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fenix

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28 Sep 2006 at 09:34 - 41

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The only fact that's important here is player abusing the other player for not switching his runes/skills in a timely manner the sbuser thought was sufficient. Flaming and insulting someone for taking care to equip and skill properly instead of loading the mission with "GOGOGOGO" is both rude and stupid. Those are the facts. kthx

Erm...if you are going to rebut my arguments, you should probably at least talk about them, but each to their own. Yes the player abused another, but here's the go; a) Its a free world, b) They ARE better and c) If you want someone to come help, it would be nice to be ready to go when they get there. If he was called to help out, he wouldn't want to be kept for ages while the team organise itself, they should already be set up. The FACTS are that Fish are better than this guy, and the guy from Fish was obviously annoyed that he had to wait around for the team to get ready, which is fair enough. Next time find better arguments cataphract, instead of repeating the OP's comments. gfg.

cataphract

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28 Sep 2006 at 09:36 - 42

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Originally Posted by talon

Erm...if you are going to rebut my arguments, you should probably at least talk about them, but each to their own. Yes the player abused another, but here's the go; a) Its a free world, b) They ARE better and c) If you want someone to come help, it would be nice to be ready to go when they get there. If he was called to help out, he wouldn't want to be kept for ages while the team organise itself, they should already be set up. The FACTS are that Fish are better than this guy, and the guy from Fish was obviously annoyed that he had to wait around for the team to get ready, which is fair enough. Next time find better arguments cataphract, instead of repeating the OP's comments. gfg.

In order for me to rebut your arguments I would need you to supply them first. Mkay?

Lynxius

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28 Sep 2006 at 09:37 - 43

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Originally Posted by Song Rui

They have the right to say anything to you. Whos saying they can't huh?

They have the right???

They dont have the right, but they have the possibility of doing it regardless it being rude and offensive, but then again, ignore list has its purposes.

Too bad my ignore list is full, anet does need to extend the limit a lot, i mean if we want to have a good time playing without pesky idiots buggering our game then this is a necessity.
I have the right to play a happy game without scammers and rude people, a large ignore list will help this imensily.

*click click type type* bye forever.

Song Rui

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28 Sep 2006 at 09:38 - 44

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Originally Posted by Lynxius Pardonus

They have the right???

They dont have the right, but they have the possibility of doing it regardless it being rude and offensive, but then again, ignore list has its purposes.

Too bad my ignore list is full, anet does need to extend the limit a lot, i mean if we want to have a good time playing without pesky idiots buggering our game then this is a necessity.
I have the right to play a happy game without scammers and rude people, a large ignore list will help this imensily.

*click click type type* bye forever.

Tch. Ignore Lists are for weak-minded people and whiners IMO.

I've never used it.

Others will have a different opinion of course

Thallandor

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28 Sep 2006 at 09:38 - 45

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Originally Posted by Song Rui

Well. I'd like to see anet doing something about this behaviour then. Otherwise I'd have been suspended at least once. But oh no, too busy getting NF ready. Just want money.

Anet cant punish anyone for being a bigot, being mean, rude or being snorbish Elitist Prick in general no matter what rank their guild is in as long they aviod issues of race, religion, gender and country slander or accessive verbal abuse.

Your Ingore List exist for your own protection against them along with scammers, spammers and their lot, if only it can be longer. If i had a penny for every person i have blocked in game, i would have enough to pay for Nightfall already.

End of the day, your time is your most precious asset. Choose who you like to spend it on/with wisely.

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28 Sep 2006 at 09:40 - 46

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Originally Posted by cataphract

If you want to have fun, try telling that to someone in [MATH] or any other iway/rspike/spirit spam/bspike fame farmer.

Well, I know for a fact that a friend of mine who started playing two months ago can steamroll r9s when taken out of context. And he has no GvG/HA rank.

fenix

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28 Sep 2006 at 09:42 - 47

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In order for me to rebut your arguments I would need you to supply them first. Mkay?

Go back and read my posts plx? Maybe you should try and find something else to do other than posting stupid arguments in a thread that you obviously haven't read properly. Adding kthx after your posts doesn't make you right, it makes you look like a moron, or arrogant. Paired with the fact that your statements have been wrong, or at best wrong about this particular issue, you are making yourself look stupid in front of a forum of thousands.

Regarding this thread:

Yes the guy from Fish is good at the game. He clearly stated that. If you are called to help a team, the team should be somewhat organised, rather than having to set skills and attributes while you are waiting to go. Despite the fact that Fish are good at the game, and possibly better than the OP and his team, it CAN be offensive to some people to brag about this. Yes the guy from Fish has the right to say those things, but that doesn't mean that he should.

