W/Me smiters solo

iltasso

iltasso

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Italy

Leader of IM Ultima Weapon [UW]

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27 Sep 2006 at 08:12 - 1
hi all guys!

here we are!!!

first of all i would like to thanks all u people
of this forum for the builds, the ideas and the suggestions
u gave me! thank u very much!

ok and now the build!!

This is NOT a build of my invention it's just an adaptation of the build Rt/Me smiter solo posted by Dahnel.

Warrior/mesmer
equip:
Full gladiator armor with knight elm
superior strenght rune
sup absorb rune
sup vigor rune
minor tactics rune

set1:
zealous sword +7 al vs phisical
shield: +45 -2 while enchanted
set2:
any wand with illusion req<10
shield: +45 -2 while enchanted

Attributes

Illusion magic 10
Strenght 11+1+3 = 15
tactics = rest

Skill:

1. Sprint
2. Gladiator defense
3. Reposte
4. Deadly reposte
5. Dolyak signet
6. Healing signet
7. Sympathetic visage
8. Ancestor's visage



DON'T TRY TO KILL THE AATXES.

Starting:
i will not tell u how to run the Aatxes and get to the smiters because there is a video posted by Dahnel that explain this very well.
so... link!http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10029569

Usage:
the usage of the build is really simple, grasping and smiter are similar to minotaurs when u have active SV or AV, just use your
repostes and glad to kill while dolyak always up. Use glad wisely because if u block too much foe's attacks visages will not
trigger and the enemies would be able to use their ability: grasping r not a problem even in this case but smiter can be! So
be careful with your block!!
Nightmares r not a problem, they pop for me always when i'm not in combat, but in that case use your wand to kill them or run away
with sprint to disengage then come back and wand the nightmare before riaggro enemies.

With this build i make about 10 runs: the first two i died before getting the smiter then, when i learn how to run the aatxe ,
i died a couple of time trying to avoid the elementalists... but now i have learned how to run and the patrol path outthere i can
tell that this build works very good!!!! It's not fast as a Rt/Me but, hey u r soloing the UW with a warrior!!
So far uw dropped for me 9 ectos, some gold items and a sapphire!

What Now Homie

What Now Homie

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27 Sep 2006 at 12:49 - 2
I made it to the first group of smites and killed them, but the next mob killed me...

iltasso

iltasso

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Italy

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27 Sep 2006 at 13:17 - 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by What Now Homie
I made it to the first group of smites and killed them, but the next mob killed me... hmmmm...
how many smiter there were in this group??
maybe u use too much glad defense... if u use too much this skill your blocks don't trigger the visages effects and this will give our enemies the opportunity to cast some spell... maybe the smiter u was attacking casted SoJ in this case just skip target... if u want to be safer then use only repostes keep your visages up and healing as required, during healing u can activate glad if things go bad...

with this advices i have fight 6-8 smiters at a time!

hida

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

27 Sep 2006 at 13:26 - 4
I don't understand why you maximize strength when all your important skills are tactics based. Did you make a mistake in the write-up or am I missing something here?

iltasso

iltasso

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Italy

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27 Sep 2006 at 13:37 - 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by hida
I don't understand why you maximize strength when all your important skills are tactics based. Did you make a mistake in the write-up or am I missing something here? i prefer to be safer than having a max output damage...
strenght 15 = dolyak always up
many smiters can hurt a lot if u don't have dolyak up

btw i will try to change attributs and i'll make u know my preferences

thanks for yours replays and suggests and sorry for my bad english

Senator Tom

Senator Tom

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

California

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27 Sep 2006 at 13:39 - 6
very creative, but i think the build that can kill aatxes may be better?

Gildor Took

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Australia, 3rd rock from the sun

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27 Sep 2006 at 13:49 - 7
how do you get to smites without killing aatxes?

edit: oops i didn't see the link

iltasso

iltasso

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Italy

Leader of IM Ultima Weapon [UW]

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27 Sep 2006 at 14:47 - 8
Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Tom
very creative, but i think the build that can kill aatxes may be better? if i change sprint and glad with somethingelse i think it can be done (kill aatxes) , but imo this way is faster and without risk while if u fight the aatxes the run becomes slower and if something goes wrong...

Ogel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Phase Three

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27 Sep 2006 at 15:51 - 9
...

/worship

YAY!

