I noticed, watching the most recent footage from Nightfall, Mhenlo in the combat scenes. At one point, his name (along with Aidan's) was visible in the party menu, showing him as a "healer henchman".
Aidan's rather a non-entity, and I have nothing against him, but after putting up with Mhenlo forgetting his place and pretending to be the hero all through Factions, seeing him in Elona frankly sickens me.
Players spent most of Factions being forced to play second-fiddle to the awesomeness that was the multiple-girlfriend-bearing, friend-of-all, Mhenlo.
"What are we going to DO?!?" cries my character in despair, turning to SuperMhenlo for guidance.
ACK!
I'd like MY character to be the hero, this time around, thank you very much.
Really, I'd love to have the folks that wrote Factions in the same room with me so I could kick them for forgetting who the star of any video game SHOULD be. (Hint: The players.)
So, although nobody's going to, someone PLEASE tell me Mhenlo's not really in the plot, won't be showing up in cutscenes, and is purely available as a henchman that I can happily leave back in town, crying in his beer, as I go save the day.
For the love of all that's holy, tell me...
Mhenlo; Is there no escape?
Rhedd
Manic Smile
Maybe it's time Mhenlo had a little accident...
"Hey Mhenlo there's a large brested small close wearing elegirl all brused up from a gang of thrusting warriors"..."you must save here over here in the ally"..."in the back of the ally"
"Hey Mhenlo there's a large brested small close wearing elegirl all brused up from a gang of thrusting warriors"..."you must save here over here in the ally"..."in the back of the ally"
WhiteZombie
mhenlo never passes up the oppertunity to sample exotic women. why do you think he was in ascalon in the first place? 
Gonzo
They really need to make Mhenlo into something you can hit.
- with a really big bat.
- with a really big bat.
Jaml
Bah. You´re all just jealous cause Mhenlo gets all the hot girls. Violent brutes that kill everything that moves like you and the other henchies probably aren´t what girls are looking for ^^
Well99
So we get to go thru another game where he uses his elite "Spam With Staff"
ability.Guess it could be worse and we could have Master Togo.Alway remember how tough a time he had against the 1st and 2nd lev bugs to get to minsters place on Pre island.Gave me a good laugh.
Disclaimer:On first cup of coffee so may later deny any silly comments.
ability.Guess it could be worse and we could have Master Togo.Alway remember how tough a time he had against the 1st and 2nd lev bugs to get to minsters place on Pre island.Gave me a good laugh.
Disclaimer:On first cup of coffee so may later deny any silly comments.
Lynxius
Mhenlo picks up the soap.
I hope players have a more important role in terms of story, not just the suporter of mhenlo/togo like in factions.
I hope players have a more important role in terms of story, not just the suporter of mhenlo/togo like in factions.
cataphract
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Mhenlo picks up the soap.
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Amity and Truth
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Originally Posted by cataphract
After Rurik dropped it?
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cataphract
Oh, you haven't seen Rurik Drops The [sOap] guild then?
Hyaon
Hmm is it true that you can't command Plot NPC what to do on the radar? Cos......if so, it's THK allll over again.
Reks
Even if you hated him in Factions, you couldn't argue with having another (free)monk in the party. Plus, him being in Nightfall is probably ANet's way to advertise Prophecies.
Vahn Roi
Mhenlo is the coolest NPC ever...period.
Lady Lozza
Oh no, my ele was crazy in love with the interrupt henchie, Daemon. Understandable too since his "1337 skillz" allowed her to complete Unwaking with 15 henchies when no one else was around.
Stemnin
Mhenlo is the best, just wished he didnt have healing breeze.. heal other ftw..
Gedrand
I definitely feel we could all use some more Dunham.
Awesome post, Rhedd! That's a very interesting point, though, about the Factions storyline. I didn't feel like I was doing anything important. In Prophesies I was The Man, but in Factions I had to find Togo, then follow him around, then follow Mhenlo, assist Danica, use the Spear/Urn, get special powers from Kuunevang... I never felt like I was making a difference. I just wasn't engaged like I was in Prophecies, where I was an uber-mighty hero.