Song Rui

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28 Sep 2006 at 09:43 - 48

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Originally Posted by LightningHell

Well, I know for a fact that a friend of mine who started playing two months ago can steamroll r9s when taken out of context. And he has no GvG/HA rank.

1v1 means nothing in case you didnt know.

Lynxius

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28 Sep 2006 at 09:51 - 49

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Originally Posted by Song Rui

Tch. Ignore Lists are for weak-minded people and whiners IMO.

I've never used it.

Others will have a different opinion of course

1st- Lets think about it like this:
Imagine a certain day i was happily playing around in this great game, when a certain someone decides to spoil the fun and trow senseless insults at me.
If i know im right in the part of the discussion, il present my point of view, if the offender decides to play deaf and be a troll that doesnt listen, then i wont waste more of my time with him, because i know im right, and dont need to prove anything at all.

2nd- Hence ignore list comes into function, i dont want to listen to his whinning/complaining/insults about something completelly absurd and out of reason just because he has some problems in real life and needs to let out some steam on a virtual world where there is no visual/physical contact with a real person( and thats why people just dont give a crap, its not the real world)

3rd- A person who uses the ignore list isnt weak minded, much less a whinner.
They are Impatient at most, IF THAT.
Sure its your right to be a total ass and start being rude, and its my right to simply see how litle empathetic,unfriendly and plain rude you are, and put you on ignore list.

Song Rui

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28 Sep 2006 at 09:54 - 50

uh. w/e you say.

Lynxius

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28 Sep 2006 at 09:56 - 51

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Originally Posted by Song Rui

uh. w/e you say.

Short and unproductive replies.

Proof of my righteousness.

Btw by saying "w/e you say" you are assuming the role of troll that doesnt want to listen to reason. (which i mentioned in post #49)

Amity and Truth

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28 Sep 2006 at 10:05 - 52

Yay, let's all celebrate the PVP Ubermensch \o/
Another "PVE Players are inferior human beings" thread proudly presented by GuildWars Guru.

I guess it is all the "dominate others" aspect of PVP that let's them go all Hitler Style about PVE Players.

And yes, this post was insulting, offensive and downright suiting into yet another PVP versus PVE thread. Just close it allready, there is no point discussing this at all. It's been this way since the release of GuildWars. Hardcore PVP hates all PVE. Hardcore PVE hates all PVP. Both don't like each other. Both want to express their superioty over the other group. Both are full of morons with no dignity and decency.

Play the game you want to play it. Don't get worked up because a PVE Player insulted you by not switching runes fast enough. Don't get worked up because a PVP Player tried to dominate you, the ubermensch he is.

cataphract

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28 Sep 2006 at 10:06 - 53

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Originally Posted by talon

Go back and read my posts plx? Maybe you should try and find something else to do other than posting stupid arguments in a thread that you obviously haven't read properly.

Ok, but you go and read my posts plx. Maybe you should try and find something else to do other than posting dumb arguments in a thread you obviously have not read properly.

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Originally Posted by talon

Adding kthx after your posts doesn't make you right, it makes you look like a moron, or arrogant. Paired with the fact that your statements have been wrong, or at best wrong about this particular issue, you are making yourself look stupid in front of a forum of thousands.

Plx note the bolded text and try to figure out why I used kthx. While you're at it, read your posts again if you're looking for wrong statements.

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Originally Posted by talon

Regarding this thread:

Yes the guy from Fish is good at the game. He clearly stated that. If you are called to help a team, the team should be somewhat organised, rather than having to set skills and attributes while you are waiting to go. Despite the fact that Fish are good at the game, and possibly better than the OP and his team, it CAN be offensive to some people to brag about this. Yes the guy from Fish has the right to say those things, but that doesn't mean that he should.

italic: If he's so good at the game as you and he state, and if PvE is so much easier than PvP - why would such a good player need help in PvE?
underlined: Do you seriously think that one MUST be prepared with skills and armor when called upon to help? Are you THAT ignorant that you can't imagine a scenario where a player is farming with a 55 monk, called upon to help out in, say THK, he comes to THK with the 55 monk and you start the mission? THAT'S bad organisation.

fenix

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28 Sep 2006 at 10:11 - 54

You sure don't get it. I think you MUST be reading the wrong thread, you can't be posting about this one. Here's what happened, as the OP wrote it:

Player A + Player B went to farm.
Player C (from Fish) came along to help.

