Guild Wars Super Fan Contest

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

http://www.guildwars.com/events/cont...llsuperfan.php

Quote:
Originally Posted by Website
Do you live and breathe Guild Wars? Do you hunt Charr in your dreams? Have you exchanged more words with Master Togo than with your family members? Do you have the Nightfall release date marked in permanent ink on your forehead? In short, are you a Guild Wars Super Fan? Well, this news is for you!
I'm...not sure how to respond to those accusations.

However, there is a limit of 50 words to your request to ArenaNet. That's a bit restricting.

Also:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Website
Eligibility (age): As of October 1, 2006, contestants must be 21 years of age or older. (We're really sorry, but this restriction is necessary!) Proof of identity will be required before entering the party.
I saw no booze in the introduction...is there booze?!

Two April Mornings

Two April Mornings

No Luck No Time No Money

Join Date: Nov 2005

Amherst College, MA

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Me/

21, what!?
Damn America..sounded like a good contest otherwise.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Two April Mornings
21, what!?
Damn America..sounded like a good contest otherwise.
Of course, it's ironic that the age requirement will eliminate about half the entries.

Elena

Elena

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Belgium

blam age limitation

Linkusmax

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Curse you America and your silly silly drinking age. I just turned 19 and if this was held somewhere with a sensible age limit I would have entered.

Coridan

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

W/

This is what cracked me up..


"Canadian residents who are selected will be required to answer an additional mathematical question in order to claim their prizes."

WTF>>>>

Roshi_ikkyu

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/W

Anyone know how much a flight from Australia to Seattle would cost... seems we haven't found map travel yet.


Quote:
Eligibility (location): Canadian residents who are selected will be required to answer an additional mathematical question in order to claim their prizes.
If you have 2 charr warriors + Prince Rurik x 4 Adventures, how many hours would you have to grind before getting a black dye drop?

wtf.

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Heya,

First, I wish that we could pay for transportation, but honestly, that would be really spendy. So yes, this contest is aimed towards those who are able to travel, or more particularly those who are local. I'm really sorry. I hope that all who attend will write stories and generally share the wonder of the night with you.

Secondly, that "Canadian bit." Well, it seems that a certain province in Canada has a restriction that people cannot win on the basis of a submitted and judged entry. Or maybe they can and the attorney who reviewed this contest--yep, lawyer reviewed and attorney approved!--didn't realize this wasn't a random drawing. Anyway, we'll do a math question if someone from that province enters, and if they win. (It's rather far away, so it's not real likely that there will be that many who enter from there.)

Lastly, age limitations. I know it sucks. You know it sucks. I know that a positively huge number of the most passionate players of our game are not 21+. (I've told the story of my best gaming partner in WarCraft III being just 13 or 14 when we were blazing a trail in 4 v 4. He'd not even be able to attend this party yet!) Anyway, I wish more than anything that we could include sub-21's, but again it's sort of a legal thing and I am sorry. No disrespect intended, I promise!

It's going to be a nice party. I hope that we'll have a ton of entries and I'll try to sneak more in the ba... I mean I'll be sure to keep it to 12. Aye, right!

Hey, I just noticed that I didn't write that each winner could bring a guest! Ok, I'm going to see if the Web Team can make a change -- that will make it a lot more fun, if everyone knows he/she can bring a guest/friend/significant other along!

Soooooo.... Am I going to see any Guruites there?

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

(SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi

OMFG WTF that is not cool. so not right at all. this SUXORS badly i so have to work cant get there and yes im over 21, and the damnest thing is get this guys

ITS MY BIRTHDAY THAT DAY

i do not find this funny at all. nope not at all. just not fair. cant you guys at Anet bring it closer to MICHIGAN i so wanna be there.

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by manitoba1073
OMFG WTF that is not cool. so not right at all. this SUXORS badly i so have to work cant get there and yes im over 21, and the damnest thing is get this guys

ITS MY BIRTHDAY THAT DAY

i do not find this funny at all. nope not at all. just not fair. cant you guys at Anet bring it closer to MICHIGAN i so wanna be there.
Aw, heck!

Hey, if I had it my way, we'd do a Guild Wars road trip and make, say, a dozen stops around the country, visiting with fans, listening to their ideas, answering questions, playing a few matches or missions...

Anyway, maybe Michigan someday!