Kelson

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

27 Sep 2006 at 17:01 - 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelson
I've been using a W/Me build

Riposte
Gladiator's Defense [E]
Bonnetti's Defense
Ancestor's Visage
Sympathetic Visage
Dolyak Signet
Sprint
Healing Signet

Illusion: 9
Strength 9-12
Tactics: 16
Sword: Leftovers (4)


You can't handle attaxes, dryders, etc., etc. like this, but you can kill the Darknesses & Smites easily.

I posted this a few days ago, been doing this for a good while now.

I have tried Deadly Riposte and a number of other things, but prefer Bonnetti's as the damage loss is pretty small, and it is much more stable, since Bonnett's takes care of all energy issues and gives you another cover for emergency Heal Sig or SV/AV use.

I can't watch the video now and don't know what tactics it uses, but I find pulling the Darknesses is easy. Simply aggro them & the Attaxes, then Sprint away. They move faster than the Attaxes, and will keep up, but the Attaxes will lose aggro. Then you can kill them easily. Sprint can also come in handy against the Smites, if you find yourself losing health too fast, just Sprint just enough to lose them for long enough to Heal Sig, let them come back, then rinse & repeat. Like this, you can tank at least 10 Smites, but I would try to keep the number around 6 or lower. Obviously, you can't Sprint away when Dolyak is up.

I prefer higher Tactics to Strength, as this gets the most damage out of Gladiator's Defense & Riposte, and swap out armor pieces as I need to, I don't find Dolyak to be needed vs. the Graspings, so I only use a minor rune there.

To drain the Smites energy, I let them hit me a little with SV/AV on, but no stance, then trigger the stance & heal. After the initial energy drain, the time while Gladiator's & Bonnetti's are down will be plenty to keep their energy drained, if you keep SV/AV constant.

Witte Was

Witte Was

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Left GW

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27 Sep 2006 at 17:25 - 11
Nice job u should try my W/E build sometimes though But I think your build is faster because of the SV/AV so they don't use their @!>&* heal skills so often. Again, great job!


onerabbit

onerabbit

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Thanks to all the guru [mods]

27 Sep 2006 at 17:47 - 12
ganna give this a try now, bout time i tried something new


grr damn attxe, didnt even lure and he attacked me

Witte, tel us more about ur build plz XD

Kelson

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

27 Sep 2006 at 18:09 - 13
Quote:
Originally Posted by onerabbit
grr damn attxe, didnt even lure and he attacked me What probably happened here is you aggroed it while accepting the quest, you have to watch for this. Just wait and avoid the aggro, or watch to see if you aggro any, and then Sprint towards the bottom of the room if you do.

onerabbit

onerabbit

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Join Date: Mar 2006

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27 Sep 2006 at 19:00 - 14
lol this is great fun, lured all the grasping, then stood behind the ghost, so the attxe couldnt attack me XD ( just a little trick) but, after killing all the grasping, i realised i was trapped Xd had 2 make a new way, but i got a complete run in, 2 ectos, also, try and lure 2-3 grps of smites onto, they will die so much faster with Wittes build, great fun,silver armour pwns here XD

lambda the great

lambda the great

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

here

Almost a Guild

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27 Sep 2006 at 20:36 - 15
Aww poor Aatxe there loosing love, everyone runs past them now .

Witte Was

Witte Was

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27 Sep 2006 at 21:22 - 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by onerabbit
lol this is great fun, lured all the grasping, then stood behind the ghost, so the attxe couldnt attack me XD ( just a little trick) but, after killing all the grasping, i realised i was trapped Xd had 2 make a new way, but i got a complete run in, 2 ectos, also, try and lure 2-3 grps of smites onto, they will die so much faster with Wittes build, great fun,silver armour pwns here XD I don't know which build is faster still have to try the W/Me build.

MrSlayer

MrSlayer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

United Kingdom

Quit Whining And [PLAY]

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27 Sep 2006 at 21:55 - 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by Witte Was
Nice job u should try my W/E build sometimes though But I think your build is faster because of the SV/AV so they don't use their @!>&* heal skills so often. Again, great job!


 Dude is there ANYTHING you can't solo? :P

Dam you and your sexy FoW armour

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

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27 Sep 2006 at 23:07 - 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by Witte Was
I don't know which build is faster still have to try the W/Me build. The W/Me isn't that bad, but it can't take on that many smites.