Unless I am mistaken, the PvPer didn't ask for help. Now stop being an idiot and read the thread again. All the arguments have been clearly stated by everyone, you are posting things that don't make any sense.

Lynxius

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28 Sep 2006 at 10:13 - 55

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Originally Posted by talon

You sure don't get it. I think you MUST be reading the wrong thread, you can't be posting about this one. Here's what happened, as the OP wrote it:

Player A + Player B went to farm.
Player C (from Fish) came along to help.

Unless I am mistaken, the PvPer didn't ask for help. Now stop being an idiot and read the thread again. All the arguments have been clearly stated by everyone, you are posting things that don't make any sense.

Lets try keeping this as civilized and constructive as possible.

Flaming will only get this closed sooner.

fenix

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28 Sep 2006 at 10:18 - 56

True, I was a little harsh on the guy. I think this thread has all but exhausted it's discussion value anyway. Clearly its just a case of the OP being angry that a PvPer was being elitist. That's fair enough, because people shouldn't brag because of their rating, but that doesn't mean that the guy from Fish isn't allowed to. This thing happens alot though, just pop onto observer mode some time. Thousend Tigers Apund Your Head are a great example of this. They run SB/RI with 3 Rits, and because of this are difficult to beat, despite the fact that you need almost no skill to play the build. All this aside, they brag on observer about how their rank is so much better than everyone elses (well, used to be), and how they can pwn everyone.

This happens alot, all over the place (not only in Guild Wars), so the OP just needs to keep a stiff upper lip, and either Ignore the guy, or kick him from the group.

Avarre

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28 Sep 2006 at 10:19 - 57

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Originally Posted by Avarre

There is a difference between having the right, and being right. Please take the time to consider which is applicable here.

Bringing this up again... there's a right for players to speak however they want. This is not to be contested, it seems logical enough.

From there, whether they are right in saying that is independent.

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Originally Posted by talon

Player A + Player B went to farm.
Player C (from Fish) came along to help.

If this is indeed the case, the person being called to help has the full right to determine if helping is worth their time. The fact that the OP just came here to whine about the situation rather than properly defending themselves to the offending player just proves to me that they have nothing to stand up with - the Fish player in that case, is superior.

Complaining to other people about something that should remain a matter between two people or the group itself doesn't give much credibility.

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Originally Posted by Song Rui

Tch. Ignore Lists are for weak-minded people and whiners IMO.

While I don't neccessarily agree... I've never kept anyone on my ignore list. There's no point - generally more amusement to be gotten from their blundering attacks.

Thallandor

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28 Sep 2006 at 10:31 - 58

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Originally Posted by Lynxius Pardonus

Flaming will only get this closed sooner.

I liked the way you phrase the prediction for the future of this thread.

cataphract

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28 Sep 2006 at 10:56 - 59

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Originally Posted by talon

You sure don't get it.

On the contrary, my young padawan - it is you who does not get it.

Now please, close this. I don't want to get banned because of someone with deductive reasoning problems.

Divinus Stella

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Wales

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28 Sep 2006 at 11:02 - 60

You dont have to be a great player to be high ranked or be in a high ranked guild, if you watch observer at all you will find that in a lot of the top guilds theres often 5~ good players and then space fillers, the ones with the real skill are the ones creating the builds and calling the strat, the rest just do as they are told, aslong as they dont screw up in a big way they usually get the job done.

I was watching EW on observer last nite, along with the usual 7 familiar players there was a warrior running about with ascalon stat armor using a sundering weapon to charge up and spike, he looked like he was lost, but he just got carried thru by the rest of his party.

tomcruisejr

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28 Sep 2006 at 11:08 - 61

Blame one's attitude, not the rank. Hell, Ive played with "no-name" people in PVE who are ass-ier than me. There are high ranked (HA/GvG) peeps out there who are blessed with lotsa humility.

led-zep

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28 Sep 2006 at 11:20 - 62

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Originally Posted by Avarre

Are you seriously saying that you feel that the Fishmonger players aren't superior to you, when you have no Guild rank?

Sorry, but the communism revolution hasn't quite swept Tyria yet. Players with not only higher rank, but substantially higher rank aren't there because they're not good players. It's a meritocracy, and unless you can prove they aren't superior... well, they certainly do in that case have the right.

Sure it's not nice of them to act like that, but your rhetoric doesn't make it unjustified or deny them the the right.

basicly what you have said is pompous pvp elitism.
so, by your thinking, the iway fame farmer is superior to the proper pvper?

Kook~NBK~

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28 Sep 2006 at 12:06 - 63

Not only is mentioning a players name against the rules, so is mentioning a guild.

