Livingston's Guide to becoming a Grandmaster Elonian Cartographer! (No Map checks!)

Myster Grim

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

GMT -5

Band of the H A W K

30 Nov 2006 at 14:26 - 483

Senator Tom

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

California

[Dark]

30 Nov 2006 at 15:24 - 484

Livingston

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Edge of the World

[L] [GET]

30 Nov 2006 at 15:27 - 485

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myster Grim

Done.

Don't be too hurt though when 1/2 still miss these.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senator Tom

Livingston

Archaic Nightmare

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Order of the Phoenix Dragons

Mo/N

30 Nov 2006 at 15:33 - 486

Hi all cheers for all the great work here and congrats to all those that have made it so far. I'm finally stumped at 99.8% so if anyone could work their magic I'd be greatly in debt to them. Here it is at 1024. Thanks in advance.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

30 Nov 2006 at 15:43 - 487

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senator Tom

If you guys don't know already, I found the easy way to explore the Garden of Sebbelblekebblebleke.
1. enter the thirark orchard mission
2. turn around
3. glitch through the space between the guard on the left and the left wall. (you may need to make the guard face the right to get it to work [talk to him while on his right])
4. explore This is mentioned on guildwiki.net.

At the end of the garden mission, the guards from the stairs go to fight the creatures and leave the stairs open for you to walk up.

If you leave the winged creatures to fight the guards, you can then walk around the entire garden and the outside without any creatures at all to fight.

BTW:

Can someone please take a look at my map, because at 99.8% I have no ideas....

1024x768

I compared it to the OPers 100% map at resolution 1024x768.

Ive noticed that one spot, where a town is, warps when you compare it to the OP map.

Ive walked around it, but it doesnt look to be needed. I think its a glitch on map somehow or the location has moved.

Ive also noticed the 3 spots in and near the garden in the center.

Ive explored them, and they havent gone, so either they were missed on the map I compared it to, or again something is different.

Other then those 4 subtle differences, which havent added anything, or even changed, I cant find anywhere else.

As I said the last time, can you either msg me on here with the image, or email me at [email protected].

I dont check this too often.

Cheers

SilentVex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Maguuma Stade

30 Nov 2006 at 16:19 - 488

Quote:

Originally Posted by klorbonde

He dont use his eyes.. He's using photoshop to do it.. But it works very nice

Actually I'm using both. Simply using photoshop doesn't mean I can stop looking.

Quote:

Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

Ive also noticed the 3 spots in and near the garden in the center.
Ive explored them, and they havent gone, so either they were missed on the map I compared it to, or again something is different. Those were missed on the map you compared to. I've known about them for some time, and got them the other day. Just need to update my maps.

No time to check some maps this moment, later today for sure though.

Nya

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mo/A

30 Nov 2006 at 18:12 - 489

EDIT: I managed to find the last spot I was missing and got my GMC title

. Thanks for the help Silent! ^^

Impressive

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2006

Mo/

30 Nov 2006 at 18:30 - 490

I have 99,7% and i'm very tierd.... silent, can u check my map pls?

1280 x 1024 bitmap > http://home.arcor.de/-frag-/99,7.bmp

klorbonde

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

MEAN

30 Nov 2006 at 18:38 - 491

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myster Grim

And here are some commonly missed spots. I always double check all these spots when comparing a map because probably about 1/2 seem to miss them.

Livinston can we get this on page one. Would save a lot of time. I would add all portals between a explorable arean and another explorable area.. (those portals where there a no town or outpost) to commonly missed spots..
But a great with some commonly missed spots.. Helped me alot in cantha.. But cantha was also much harder to explore..

TXAR-CUT

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Catalonia, Spain

CDT

30 Nov 2006 at 18:43 - 492

Ive discovered a 98,1% of the map and i'm stuck..... can u plz help me with your magic?¿

1280x1024 map --> http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2hqe910

Reduced to 679x543 --> http://i17.tinypic.com/2hqe910.jpg

Thx in advance!!

SilentVex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Maguuma Stade

30 Nov 2006 at 19:03 - 493

Quote:

Originally Posted by TXAR-CUT

can u plz help me with your magic?¿ I will, but only because you used an upside down question mark. That's just flipping sweet (literally :P ).

archaic marked
rob marked again again again
Rob, can you just post some stitched U maps? I have a feeling you've got a bunch of tiny .05% chunks that I'm not seeing.