I have high hopes and some confidence for Nightfall, though. From what I saw, the game was more engaging, and I haven't run across Mhenny yet. *crosses fingers*
Our own characters and the Heroes we recruit seem to be prominent from what I saw of Nightfall during the preview event.
Awesome post, Rhedd! That's a very interesting point, though, about the Factions storyline. I didn't feel like I was doing anything important. In Prophesies I was The Man, but in Factions I had to find Togo, then follow him around, then follow Mhenlo, assist Danica, use the Spear/Urn, get special powers from Kuunevang... I never felt like I was making a difference. I just wasn't engaged like I was in Prophecies, where I was an uber-mighty hero.
I have high hopes and some confidence for Nightfall, though. From what I saw, the game was more engaging, and I haven't run across Mhenny yet. *crosses fingers*
Our own characters and the Heroes we recruit seem to be prominent from what I saw of Nightfall during the preview event.
Kais Unduli
As Gedrand stated, so far your hero seems to be the focus in Nightfall. Everyone follows your lead. Let's hope it continues through the rest of the campaign.
EPO Bot
It's al about the main character of the moment i think.
In Prophesies Devona seemed to be the central npc friend, in factions it was al about Mhenlo.
I hope they will give Aidan some importance now, since he was almost invisible in Factions, even wile in your party.
Whatever happens, the bald boy will probably have another girlfriend in Elonia, and Cynn will be pissed again.
And Eve will probably complain about sunburns.
In Prophesies Devona seemed to be the central npc friend, in factions it was al about Mhenlo.
I hope they will give Aidan some importance now, since he was almost invisible in Factions, even wile in your party.
Whatever happens, the bald boy will probably have another girlfriend in Elonia, and Cynn will be pissed again.
And Eve will probably complain about sunburns.
Tommy
does cynn have affair with him? isn't him a monk!? can he do that!?
EPO Bot
As far as i know, GW monks have no vows of chastity.
Tough i always feel more inclined to give cute pink monk girls a lollypop instead of wanting to do you-know-what them.
Tough i always feel more inclined to give cute pink monk girls a lollypop instead of wanting to do you-know-what them.
Infinity^
Mhenlo is like James Bond in Tyrian Armour.
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Cicada Sopita
Hopefully the fact that we are supposed to be Sunspear-leaders-in-training actually means that in the plotline we aren't used as additional henchmen, while an npc takes the leading role. Might be too much to hope for that Mhenlo would actually follow our orders, though
Electric Sky
I dont know what other girls think of him, but i like Mhenlo, he is a cute monk
Clord
Battle planning in final mission's cutscene. Mhenlo storm in, take a lead and your character says "Okay".
EPO Bot
Btw: Devona should really quit telling everyone about how her dad was the best thing evar.
She's the kind of girl that gazes at a guy, asks herself the question "Is he just as awesome as father?" and then concludes "Impossible", no matter how much ass he kicks. Devona will end up old in a house full of cats.
She's the kind of girl that gazes at a guy, asks herself the question "Is he just as awesome as father?" and then concludes "Impossible", no matter how much ass he kicks. Devona will end up old in a house full of cats.
Turbo Wombat
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Tough i always feel more inclined to give cute pink monk girls a lollypop instead of wanting to do you-know-what them.
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Originally Posted by GloryFox
Here little monkete want some candy?
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"Screw candy, get me some freaking Jack!"
I can't wait for the day I see this play out...
Evilsod
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Hopefully the fact that we are supposed to be Sunspear-leaders-in-training actually means that in the plotline we aren't used as additional henchmen, while an npc takes the leading role. Might be too much to hope for that Mhenlo would actually follow our orders, though
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Although tbh as long as he does better than Khim does, i don't care... Khim SUCKS.
I wonder how many chapters we'll go though before Mhenlo starts calling people his 'totty'
Former Ruling
In Nightfall you are already not "The One and Only Hero that Saves the Day".
You are, atleast for the first part of the game, led by the Sunspears and you follow their every little whim like a good little soldier, and the NPCs you SUPPOSEDLY have control over, you actually DONT from a Story-side point of view. They are "Heros" themselves with their own agendas and are grouped up with you ONLY to fulfill their own goals.
