Power goes to your Head

lord catos

lord catos

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

netherlands

guild leader off skull warriors of chaos [SW]

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Some nice debate going one,
But its go over nothing.
Some wan have a higher rank, nice fore him.
Hey is better than you me oke.
But we all start like noobies, and have to luring what build the best fore you ore your team is.
The point is, let them talk and lissen from some wan ho give some good advices
(On a normal way).

Coridan

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Song Rui
Elitists know what they are doing. -.-
^^TOO Funny who says they are elite??? Pretty sure they were not in the World Championship....let me know when they are and then i will consider them elite...........

LOL these guys from ...Fish...is it...must be so damm elite that I have never heard of them. I have been playing for over 6 months and to my ELITE(:P) recollection i have never once heard of them mentioned anywhere before...

Flame away..I am done with this post as it is nothing but flame 1 to flame 2 back to flame 1 so here comes flame 3 blah

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aegeroth
But you dont question that they were an ass and were wrong for being so with their rank as a weapon?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
You do realize I'm not disagreeing with you that it's a lame thing for them to do - I'd give them hell over it.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Coridan
LOL these guys from ...Fish...is it...must be so damm elite that I have never heard of them. I have been playing for over 6 months and to my ELITE(:P) recollection i have never once heard of them mentioned anywhere before...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aegeroth
But this was Grenth's Footprint.
It's not really that hard to warrant build speccing, in my opinion. To each his own...

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being a curses necromancer i took my oppurtunity to do what i like, then *he* tells me *hes* the SS and that i have to change. Fine, i shall. But i took to long. I question why he threw me out and he replies angrily with Elitism. Thus this ensues.
He can say that all he wants, as I said, your choice is your reply. If someone from a higher guild speaks to you like that, and you're blameless as far as you can see... they're not worth your trouble.

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

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Fish finished 2nd on the ladder last season, and have been relatively successful in HA too.

I have been saying the same thing as Avarre, why doesn't anyone get it? Yes it was bad for him to say he's better than you. But there's no rule saying he can't. If I wanted to, I could sit here and say "I'm richer than you, you suck at PvE", or "I'm higher rank than you, you suck at PvP", and thats fine. I have the right to say it, and there aren't any rules against it. It's not an issue of if it's true or not, because for all you know it could be, but the fact is, I could say it and despite me being an ass, there's no reason for me not to.

baz777

baz777

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

South East England

Leader: Lady Hairy Armpits S[mell]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
They generally get closed and sent to the depths to die, so that's forgivable. The only reason this stands is well... not many people are talking, and nobody started flaming... well a few people, but not much.



Good job completely misunderstanding. If there was a game law, people would be forced to follow. Since there isn't, they can do as they want. As you're the one who basically declared 'no one has the ‘right’ to talk down to me', it would appear to be you operating under the assumption of game laws, and the one needing them.



See the post you quoted. What makes you think you can be the one to define how other's can act? Whether they're polite or rude in their actions, you can't control them. You can only control how you react to the situation - you can ignore them, reply back, or you can barrage the thread with rhetoric in the hope of striking lucky on making a point.

I think it’s you missing the point I’m making here, (reading above a few others have got it).

My interaction with people, real life or in game, (I do not differentiate), is based upon a moral code of behaviour that I was fortunate enough to be taught from an early age. The majority of people on GW have also been fortunate in this respect but a few unfortunately always ‘slip the net’

It is only a game after all, but the interaction with other people is real and that’s the point I’m making!

Maybe it’s just me, but I do not talk down to people, I try my hardest to be polite, patient, and considerate under ‘all’ circumstances.

Maybe it’s because I’m somewhat older than the average game player, but I do not want to believe this to be the case.

You are right, if I do meet people in game with a bad attitude then I simply ignore them. Fortunately, in my experience, most players are friendly and polite and this interaction is, for me, what makes GW a pleasurable and enjoyable experience.

The OP has a made a valid point and, on the whole, a reasonable discussion has resulted.

The OP should accept these attitudes as a sad fact of life and, like me, should both pity them, and perversely, find somewhat amusing.

Tark Alkerk

Tark Alkerk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

In a Black Hole

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in my humble opioion i think this thread has gone on far to long about an arguement between two players which genreally invloves of "your a jerk" "no your a jerk". in other words you can argue until the cows come home about such a topic, but having a higher guild rank does mean that you are better at gvg, but since the orignal poster mentioned that the only reason why he was called a noob was because he was slow to "reskill" this arguement seems pointless. some guy says your a noob for being slow to reskill in pve, meh just laugh it off, gaming is for relaxing, correct me if i am wrong, so it isn't really worth argueing the toss, when the usual outcome is just going to be " your a n00b", "no your an eliteist arse" and so on.

