why does ppl try to get survivor with assassins
oh and dont reply "sins are uber duh"
real comments plz
why sins?
visitor
my question is simple
why does ppl try to get survivor with assassins
oh and dont reply "sins are uber duh"
real comments plz
why does ppl try to get survivor with assassins
oh and dont reply "sins are uber duh"
real comments plz
olly123
because a sin has like 60 armor and thay rush into the middle of combat, its harder for a monk to keep them alive. so it shows the other ppl that there not n00bs and that thay can do stuff as well as getting surviver with the hardest possible character to do it with
Damaris Arcadian
I agree with Olly. It's hard to find a "smart" assasin in game. Most of em run in and are usualy the first ones to die. 
Haveing the survivor title kinda says.. "I'm a Smart assasin!"
Haveing the survivor title kinda says.. "I'm a Smart assasin!"
exiled mat
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Originally Posted by Damaris Arcadian
I agree with Olly. It's hard to find a "smart" assasin in game. Most of em run in and are usualy the first ones to die.
Haveing the survivor title kinda says.. "I'm a Smart assasin!" |
or: i have good helping friends who have powerleveled me and will get you if you don't like me
Hephaestus Ram
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Originally Posted by visitor
my question is simple
why does ppl try to get survivor with assassins oh and dont reply "sins are uber duh" real comments plz |
Why not? An assassin has as good a chance of surviving in
a battle as any other character. With their shadow skills and
proper selection of a secondary assassins are very good.
I know that at first glance it might seem like say .... a wo/mo
has a much better chance of getting that title. But when you
concider that a wo/mo takes three to four times as long to
make a kill, they can make a battle drag on well past the point
where the groups casters and healers can continue to be
effective.
I generally feel like any battle that takes more than 60 seconds
to complete (PvE of course) to be a failure, wo/mos are
notorious for exceeding that time limit. A good offence is still
the best defence.
Sorry... just noticed that you're a wo/mo... no offence intended.
Hey, that's kind of a little joke.
meowmeow89
Cause they want to?
pve-er
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Originally Posted by Damaris Arcadian
I agree with Olly. It's hard to find a "smart" assasin in game. Most of em run in and are usualy the first ones to die.
Haveing the survivor title kinda says.. "I'm a Smart assasin!" |
I rather trust a people with exploration or protector title. at lease they will know where to go or how the mission works
lennymon
Titles are merely an indicator of the person behind the toon at best, but its all you got to go on. If one's entire point is to get survivor on an assassin JUST to get into groups, why not just make a friggin monk and be done with it?
People do it for the challenge and for the bragging rights... but become disenchanted once they die before survivor 2 and also once they discover that nobody else will ever care. Leaving only the challenge.
People do it for the challenge and for the bragging rights... but become disenchanted once they die before survivor 2 and also once they discover that nobody else will ever care. Leaving only the challenge.
Tachyon
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Originally Posted by visitor
my question is simple
why does ppl try to get survivor with assassins oh and dont reply "sins are uber duh" real comments plz |
lennymon
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Originally Posted by Azagoth
What an crass, inane and poorly grammaticized question. It's called freedom of choice, if someone want's to get the 'Survivor' title with an Assassin then it's up to them an nobody else.
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Tachyon
Yeah, that's down to too many FPS games on this notebook. The W, S, A and D keys are slightly dodgy (see knackered) and need to be hit quite hard to register the keystroke.
Kook~NBK~
Hmmm.... "Why do people try to get survivor with Assassins?"
Why do people try to get in PvE PUG groups as Mesmers?
Why do Necros try playing builds other than MM or Orders?
WHY NOT? If I were one to enjoy playing an Assassin, then I'd probably want to get a title or two under my belt with that character. Going for the Survivor title as an Asssassin is quite the challenge - when done without the crutch of power leveling.
Why do people try to get in PvE PUG groups as Mesmers?
Why do Necros try playing builds other than MM or Orders?
WHY NOT? If I were one to enjoy playing an Assassin, then I'd probably want to get a title or two under my belt with that character. Going for the Survivor title as an Asssassin is quite the challenge - when done without the crutch of power leveling.
Kook~NBK~
stupid double post.