Nathan the Skank

Nathan the Skank

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Cincinnati

Sleepless Farmers

W/E

28 Sep 2006 at 00:03 - 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Witte Was
Nice job u should try my W/E build sometimes though But I think your build is faster because of the SV/AV so they don't use their @!>&* heal skills so often. Again, great job!


 Here's a build I posted a while ago which is alot like this one execpt it can solo aatxes too, however it's a little slow.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...% 2FE+UW+SOlo

jbwarrior

jbwarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Netherlands

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28 Sep 2006 at 05:32 - 20
It's a nice build, i try this one when i get home, but only one thing, for what do you use the illusion wand? Do you use it for the Dying Nightmares?

Again nice build

Greets,

Mr Jorgen

iltasso

iltasso

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Italy

Leader of IM Ultima Weapon [UW]

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28 Sep 2006 at 06:22 - 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by jbwarrior
for what do you use the illusion wand? Do you use it for the Dying Nightmares?
Yes! just in case they pop up while fighting

thanks

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

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28 Sep 2006 at 07:24 - 22
Once you learn how to use this build, it becomes 100 times easier. But I still have to admit, killing 6 smites is a semi challenge. Gg on the build.

jbwarrior

jbwarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Netherlands

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28 Sep 2006 at 07:42 - 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by iltasso
Yes! just in case they pop up while fighting

thanks NP

Is the run difficult or not?
I looked the video about 3 times, so i know the path you have to take, is it smart to use arcane echo instead of deadly riposte, because smites are immuun for bleeding and physical recistance instead of riposte?
So i mean:

Dolyak signet --> AV --> arcane acho --> Glads --> SV --> Bonneti's Defence (for energy) --> glads again --> dolyak signet/Pysical Recistance.... so on

Any Ideas?

iltasso

iltasso

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Italy

Leader of IM Ultima Weapon [UW]

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28 Sep 2006 at 07:53 - 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by jbwarrior
NP

Is the run difficult or not?
I looked the video about 3 times, so i know the path you have to take, is it smart to use arcane echo instead of deadly riposte, because smites are immuun for bleeding and physical recistance instead of riposte?
So i mean:

Dolyak signet --> AV --> arcane acho --> Glads --> SV --> Bonneti's Defence (for energy) --> glads again --> dolyak signet/Pysical Recistance.... so on

Any Ideas? the run is not difficult it took me 2 times to learn...
sry but arcane echo only works on spell... and glad's a stance, so...
they are immune to bleeding yes but not to the damage

jbwarrior

jbwarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Netherlands

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28 Sep 2006 at 08:19 - 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by iltasso
the run is not difficult it took me 2 times to learn...
sry but arcane echo only works on spell... and glad's a stance, so...
they are immune to bleeding yes but not to the damage ok, didn't know that arcane was only for spells, thanks
Damage is indead alot when tactics on 15 or 16 tacs

Kelson

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

28 Sep 2006 at 15:09 - 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
But I still have to admit, killing 6 smites is a semi challenge. Honestly, it is easier to kill the smites in small groups. However, sometimes you will get groups larger than you can kill easily....or like me, you just want to see how many you can handle. I've already mentioned using Sprint to buy a few seconds to heal sig, but there is another trick.
All groups of smites seem to have a maximum distance they will pull. If you find yourself with a group too large to kill easily, one thing you can do is pull the smites as far back (usually towards the chamber) as they will follow you, at some point they turn back. Find this point, then when you need a chance to heal, just step back across this point. They will head back to their start point, you can heal, then step forward and get them to attack again, then rinse & repeat, using Gladiator's and Riposte to wear them down as you can. It can get a little tricky balancing letting them hit you while SV is up, damaging them, Dolyak, stances & healing, but once you get it down, you can handle pretty large groups, 12+. Note that this requires reduced use of Dolyak, and because of that, I really doubt it is possible without the extra protection Bonnetti's provides in my build.
Seriously though, just stick to small groups if you can, it’s much faster & easier.

iltasso

iltasso

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Italy

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28 Sep 2006 at 15:50 - 27
hmmmm

got an idea...

instead of the 2 repostes maybe we can use renewing smash and something else
so we can use glads 3 times consecutively... maybe with theese skills it'll be possible to menage more smiters...

hmmm i have to try...