Roshi_ikkyu

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Soooooo.... Am I going to see any Guruites there?
If you move it to Australia, I'll be there... but since that's unlikely, just have a drink for me (real reason for the 21 age cap isn't it )

Quote:
Originally Posted by manitoba1073
OMFG WTF that is not cool. so not right at all. this SUXORS badly i so have to work cant get there and yes im over 21, and the damnest thing is get this guys

ITS MY BIRTHDAY THAT DAY

i do not find this funny at all. nope not at all. just not fair. cant you guys at Anet bring it closer to MICHIGAN i so wanna be there.
lol that does suck. But your not the only one feeling the suxorness, I think 80% of the community will aswell

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Aw, heck!

Hey, if I had it my way, we'd do a Guild Wars road trip and make, say, a dozen stops around the country, visiting with fans, listening to their ideas, answering questions, playing a few matches or missions...

Anyway, maybe Michigan someday!
You could do that, only if you kick Alex in his butt to do the same in Oz!

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

(SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi

i know , wasnt really mad. just thought it was funny myself

Roshi_ikkyu

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by manitoba1073
i know , wasnt really mad. just thought it was funny myself
Keep it up maybe you'll get a B'day present. and then you can sell it for 20k! mawahahahahaha
oh and happy b'day early but this way I won't forget! :P

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

(SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roshi_ikkyu
Keep it up maybe you'll get a B'day present. and then you can sell it for 20k! mawahahahahaha
oh and happy b'day early but this way I won't forget! :P
never sell damn it never. my chars have gotten 5 and i have 5 more on the way in about a month

Roshi_ikkyu

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/W

Not even a Kuun for 100+ecto!

I did!

Sereng Amaranth

Sereng Amaranth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Amazon Basin [AB]

No love for Rhode Island? What's up with that?

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

(SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roshi_ikkyu
Not even a Kuun for 100+ecto!

I did!
i bought my kunni for 83 ectos so itd have to go for more

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

Actually the problem with this is that I occassionally travel for business. I also imagine that I'm not the only one.
Hypothetically if I were going to be in Seattle I still couldn't enter because I'm not a citizen... Also what about those on holidays? Those who are going to be close but technically aren't residents or citizens. They may be small numbers compared to the rest of the gaming population, but most people away on business are either given a few days to do whatever, or take annual leave to do whatever. It's kind of disappointing that the entries are so restricted in that manner. Proof of ability to attend would be much better. Or does the US have laws which state that these sorts of contests cannot be won by anyone outside of North America?

The only reason I am mentioning this is because I am sheduled to visit LA in January, and it crossed my mind that I'm far from the only one who travels inter-state, across the Pacific, even to Europe, for conferences and meetings. GW does have a huge adult player base.

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Lozza
Actually the problem with this is that I occassionally travel for business. I also imagine that I'm not the only one.
Hypothetically if I were going to be in Seattle I still couldn't enter because I'm not a citizen... Also what about those on holidays? Those who are going to be close but technically aren't residents or citizens. They may be small numbers compared to the rest of the gaming population, but most people away on business are either given a few days to do whatever, or take annual leave to do whatever. It's kind of disappointing that the entries are so restricted in that manner. Proof of ability to attend would be much better. Or does the US have laws which state that these sorts of contests cannot be won by anyone outside of North America?

The only reason I am mentioning this is because I am sheduled to visit LA in January, and it crossed my mind that I'm far from the only one who travels inter-state, across the Pacific, even to Europe, for conferences and meetings. GW does have a huge adult player base.
Hmmmm... you ask a good question. Obviously it's a legal thing, but I cannot really answer why it's that way. I know with other contests, like the Guild Emblem Contest, we'd LOVE for it to be truly "every country in the world," but each country can have specific laws and rules, and we don't have the resources, time, or even connections to have our contest rules reviewed in 100-200 countries. So we limit the entries to those countries in which we have legal representation, which I think is a real shame, but which I am told is necessary in a legal sense.

I guess that's why this is limited. We don't know if someone in Belize, Belgium, or Barbados is eligible to receive the party ticket, if he/she would need to pay taxes on the value of the beverages and food, etc. I know it sounds silly, but I am speculating that this is the reason for the regional boundaries of this contest. I have to tell you, if someone were able to afford to travel to attend from outside the region, and they were a winner, I'd try very hard to get them clearance to come to the event!

KoalaMeatPie

KoalaMeatPie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cute And Fluffy in My Tummy

Cult Classic [CC]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Heya,

(...)