Trvth Jvstice
I admit that an Assassin earning a survivor title may look impressive, but I imagine he/she would have screwed over many groups by leaving or running off when things weren't going well with the mission/quest. The only way that didn't happen is if he got power leveled as mentioned previously.
Are there any viable farming builds for assassins? Can an A/Mo simply use his secondary and farm as a monk? I suppose he could have simply farmed his way to a survivor title.
Are there any viable farming builds for assassins? Can an A/Mo simply use his secondary and farm as a monk? I suppose he could have simply farmed his way to a survivor title.
icedragon981
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Are there any viable farming builds for assassins? Can an A/Mo simply use his secondary and farm as a monk? I suppose he could have simply farmed his way to a survivor title.
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Hephaestus Ram
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I admit that an Assassin earning a survivor title may look impressive, but I imagine he/she would have screwed over many groups by leaving or running off when things weren't going well with the mission/quest. The only way that didn't happen is if he got power leveled as mentioned previously.
Are there any viable farming builds for assassins? Can an A/Mo simply use his secondary and farm as a monk? I suppose he could have simply farmed his way to a survivor title. |
You are so narrow minded that it's a safe bet that when you want
to see whats going on in the other room, you just slide your head
up under the door rather than open it.
Assassins are just as good as any other character in the game.
LuckyGiant
I think that its more the fact that many people have played the 6 core professions and have no intention of playing them again (as in starting over) and since titles were introduced after probably almost all these characters had died so only the newly created ones have a chance of getting it.
Therefore sins and rts are probably more likely to have the titles, also most core professions probably have better titles to show.
Therefore sins and rts are probably more likely to have the titles, also most core professions probably have better titles to show.
Trvth Jvstice
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Originally Posted by Hephaestus Ram
You are so narrow minded that it's a safe bet that when you want
to see whats going on in the other room, you just slide your head up under the door rather than open it. Assassins are just as good as any other character in the game. |
I know that when a good Assassin is in a group, he doesn't try to tank or act like a warrior, he zips in and does enormous dmg to his target , then zips out before he takes a lot of dmg.
I apologize if it seemed like I was anti-Assassin. As I said, I love Assassins.
Cicada Sopita
At least the first title can easily be gained with just doing quests - no farming needed. Also, since the pve can most of the time be easier with henchies than PUGs, I think that many who are trying to get the survivor wont bother with grouping with other people - and therefore don't mess up anyone else's missions but their own... That's what I did, at least. 
Painbringer
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Originally Posted by Trvth Jvstice
I admit that an Assassin earning a survivor title may look impressive, but I imagine he/she would have screwed over many groups by leaving or running off when things weren't going well with the mission/quest. The only way that didn't happen is if he got power leveled as mentioned previously.
Are there any viable farming builds for assassins? Can an A/Mo simply use his secondary and farm as a monk? I suppose he could have simply farmed his way to a survivor title. |
Stemnin
I still can't believe my guildie henched arborstone with her sin and got master's, its not a difficult mission, but I cant hench it for master's with 6 different characters lol.
Plushie Penguin
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Originally Posted by olly123
because a sin has like 60 armor and thay rush into the middle of combat, its harder for a monk to keep them alive. so it shows the other ppl that there not n00bs and that thay can do stuff as well as getting surviver with the hardest possible character to do it with
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since it's not really good enough for a mele class, assassins generally can't take a hit too well[and dervishes may get this problem too]
The Pointless
I'd just like to say that the Survivor title does not always denote intelligence or skill.
My point? Unwaking Waters, an inexperienced Ranger and a Prima Donna of a Survivor Monk that can't seem to get it into his thick skull that his "tactics" are not working and assumed those that fail to pull off said tactics are n00bs who can't play and should have stayed at Pre-Searing.
My point? Unwaking Waters, an inexperienced Ranger and a Prima Donna of a Survivor Monk that can't seem to get it into his thick skull that his "tactics" are not working and assumed those that fail to pull off said tactics are n00bs who can't play and should have stayed at Pre-Searing.
SirShadowrunner
Well being in a large Alliance with 10 guilds I have saw alot of ppl working on there
Assassin Survivor title talk about almost dieing and bailing out just in time, when
Factions came out I made an Assassin and completed both Kurzick and Luxon sides,
I love my Assassin, and now have my first lvl elite skill hunter title, so from my point
of view if I were assembling the pug, and I thought the peson was working on this title I
would not want the person in the group, chances are the person will bail or maybe
not contribute as much as possible. Actually anyone working on this title I would
not want in the group, that is what Guilds and friends are for.