You are, atleast for the first part of the game, led by the Sunspears and you follow their every little whim like a good little soldier, and the NPCs you SUPPOSEDLY have control over, you actually DONT from a Story-side point of view. They are "Heros" themselves with their own agendas and are grouped up with you ONLY to fulfill their own goals.
Bankai
I can't wait to find out who's Mhenlo's girlfriend this time.
Maybe the dervish hero? Would be fun, since she had something with Koss probably.
Maybe the dervish hero? Would be fun, since she had something with Koss probably.
Giga Strike
i dont think mhenlo is going to get another girl in nightfall too, some of the ones from factions will probably carry over.
as far as mhenlo being in nightfall, it is all as i predicted. mhenlo, devona, aidan, and cynn are the main characters, they can't just leave them out. i'm going to like what eve has to say in desolation though.
as far as mhenlo being in nightfall, it is all as i predicted. mhenlo, devona, aidan, and cynn are the main characters, they can't just leave them out. i'm going to like what eve has to say in desolation though.
Rhedd
You know, I'm not really talking about how cute Mhenlo is (he's quite cute), or how good his skill set is (it sucks, just like all the other henchmen). I'm not really even talking about Mhenlo at all, if you get right down to it. He just happens to be the unfortunate object of the Faction plot-writer's creepy obsession.
It doesn't matter how cute or skilled an NPC is, they're NPCs. They don't care one bit how cool they look in the plot. They don't exist. I do. You do. WE should be made to look and feel cool in the plot. Not treated like first-year students at a boarding school.
Here's an example that doesn't involve Mhenlo at all. Anyone remember this?
Three-quarters of the way through a Faction mission, the arrogant elementalist HENCHMAN says, "I sure wish we would've brought someone who could actually fight."
Togo, the kind master, replies, "Yeah, but do your best anyway."
Gee... I feel SO special now. Really, I do. Just special.
No kids I know play Star Wars and pretend to be that guy in the grey hat driving the little cart around the starship hangar bay. We all want to be heroes, not treated like noobs by NPCs that can't fight (or act) their way out of a paper bag.
Anyway, from what I saw of the Nightfall weekend (all of it), it looks MUCH better. Really, I loved every minute of it.
Sure I'm a soldier following orders, but I'm an elite soldier, following a grand tradition. I save a village in the first five minutes, and everyone is in awe from that point on. The only person that treats me like dirt is known far and wide to be a total jerk. It might not be perfect, but it's way better. I was really looking forward to it.
Seeing that Mhenlo, the undeniable SUPERSTAR of Factions, had followed me to Elona, just makes me very worried. I'd love to know what to expect before actually buying the game.
And, as far as the Mhenlo, Devona, etc. people being "main characters", so you can't leave them out... What?? Anyone want to explain to me WHY they're main characters? Funny, I thought the players were the main characters.
Silly me. I must just be old-fashoned. >_>
It doesn't matter how cute or skilled an NPC is, they're NPCs. They don't care one bit how cool they look in the plot. They don't exist. I do. You do. WE should be made to look and feel cool in the plot. Not treated like first-year students at a boarding school.
Here's an example that doesn't involve Mhenlo at all. Anyone remember this?
Three-quarters of the way through a Faction mission, the arrogant elementalist HENCHMAN says, "I sure wish we would've brought someone who could actually fight."
Togo, the kind master, replies, "Yeah, but do your best anyway."
Gee... I feel SO special now. Really, I do. Just special.
No kids I know play Star Wars and pretend to be that guy in the grey hat driving the little cart around the starship hangar bay. We all want to be heroes, not treated like noobs by NPCs that can't fight (or act) their way out of a paper bag.
Anyway, from what I saw of the Nightfall weekend (all of it), it looks MUCH better. Really, I loved every minute of it.
Sure I'm a soldier following orders, but I'm an elite soldier, following a grand tradition. I save a village in the first five minutes, and everyone is in awe from that point on. The only person that treats me like dirt is known far and wide to be a total jerk. It might not be perfect, but it's way better. I was really looking forward to it.