The Herbalizer

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coridan
^^TOO Funny who says they are elite??? Pretty sure they were not in the World Championship....let me know when they are and then i will consider them elite...........

LOL these guys from ...Fish...is it...must be so damm elite that I have never heard of them. I have been playing for over 6 months and to my ELITE(:P) recollection i have never once heard of them mentioned anywhere before...

Flame away..I am done with this post as it is nothing but flame 1 to flame 2 back to flame 1 so here comes flame 3 blah
They are like #12 in the world... Im pretty sure people who play in their gvgs are skilled as getting high rank is not exactly easy. It could be argued that their players who participate in the gvgs are good players / experienced players. Maybe the person is not involved in gvgs. Atm we dont know all the facts.

Remember all that we dont know the full story. It is only one person's side of the argument and it could be biased. Maybe he/she took like 5 mins to try and set his skills while they waited only to say they need to start again after they start as he messed up... The first post is hardly well laid out or easy to read either and first impressions are meant to say alot about a person....

joncoish

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Doesn't matter whether they have the right or not, the fact is anyone who acts like that is an asshole plain and simple. Why would anyone even get on like that because of a game? It just makes them look like a 10 year old.

Omega X

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
Good job completely misunderstanding. If there was a game law, people would be forced to follow. Since there isn't, they can do as they want.
Umm... Isn't there something called the Rules Of Conduct....

http://guildwars.com/support/legal/rulesofconduct.php

Particularly #3.

Anet does enforce these. Very well I might add.

People tend to forget that this is a privately owned operation and has additional rules than what the federal government covers.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Quote:
Originally Posted by baz777
I think it’s you missing the point I’m making here, (reading above a few others have got it).
Let me simplify some things then...

There are two camps here. There are those that find such a statement a terrible insult, and those that would just disregard it because those people really aren't worth your trouble.

The people that seem to be all up in offence over this are the ones that believe they have a right to not be spoken to. You're entitled to your view of other people, but people that follow the point me and Talon hold... we'll be laughing to ourselves as we recognize the person can drivel about how they are superior... and we simply have no reason to care.

Your ideas are fine, but assuming others have no right to speak in such ways is what's causing you problems and offence; and it's just going to cause more trouble than to accept that people can and will be like that, and then dealing with it in your choice of ways.

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Originally Posted by Omega X
Umm... Isn't there something called the Rules Of Conduct..
Sorry, but the offensive remark here wouldn't fall under any of them. Namely being, if such singular remarks were an offence against the Code of Conduct, the vast majority of every MMO population would cease to exist.

Sure, you could try to get him on that charge, but considering how relatively minor this is... I doubt you'd get anywhere.

UBS

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Earth

Mo/Me

People in top-ranked guilds are big headed, it's a fact. Some guy in HA [unranked] from Rus Corp was looking for a r9+ group, stating he was in rus corp.

Legendary Shiz

Legendary Shiz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coridan
^^TOO Funny who says they are elite??? Pretty sure they were not in the World Championship....let me know when they are and then i will consider them elite...........

LOL these guys from ...Fish...is it...must be so damm elite that I have never heard of them. I have been playing for over 6 months and to my ELITE(:P) recollection i have never once heard of them mentioned anywhere before...

Flame away..I am done with this post as it is nothing but flame 1 to flame 2 back to flame 1 so here comes flame 3 blah
<3 people that talk with 0 clue what they're saying. Have you ever looked at a gvg ladder? They're like top 15 right now.

To be honest, this thread should be closed. All it is, is noobs ganging up with each other because they're upset that they aren't nearly as good as other people in the game. And they get so worked up, because somebody that is obviously better than them let's them know that. The majority of GW is PvE noob garbage players. This thread seems to be their monthly meeting to rage because they can't get their r3, or got turned down by a high ranked GvG guild.

Sorry if this thread seems a bit angry, but to be honest...if a guy from Fish want's to call you a noob...he's earned the right, or you earned the title.

Senator Tom

Senator Tom

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

California

[Dark]

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Did he hurt your feelings?
Don't complain about what someone said to you if its not true.
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Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

This thread is really going nowhere with insults.