1. Elitist attitudes exist in GW. It's not a problem for me because I don't let the elitist jerks bother me. That's their problem.

2. Got that deer/tiger/whatever emote? Good for you! Does it mean anything to me? Only that you play alot of HA - nothing more.

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Natural Born Killaz

28 Sep 2006 at 12:07 - 64

It's too early in the morning, sorry for the double post.

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28 Sep 2006 at 12:09 - 65

High rank does not necessarily mean juvenile, ill-mannered, head up own backside jerk – but can do as well as low ranked players

I respect people equally regardless of rank and judge them on their own merits, both as a player and personally.

To answer what I believe was the question, then no, high rank should not mean ill-mannered jerk!

Kook~NBK~

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Natural Born Killaz

28 Sep 2006 at 12:14 - 66

Agree 100% with Baz.

Mr_T_bot

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28 Sep 2006 at 12:14 - 67

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avarre

Are you seriously saying that you feel that the Fishmonger players aren't superior to you, when you have no Guild rank?

Sorry, but the communism revolution hasn't quite swept Tyria yet. Players with not only higher rank, but substantially higher rank aren't there because they're not good players. It's a meritocracy, and unless you can prove they aren't superior... well, they certainly do in that case have the right.

Sure it's not nice of them to act like that, but your rhetoric doesn't make it unjustified or deny them the the right.

I will tell you the same thing I tell every other PvP-elitist asshat who ventures into PvE areas, ie Grenth's Footprint: "Welcome to PvE, lamer."
Just because you are the wanna-be important guild and have some high GvG rank on this wanna-be ladder, doesn't mean you are better than me anywhere outside of a GvG match. You wanna start talking crap in PvE? You can haul your elitist face back to GvG.

Avarre

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28 Sep 2006 at 12:29 - 68

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Originally Posted by Mr_T_bot

I will tell you the same thing I tell every other PvP-elitist asshat who ventures into PvE areas, ie Grenth's Footprint: "Welcome to PvE, lamer."
Just because you are the wanna-be important guild and have some high GvG rank on this wanna-be ladder, doesn't mean you are better than me anywhere outside of a GvG match. You wanna start talking crap in PvE? You can haul your elitist face back to GvG.

You do know I'm a PvE'er, right?

Also, I'm justifying the actions of Fish. I have never said I treat other players with that attitude - when I'm doing group PvE, it's mainly for fun as I prefer to solo/hench.

Aegeroth

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28 Sep 2006 at 12:32 - 69

sorry i wasnt here to keep things in order
theres one point id like to clear up

I am not saying Fishmongers is a bad guild or bad people. I am saying it is very dissappointing to see people like *him* ruining the game for people like me. I never did anything to him, he shouldnt do anything to me.

As many previous people have said, just because your a higher rank than me you dont have the right to jump around shouting it out and putting in my face.

Avarre, communism is wrong. Im talking about his actions against me, yes, he probably does have a higher rank than me. But im talking about the attitude he displays because of it.

Also for Kook, yes i mentioned the guild at first but later removed it since i was notfied of the anti-name rule. Other players who read the post prior to the change carried it on.

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28 Sep 2006 at 12:36 - 70

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Originally Posted by Avarre

Sure it's not nice of them to act like that, but your rhetoric doesn't make it unjustified or deny them the the right.

I’m sorry but no one has the ‘right’ to talk down to me or any other player!

I believe it’s called good manners

Aegeroth

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28 Sep 2006 at 12:39 - 71

Thanks Baz, you see my view perfectly.

Im not saying people with high rank are bad.

Im saying people with attitude are bad for the community. In this case it was the power attained through GvG by *him* and he decided to use it against me.

Avarre

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28 Sep 2006 at 12:39 - 72

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Originally Posted by Aegeroth

Avarre, communism is wrong. Im talking about his actions against me, yes, he probably does have a higher rank than me. But im talking about the attitude he displays because of it.

Surely. His actions we're proper and I wouldn't say they were correct at all.

But he still has the right to do so. You also have the right to reply in any way you wish, and so on down the chain of comments.

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Originally Posted by baz777

I’m sorry but no one has the ‘right’ to talk down to me or any other player!

I believe it’s called good manners

Your post will become correct when manners constitute law. Until then, there's a right of speech and reply, unless it violates game rules.

Once again, people need to understand the difference between having the right and being right.

Aegeroth

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28 Sep 2006 at 12:43 - 73

Avarre whos to not to say i was at an internet cafe and he was too, and suddenly he started to say what he said from across the room?

A sudden difference? Yes? No?