Seeing that Mhenlo, the undeniable SUPERSTAR of Factions, had followed me to Elona, just makes me very worried. I'd love to know what to expect before actually buying the game.
And, as far as the Mhenlo, Devona, etc. people being "main characters", so you can't leave them out... What?? Anyone want to explain to me WHY they're main characters? Funny, I thought the players were the main characters.
Silly me. I must just be old-fashoned. >_>
Gigashadow
Mhenlo for the lose. There's a new sherriff in town. His name is Koss.
Y'all soon forget about Mhenlo now.
Y'all soon forget about Mhenlo now.
My Sweet Revenga
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Maybe it's time Mhenlo had a little accident...
"Hey Mhenlo there's a large brested small close wearing elegirl all brused up from a gang of thrusting warriors"..."you must save here over here in the ally"..."in the back of the ally" |
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"Screw candy, get me some freaking Jack!" I can't wait for the day I see this play out... |
Rathcail
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Originally Posted by Rhedd
And, as far as the Mhenlo, Devona, etc. people being "main characters", so you can't leave them out... What?? Anyone want to explain to me WHY they're main characters? Funny, I thought the players were the main characters.
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I doubt they will change how Factions story works for those who arrive from future chapters. And what's the first thing you see when you get to Cantha? Mhenlo thanking you, his old friend, for coming to help him.
So unless that changes or if Anet doesn't care about story making sense, Mhenlo's group will be in every chapter.
Clord
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You know, I'm not really talking about how cute Mhenlo is (he's quite cute), or how good his skill set is (it sucks, just like all the other henchmen). I'm not really even talking about Mhenlo at all, if you get right down to it. He just happens to be the unfortunate object of the Faction plot-writer's creepy obsession.
It doesn't matter how cute or skilled an NPC is, they're NPCs. They don't care one bit how cool they look in the plot. They don't exist. I do. You do. WE should be made to look and feel cool in the plot. Not treated like first-year students at a boarding school. Here's an example that doesn't involve Mhenlo at all. Anyone remember this? Three-quarters of the way through a Faction mission, the arrogant elementalist HENCHMAN says, "I sure wish we would've brought someone who could actually fight." Togo, the kind master, replies, "Yeah, but do your best anyway." Gee... I feel SO special now. Really, I do. Just special. No kids I know play Star Wars and pretend to be that guy in the grey hat driving the little cart around the starship hangar bay. We all want to be heroes, not treated like noobs by NPCs that can't fight (or act) their way out of a paper bag. Anyway, from what I saw of the Nightfall weekend (all of it), it looks MUCH better. Really, I loved every minute of it. Sure I'm a soldier following orders, but I'm an elite soldier, following a grand tradition. I save a village in the first five minutes, and everyone is in awe from that point on. The only person that treats me like dirt is known far and wide to be a total jerk. It might not be perfect, but it's way better. I was really looking forward to it. Seeing that Mhenlo, the undeniable SUPERSTAR of Factions, had followed me to Elona, just makes me very worried. I'd love to know what to expect before actually buying the game. And, as far as the Mhenlo, Devona, etc. people being "main characters", so you can't leave them out... What?? Anyone want to explain to me WHY they're main characters? Funny, I thought the players were the main characters. Silly me. I must just be old-fashoned. >_> |
HolyHawk
Our characters were merely shadows from Mehnlo in factions; I was fine with that, after we got to do something-you-know-what- with Rurick. I really like Devona on the other hand; Cynn just doesn't fit a main role, and Aidan ... does he talk? I do hope that in nightfall we play with the heroes equaly, shinning here and there sometimes. IMO, make frog nightfall's main hero =x
Quid Pro Quo
I always had the feeling like your character was part of the group that Mhenlo, Devonna, Aidan, Cynn and Eve were in. So they are the main characters along with you.
Vahn Roi
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does cynn have affair with him? isn't him a monk!? can he do that!?
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Age
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Originally Posted by Stemnin
Mhenlo is the best, just wished he didnt have healing breeze.. heal other ftw..
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