use deadly arts and find it a waste of slots when I use daggers. I personally think that the Critical Barrage build ive started using does much more damage.

I dont use dark arts, i could see them used by necros and mesmer mains but as a sin primary you get critical strikes and all the amazing skills that it comes with.

Not for assassins, maybe for /assassin players though (in the way that Expunge Enchantments is used).

I would say yes a little bit, a couple weeks ago after the update I was messing
around and came up with this fun build, I am at work and cannot
remember it all but is an hammer Assassin with 3 KD's, bleeding, poisoned,
and weakened.

jagged strike, iron palm, dancing daggers, entangling asp, devastating
hammer, then whatever three skills you want, and start hammering away..

An ever resounding yes, in pvp, a possible yes, but never no...

Reason? Criticals seem to be affected by armor levels. Wild blow a 60 AL dummy in IoN and then a 100AL. Critting a warrior type in PvE also results in damages of up to a whopping 33!!

In PvE, since AI = Artificial Incompetence, the deadly arts moving punish skill: Enduring Toxin, combined with Soul Barbs, makes for an easy killing kite build.

In PvP, DA gets its kicks from one term: undodgable. A large amount of the DA skills simply don't allow you to dodge and your effect is guarunteed. The enemy can't avoid your attacks, they can only hope to remove their effects later on.

Iron Palm and Entangling Asp come to mind.

Dancing Daggers does shitty damage you say? They do more damage then when you're blinded and hexed with Faintheartedness. They do more damage when you try going for your off-hand attack even though the enemy dodged the daggers [very odd mechanic in that the daggers don't all have to hit and the enemy still registers as being lead-attack ready]

Siphon Speed is the best snare in the game with high deadly arts. Your team will love you and you yourself will have an easier time tearing his hp down...

Deadly Arts ignore armor so it behaves kind of like a majority of Shadow and Holy elemental attacks. They don't do monster spike damage, but they do cause damage unavoidably.

And in the metagame, that's far more useful to me than high spike damage that can't land...

Nice ideas Yukito...

Can you give me a bar that you've tried? I want to see what a good deadly arts build might look like!

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