Power goes to your Head

Yes because saying something means you are skilless.

So.. uhm... you're saying "higer ranked players" are *right* when abusing those who aren't?
Or what are you saying?

Despite the fact that the guy from Fishmongers IS a better player than you, and that his guild IS better than yours because of its rank, there are people who talk like that wherever you go. He at least had some evidence to back it up, there are many people who claim they are the best and are simply just all talk. If he's from Fish, then obviously is a good player, and as PvE is easier than PvP, he's probably good at SF as well.

I'm sorry, I didn't understand that.

EDIT: What I mean is, I don't understand who you're referring to. If who says something?

I'm not saying they're right or wrong. They can do as they wish.

Personally, I find it funny to pick on stupid people or people who pride in using cookie cutters.

@Malangyar

I'm saying you are wrong.

No. Just cause you are in a top guild doesn't make you a good player. You could be a pver in a top pvp guild, had your friend get you in.

Okay, well that's where we disagree. I don't believe they can do as they wish. I believe they should behave properly, just like any other player, regardless of skill.

Just because they've been playing the game for +6 more months than you, doesn't mean they have the right to insult you.

True, but I didn't see the guys name who was from Fish. It's possible it was one of those ebay pve noobs (or just pvers with too much money) who pay to get into top ranked guilds. If it WAS one of Fish's PvPers, then it's safe to assume they at least know how to play

They have the right to say anything to you. Whos saying they can't huh?

Load of animal droppings. Most of PvPers are so caught up in their PvP world and their 1337ness that they don't have a clue when playing PvE. A long time ago there I was in Mental Block guild and I was the member that played PvE the most. One time we decide to go SF farming /questing because the resident mesmer of the guild wanted Willcrusher for his PvE mesmer. Well, all those great PvP players ended up dieing under the crushers and raped by patrolling mobs because they didn't have a clue about SF and decided not to listen to me because I held the lowest amount of fame.

High rank does not make one a better, or even good, (PvE) player. That was true a year ago, and is even more true today after all those lame fame farming builds that people played for hours on end. kthx

Their are always one or two bad apples in a bunch. Remember a high ranked guild did not just get their because of one or two players, it was a team effort, and not everyone in the guild alway partisapates in guild tornaments. I would serously doubt that this player was a player who is active in his guild when it comes to GvG tornaments given his atittude, he is probably just a member that supports his guild mates. However if not, then that shows just what kind of guild they are, and they maybe high ranked, but will never make it to the pro's as good sportmanship is a criteria in which pro guilds are judge. It's in the rules.

ANet. I'm pretty sure they talk about insults and abuse in their guidelines.

THOUGH if we're talking about arrogant behavior and whatnot, which ANet can hardly start punishing without banning most of the gamers, they can get away with it, yes. Still it is MY PERSONAL OPINION (Apparently this has to be cut out in obsidian. You would think it was only logical...) that people should not have a right to behave like fools just because they have a higher rank.

While the behaviour of the person from [Fish] is in question, there is no argument that you should listen to him, in logic, since the knowledge he would provide would only benefit you. He's also allowed to yell at you, but that doesn't mean it's socially accepted behaviour.

It is a fact that they are superior to you in PvP, for sure. PvP players usually know PvE well enough, although not always, and many PvP strategies also apply very well to PvE. Listen to him, and phrase out the bad bits.




By the way, did you retort (?grammar?)?

Fame = nothing.

Actually, that's untrue. It's a fact that PvE isn't hard. Everyone knows that, you can finish Prophecies and Factions with henchmen. I was simply saying that because it's not difficult, the Fish guy would have been able to do the run easily. It's a rarity to see high ranked GvG teams nowdays without 15k armor, or at least SOME PvE gear. This means that they must have played PvE at least once, so they aren't going to play stupidly or anything.

In your case, the team dying to the Crushers is your fault, as you should have informed them about what they do (you being the best PvEr, as you stated).

Firstly, the thread was discussing Fishmongers, who are high ranked in GvG. Last time I checked, you can't get fame from GvG. Secondly, as Fish play Balanced builds, then yes, they would be good at PvE, because you would carry similar logic over to PvE in terms of making a build. Yes people who farm fame play the same build over and over, and possibly aren't as good at PvE as others, but this thread is discussing Fish, who don't farm fame. Check facts next time plx?

True. And there's always morons, idiots and other sorts of attention RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOs. You'll see them running around in fissure armored warriors, pinging their crystallines, fellblades and sephis axes, randomly emoting tigers and pidgeons in front of people and/or abusing others just because of their guild tag. It all comes down to what kind of person the player is.



edit: Omfg, I just love this american "politically correct" c.r.a.p. that adds "GO RED ENGINE".

Well. I'd like to see anet doing something about this behaviour then. Otherwise I'd have been suspended at least once. But oh no, too busy getting NF ready. Just want money.

I'll try to sum it up in:

There's no refuting the fact that they're more experienced and superior in the game than you. However, that being an excuse for bad behaviour is another matter entirely.

PvE chars in PvP are FTW. Are we going to continue stating the obvious or start discussing normally?

I did inform them. Twice. On vent. Crushers were a funny moment because we laughed about it and even started thinking of how coll it wold be if some altar maps had crushers on them.

The only fact that's important here is player abusing the other player for not switching his runes/skills in a timely manner the sbuser thought was sufficient. Flaming and insulting someone for taking care to equip and skill properly instead of loading the mission with "GOGOGOGO" is both rude and stupid. Those are the facts. kthx

So true!! I do not disagree there, you will always run into A55HOLES!!!

If you want to have fun, try telling that to someone in [MATH] or any other iway/rspike/spirit spam/bspike fame farmer.