Everyone else, I haven't forgotten, I just don't have time to look at them this moment.

Isfit

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

Vienna

30 Nov 2006 at 20:39 - 494

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentVex

Isft: too low quality, post a .bmp Here pls: http://rapidshare.com/files/5499897/gw039.bmp.html

ChoKILLate[FDG]

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

[FDG]-Fudge

Mo/Me

30 Nov 2006 at 20:51 - 495

When you use the photoshop area and do difference, is there anything else you can do to bring up the spots more like changing the level or contrast?

SilentVex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Maguuma Stade

30 Nov 2006 at 22:16 - 496

freekedoutfish: You're map got resized too small.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChoKILLate[FDG]

When you use the photoshop area and do difference, is there anything else you can do to bring up the spots more like changing the level or contrast? I don't use the difference method, so I don't know. From what I can see, analyzing a difference map of elona is about 10x more difficult, 10x slower, and 10x less accurate than simply putting your map on the layer above a complete map and clicking it on and off. I can check out a whole map in about 5-7 minutes doing that.

impressive marked
TXAR-CUT marked

Also, I've updated the .bmp maps, and I'll probably be making a new U map soon. My best guess puts me at 100.8-.9%.

\/ Cyan: 2-300%, any closer and you miss stuff.

Cyan The Archer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark

30 Nov 2006 at 22:24 - 497

Vex, how much are you zoomed using that method?

Archaic Nightmare

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Order of the Phoenix Dragons

Mo/N

30 Nov 2006 at 22:41 - 498

Cheers for that Silent got the last bit sussed now and got my KOABD title today too. Many thanks ;-)

lavenbb

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Rt/

01 Dec 2006 at 01:02 - 499

ah finally ><"

Everyone was saying how easy this is.. I don't think so!
Thanks for the help SilentVex.

BuD

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Nunya

E/Mo

01 Dec 2006 at 01:29 - 500

Thanks a ton!

death_by_sparkles

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2006

01 Dec 2006 at 05:29 - 501

Hi, i've gotten to 98.0% but am stuck...
im not sure if any of these links will work but here they are lol...
if one of the links works could someone please use there photoshop skills to help me out i would greatly appreciate it

http://i17.tinypic.com/4cw03zk.jpg
http://i17.tinypic.com/4cw03zk.jpg

SilentVex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Maguuma Stade

01 Dec 2006 at 05:42 - 502

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freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

01 Dec 2006 at 08:54 - 503

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentVex

freekedoutfish: You're map got resized too small.

I don't use the difference method, so I don't know... Did photobucket muck the image up? I checked and its stuck the stupid thing down to 800x600 and I doubt I can put anything bigger on. Apparently I need to update it my account for anything bigger.

Ill try with imageshack... if this doesnt work ill scream.

Cheers for telling me.

Prospero

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Between keyboard and chair

KoTR

01 Dec 2006 at 12:03 - 504

It's amazing you can do so much with what I thought was a poor quality screen-shot. Thank you VERY VERY much!

Myster Grim

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

GMT -5

Band of the H A W K

01 Dec 2006 at 13:43 - 505

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livingston

Done.

Don't be too hurt though when 1/2 still miss these.

Livingston
That is not my map but it is SilentVex's map. No way would I try to take credit for SilentVex's great work to the community. I just wanted to point it out and get on the front page. There I am guild free again.

SilentVex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Maguuma Stade

01 Dec 2006 at 15:59 - 506

freekedoutfish: The image is the correct size this time, but the jpg quality is really poor. I miss spots when there is so much fuzz. Just post the .bmp if you can.

Talan Imass

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

DotB

Rt/Me

01 Dec 2006 at 16:37 - 507

Hello People.

I made this forum account especially for this thing. Im new to the exploring thing (have been playing GW since start though). And well, I got pretty far with the guide and some posts here, but I need help to finish it. What makes it a bit tough for you guys is that I suck at imaging and stuff on PC's. I made a screen of my M map, but i play on a widescreen, so its resolution might be off. I have tried to switch to the resolutions requested, but my view gets very strange (not good for comparing).

Hope you people can help me get my very first explorer title. My map is posted below. Im at 98%. Tnxs in advance!

EDIT: Faster M pick for the clouds thingy as suggested in first post

ChoKILLate[FDG]

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

[FDG]-Fudge

Mo/Me

01 Dec 2006 at 16:42 - 508

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentVex

freekedoutfish: You're map got resized too small.