Assassin Survivor title talk about almost dieing and bailing out just in time, when
Factions came out I made an Assassin and completed both Kurzick and Luxon sides,
I love my Assassin, and now have my first lvl elite skill hunter title, so from my point
of view if I were assembling the pug, and I thought the peson was working on this title I
would not want the person in the group, chances are the person will bail or maybe
not contribute as much as possible. Actually anyone working on this title I would
not want in the group, that is what Guilds and friends are for.
beta man
QFT
no offence, i never take anyone with survivor title into my team in mission or quest, had very bad experience with them. i feel their only good point is their fast reflexes to map out.
And don't expect them to run away and come back to rez u when the team gone bad, they will simply quit......
no offence, i never take anyone with survivor title into my team in mission or quest, had very bad experience with them. i feel their only good point is their fast reflexes to map out.
And don't expect them to run away and come back to rez u when the team gone bad, they will simply quit......
explodemyheart
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Originally Posted by Painbringer
By just henching and doing area quests you can get Survivor title before the 3rd Mission, and not screw anyone.
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Crystal Alice
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...because a sin has like 60 armor and thay rush into the middle of combat, its harder for a monk to keep them alive...
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it was impossible to keep them alive with the huge groups of enemies one of them pulled in and so i had to let them die or else the team was dead.
so they start yelling at me that i'm a horrible monk for letting them die.
it was very amusing...
my opinion is that sins are good if the PLAYER is smart about using a sin. most people who use sins have no idea what they're doing and so most people will not allow them into their groups.
Ondo
I so want to comment, but sadly I feel this subject will never be a closed issue. Stereotyping will always be here, and the poor Assasin that knows what he/she is doing will have to put up with Henchies, Heros, and Guildmates, or forever sit in a mission area spamming Sin LFG....
Franco
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erm... A/E can solo Sunreach.. I have a friend of mine that make quite a lot of dosh with his assassin, geting sometimes 5 sunreach shields a day ..
visitor
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Originally Posted by Crystal Alice
my opinion is that sins are good if the PLAYER is smart about using a sin. most people who use sins have no idea what they're doing and so most people will not allow them into their groups. |
Franco
I think sins are good in pvp. But dont see many builds with sins in them.
Abyss1
Don't know about Sins in PvP , AB yeah they can get ahead of the pack and deal some conditions and dash out but other then that most sins I see in PVP are sacrifices for the team most of the time....
On the other hand having played through Factions with my first sin and now working on my second (deleted my first ......) It is what actually learned to do most if not all missions with hench because people just don't give sins the light of day. Why well because all thoose wanne be sin-tanks gave it such a bad name the proffession is gone to **** and well I think it is wrong.....
I guess people forget that sins aren't tanks , but they can (if used right) take alot of damage more so then the damn monk or other caster in there.
And if people say Sin's are bad I would liek to bring up some flame bait....the current status of monks....why do they think they are indistructable at the moment ?! I play every proffession and frequent the elites but also help out guildies and friends all over the place and it seems that the monks lately die more then all sin's combined !
Sorry for that but i think the whole sin discussion has become short sighted and more and more based on hear say then actual experience just because most sins don't make it past vizunah anymore ....because noone lets them.
And the one that does make it does it usually either with hench or guildies....
On the other hand having played through Factions with my first sin and now working on my second (deleted my first ......) It is what actually learned to do most if not all missions with hench because people just don't give sins the light of day. Why well because all thoose wanne be sin-tanks gave it such a bad name the proffession is gone to **** and well I think it is wrong.....
I guess people forget that sins aren't tanks , but they can (if used right) take alot of damage more so then the damn monk or other caster in there.
And if people say Sin's are bad I would liek to bring up some flame bait....the current status of monks....why do they think they are indistructable at the moment ?! I play every proffession and frequent the elites but also help out guildies and friends all over the place and it seems that the monks lately die more then all sin's combined !
Sorry for that but i think the whole sin discussion has become short sighted and more and more based on hear say then actual experience just because most sins don't make it past vizunah anymore ....because noone lets them.
And the one that does make it does it usually either with hench or guildies....