daraaksii

daraaksii

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

28 Sep 2006 at 20:31 - 28
very nice build. the 2 ripostes works pretty good, dont need to swap

iltasso

iltasso

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Italy

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28 Sep 2006 at 20:59 - 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by daraaksii
very nice build. the 2 ripostes works pretty good, dont need to swap thanks

Bloodied Blade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

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28 Sep 2006 at 21:32 - 30
...Just wondering, but without any enchantments to worry about getting rended (since you're not using 55hp monk enchants to stay alive), why use the wand for nightmares? I would assume that you meant to use it for 20/20 chance for faster cast/recharge on SV/AV.

iltasso

iltasso

Ascalonian Squire

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Italy

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29 Sep 2006 at 12:30 - 31
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloodied Blade
...Just wondering, but without any enchantments to worry about getting rended (since you're not using 55hp monk enchants to stay alive), why use the wand for nightmares? I would assume that you meant to use it for 20/20 chance for faster cast/recharge on SV/AV. With SV/AV always up things become faster and easier: grasping dont drain your energy away and the smiters dont heal themselves... for theese reasons u want to SV/AV always up an for this reason u use the wand to kill nightmare pop during a fight...

Bkobe7

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

29 Sep 2006 at 15:45 - 32
Wat do you think about the following W/E combo:

Gladiator's Defense
Whirlwind
"On Your Knees"
Bonnetti's Defense
Doylak
Heal Signet
Sprint
"To the Limit"

I was able to keep gladiator's defense up for 44 seconds at 16 tactics (and max 33 energy) using the whirlwind --> "on your knees" combo to recharge gladiator's defense before i had hit "to the limit" and go into bonneti's defense for energy. Even then, when my energy was full, i would use whirlwind --> "on your knees" again and go right back into gladiator's defense. Works great on minotaurs in elona reach...not sure about smites..maybe even the aaxtes!??

Edit: Just completed my first solo smite run by killing graspings and running past the aaxtes. Got 2 globs. I didn't try to take on any more than 5 smites at a time. Each group took ~2 minutes to kill...not too shabby.

Edit2: Holy crap just tried OP's build and it went much faster. Great job.

XvArchonvX

XvArchonvX

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

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29 Sep 2006 at 19:30 - 33
Idk if it would work, but I was thinking maybe instead of Riposte and Dolyak, would Bonneti's and Cyclone axe work maybe? idk if it would be enough to keep you alive, but if it was, you would in theory be able to do more aoe dmg output.

*edit* scratch that idea, Bonneti's probably wouldn't allow Visages to drain the smites enough. It would be nice if you could get Cyclone Axe to fit in there though. Maybe a Zealous Axe? If so, Triple Chop instead of Glads Defense may even be a legitamate substitution...

iltasso

iltasso

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Italy

Leader of IM Ultima Weapon [UW]

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01 Oct 2006 at 23:21 - 34
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
Once you learn how to use this build, it becomes 100 times easier. But I still have to admit, killing 6 smites is a semi challenge. Gg on the build. i killed 8 smiters with no problems, just use often healing signet





Arkantos

Arkantos

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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02 Oct 2006 at 02:43 - 35
Well, I found out why I had such a hassle. Big difference between -5 (20%) and -2 always.

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

06 Oct 2006 at 00:16 - 36
Works great. 3 ectos and Sup Vigor on my first run.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

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06 Oct 2006 at 00:32 - 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vilaptca
Works great. 3 ectos and Sup Vigor on my first run. What dropped the rune? gg btw.

AscalonWarrior

AscalonWarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Kokkola, Finland

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06 Oct 2006 at 05:22 - 38
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
What dropped the rune? gg btw. Chest maybe. I don't think there's rune-dropping enemies in UW

daraaksii

daraaksii

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

06 Oct 2006 at 05:26 - 39
:|:| very hard to get an armor from chests. i had one after like 200 uw runs and it was purple. my best was 5 ectos in a run. (my first run hehe, need to deflag?!) btw, i'm using bonettis instead of deadly reposte. i'll try the whirlwind build.

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

07 Oct 2006 at 02:17 - 40
I got the run from the smites. Phantasmal Armor. Lemme see if I happen to have a SS...

Of course...the only thing I took a screenshot of was the build after I killed everything...

Duh...remember now, I do. It was a chest. I killed something that dropped a key and then found the nearest chest that was surrounded by smites. After killing them I opened it and got the gold armor.