Its wrong in all circumstances, just because its a game that doesnt mean you suddenly have "rights" to put people down.

And put yourself in my shoes, would you take it or dispute his actions among your peers?
If not then thats fine. Im just exploring possiblities for you to see my view.

Avarre

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28 Sep 2006 at 12:48 - 74

Actually, considering in the real world there IS a right to free speech, it would be even more within the 'law'.

However, balancing that it would also be a good deal more irritating. The best thing in either case would be to reply on your own accord rather than starting a thread - the topic of elitism has been brought up before and generally crashes back down.

To take on your analogy... if you were insulted by someone sitting across the room, would you really just go to a forum to start threads, or reply on your own?

Aegeroth

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28 Sep 2006 at 12:51 - 75

I did reply with my own words, but im just a concerned player who wants to "alert", if you will, that elitism is a mean thing, and really that having the rights to doing it is plain wrong.

But i didnt know of any previous elitism topics as i am rather new, sorry on that count.

Never during my time on guild wars had i seen someone put me down for doing nothing wrong at all! Ive been in cases of being the victim of remarks like "noob", but only because my own errors, in this case i did NOTHING wrong yet his elitism radiates on.

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28 Sep 2006 at 12:51 - 76

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avarre

Your post will become correct when manners constitute law. Until then, there's a right of speech and reply, unless it violates game rules

You need game games laws to force you have good manners and humility?

Sorry again, but that is the saddest thing I’ve read on this site!

There is a ‘right’ of speech but a good upbringing will have laid down certain boundaries and constraints to be observed – again, I believe it’s called good manners

Avarre

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28 Sep 2006 at 12:58 - 77

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aegeroth

But i didnt know of any previous elitism topics as i am rather new, sorry on that count.

They generally get closed and sent to the depths to die, so that's forgivable. The only reason this stands is well... not many people are talking, and nobody started flaming... well a few people, but not much.

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Originally Posted by baz777

You need game games laws to force you have good manners and humility?

Good job completely misunderstanding. If there was a game law, people would be forced to follow. Since there isn't, they can do as they want. As you're the one who basically declared 'no one has the ‘right’ to talk down to me', it would appear to be you operating under the assumption of game laws, and the one needing them.

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but a good upbringing will have laid down certain boundaries and constraints to be observed – again, I believe it’s called good manners

See the post you quoted. What makes you think you can be the one to define how other's can act? Whether they're polite or rude in their actions, you can't control them. You can only control how you react to the situation - you can ignore them, reply back, or you can barrage the thread with rhetoric in the hope of striking lucky on making a point.

Aegeroth

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28 Sep 2006 at 13:06 - 78

I myself am simply saying this Avarre:
Just because a simple task can not be performed with in your perferred time, why get angry? Why decide to use your rank as a weapon? Were all human and your rank doesnt give you the (and here we go) "right" to use it for putting me down.

Its not a matter of Politics or rules its a matter of one's reaction in situations where elitism can get involved. There are places where it can be accept - but definately not to put people down. Its probably fine in GvG arenas.
"Im better than you!"
not
"Im better than you! You suck noob! Cry with your s**t guild!"

taking it that far is wrong in that circumstance let alone the one i experienced.

Avarre

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28 Sep 2006 at 13:14 - 79

You do realize I'm not disagreeing with you that it's a lame thing for them to do - I'd give them hell over it. My point, which would have ended a long time ago if certain people didn't keep dragging it up with nonsense replies is that you can't argue over their right in doing it... relatively... you are a newbie guild (not to be harsh, but I don't think this is too much in question... note newbie as in lower rank/newer and not as in 'idiot').

You can, however, argue over the fact that they're being an ass. That, as precedent has shown, sends the thread to a flamewar and ends up closed.

For the record in any case... if I was dragged to a random team and asked to PvE in one of the (imo) most boring areas of Tyria, I'd hope things would be prepped and ready. Granted, I wouldn't go to those extremes... but people are different.

Aegeroth

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28 Sep 2006 at 13:21 - 80

But you dont question that they were an ass and were wrong for being so with their rank as a weapon?

I accept your call about being of lower rank, but please, see that it is wrong to be able to use rank as a weapon for abuse!

And as for trekkin of in to Silverwood or such, yes fine, skill wouldnt really matter. But this was Grenth's Footprint. I was told an SS and an MM were needed, being a curses necromancer i took my oppurtunity to do what i like, then *he* tells me *hes* the SS and that i have to change. Fine, i shall. But i took to long. I question why he threw me out and he replies angrily with Elitism. Thus this ensues.

At that i say goodnight for today.