I don't use the difference method, so I don't know. From what I can see, analyzing a difference map of elona is about 10x more difficult, 10x slower, and 10x less accurate than simply putting your map on the layer above a complete map and clicking it on and off. I can check out a whole map in about 5-7 minutes doing that.

Also, I've updated the .bmp maps, and I'll probably be making a new U map soon. My best guess puts me at 100.8-.9%. Thanks, after trying your method I went from 95% to 99.4% and I still have some areas to get to. If I get stuck I will post my bmp but so far it woks nicely. I even found that it helps some to sharpen both images so that the pixel differences stand out more!

Keep up the great work and do you have a link to your new updated bmp map because I think there are a couple spots that I have, that the original does not.

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

01 Dec 2006 at 18:40 - 509

The JPG of my map. Done quickly at 1280x1024. 99.5% completed, tabbed 2 of the 3 '100%' maps from the first page and wall hugged all the towns. Now just a little bit stuck...

Much appreciated if you could find the rest

SnipiousMax

Perfectly Elocuted

Join Date: Sep 2005

01 Dec 2006 at 19:42 - 510

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

01 Dec 2006 at 19:55 - 511

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnipiousMax

^I was in the same boat Sod. Try entering and exiting the Command Post through all the exits in the surrounding areas, that netted me .1-.2%. I'm sitting at 99.7% now, very slowly making my way through areas I did quickly. I just tried... didn't net me anything. Think i saw 2 things unfog slightly once but other than that not enough for a 0.1%.

darktemplar32489

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

[kiSu]

01 Dec 2006 at 20:03 - 512

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentVex

darktemplar32489: it looks like you put your U map on imageshack, which will resize it to an unusable size. See the requirements above

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/6756/gw238vq5.jpg
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l1...2489/gw238.jpg

sorry i didnt know

SilentVex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Maguuma Stade

01 Dec 2006 at 20:23 - 513

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TyrianFury

Guest

Join Date: May 2006

UK

E/

01 Dec 2006 at 21:32 - 514

Hi all

I really need help, I'm currently on 99.9% explored and I am totally stuck. I was mapping from the start of them game, got to 99.8 when I completed the desolation and managed to uncover some fog in Kamadan but got no % for it.

finally got to 99.9 in when I re-mapped some of Gandara.

No idea on the last bit. Here is my map any suggestions will be most appreciated!

Here is my map 1440x900

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/4...fury999gm1.jpg

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

01 Dec 2006 at 21:38 - 515

Quote:
Originally Posted by SilentVex
freekedoutfish: The image is the correct size this time, but the jpg quality is really poor. I miss spots when there is so much fuzz. Just post the .bmp if you can. 3rd time lucky.

Im surprised the quality wasnt good enough. I always assumed jpgs didnt loose any quality in the compression.

Heres the bmp version:

Ok issue; its refusing to let me upload it to imageshack or photobucket due to size limitations on the file itselfs. As a BMP its over 2mb and thats too big.

Do you have an email address I can use? or can you think of an alternative image hosting webstite?

LicensedLuny

Badly Influenced

Join Date: Dec 2005

Buying Humps! (No kidding! Check my buy thread)

Hello Kitty Krewe [HKK] Forever!-ish

01 Dec 2006 at 22:33 - 516

Hi all,

I just recently finished my Elona GMC map, and that makes three GMC titles. Since I got the first Tyria one, I've been writing guide posts for friends with screenies of my maps, only in sections rather than the whole thing at once. The smaller images can be helpful for some approaches to finding the missing bits.

My friend, and the site admin, was kind enough to give me permission to leave links here in case anyone else finds these helpful.

my Tryian Grandmaster Cartographer guide
my Canthan Grandmaster Cartographer guide (mostly just maps)
my Elonian Grandmaster Cartographer guide (again, mostly just maps)

I haven't put anything naughty (that I know of) in the specific post pages, but if you go exploring around further please note that they're on a site that's:not entirely about Guild Wars not entirely in English not entirely fit for children or the squeamish or the politically correct
Hope it helps, and best of luck to everyone out there working on these titles!
Cheers,
Luny

death_by_sparkles

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2006

01 Dec 2006 at 23:06 - 517

Thanks a ton Vex your spots helped me get another percent to 99.0% but im stuck again. It'd be awesome if you could check mine one more time to help me get that last 1% its killing me lol. Thanks again, you rock.

http://i13.tinypic.com/2s67asw.jpg