Secondly, that "Canadian bit." Well, it seems that a certain province in Canada has a restriction that people cannot win on the basis of a submitted and judged entry. Or maybe they can and the attorney who reviewed this contest--yep, lawyer reviewed and attorney approved!--didn't realize this wasn't a random drawing. Anyway, we'll do a math question if someone from that province enters, and if they win. (It's rather far away, so it's not real likely that there will be that many who enter from there.)
Yes, I hate living in Quebec.

Basically you have to merit the win. You can't just enter a slip of paper an voila.

In all the judge Contests I have entered You did not need to answer a Mathimatical question, seeing as you can win on merit.

So lotteries need a Math question Answered, Art Gallery Contest, not.

Oh and the hardest question I have seen is basically:

4 x ((15x2) - 20) / 2 = ?

Seriously, it isn't.

I'm not entering because I have nothing else to do around there (that and money), if it was say, In or around Orange County, I could have dropped in on a Firend for a couple of days.

So, In the intrest of anybody else, don't make it hard... The people here arn't... wise. And those that are, are not entering the conest.

Vermilion Okeanos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

I will just have to say... Enjoy your party, I hope I see some of you in the bonus DVD of "Making of Nightfall" from collector edition... YOU BETTER LOOK PRETTY IN THE VIDEO! j/k no pressure (who would take pressure from a random person in an online forum anyway?)

Hmm, 5 days before my birthday O.o too bad.

Btw, who here actually live in washington state anyway? I am also under the impression that taxes there aren't so bad.

KoalaMeatPie

KoalaMeatPie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cute And Fluffy in My Tummy

Cult Classic [CC]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vermilion Okeanos
I will just have to say... Enjoy your party, I hope I see some of you in the bonus DVD of "Making of Nightfall" from collector edition... YOU BETTER LOOK PRETTY IN THE VIDEO! j/k no pressure (who would take pressure from a random person in an online forum anyway?)

Hmm, 5 days before my birthday O.o too bad.

Btw, who here actually live in washington state anyway? I am also under the impression that taxes there aren't so bad.
You're thinking Washington D.C.

Wrath Of Dragons

Wrath Of Dragons

Burninate Stuff

Join Date: Aug 2005

New Mexico

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by KoalaMeatPie (who then deleted post after realizing it was a silly question
Anyways, the contest is not held by Canadians, why would the Canadian *laws* be implicated?

Its there, but not inforced. Like that law in Calgary where each Bar must have a rail to tie your horses to.
Because the Canadian laws affect canadian citizens, and this allows Anet to reach out to other countries besides america


Quote:
Originally Posted by KoalaMeatPie
You're thinking Washington D.C.
Actually, a few states up in that corner of the country have no sales tax. I know montana is one, and theres another to the west of it, and it may be washington

or maybe im confused and its only montana


there go Koala
I always forget to say who posts these things. The "quote" botton was acting up

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Our Sales Taxes are in the Top 5 in the nation. I think it's 8.8% or 8.9% now.

Not that that has anything to do with the contest! Boy, you guys, way to highjack a thread!

Roshi_ikkyu

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/W

Can Gaile get kicked for derailing a thread XD

Shanaeri Rynale

Shanaeri Rynale

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

DVDF(Forums)

Me/N

In the UK it's 17.5% and in some scandinavian countries it's 25%.

Back on topic, pleeese can we have some contests that are open to the rest of the world. Guild Emblems, Design a Weapon, greatest GW fan and even the random acts of Kindness(no lawyers in Tyria, Shiro employed them all) are all American region only.

Kinda getting to the point where people think you dont like us Europeans/west of world

Alberic

Alberic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

United States

[AB]

R/

D'oh, that's a couple of months shy of my 21st birthday. Drat.

vinegrower

vinegrower

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Song of the Forsaken

E/

hehe, I live about 30 min north of Seattle, so I may just have to give this a go.

Raziel665

Raziel665

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

N/Mo

American only.... was to expected I guess.

Feminist Terrorist

Feminist Terrorist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Oh Noes! The 'burbs!

I mightcould hop a flight. It's not that far, really. That'd be cool if we could take a guest. I know just who I'd invite, and she'd have a ball, though she might wear the Anet employees out.

KoalaMeatPie

KoalaMeatPie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cute And Fluffy in My Tummy

Cult Classic [CC]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale
(...)

Kinda getting to the point where people think you dont like us Europeans/west of world
Eccept for the fact that you guys get a lot more bonus materials in your Packages. Fair trade off if you ask me.

Spellforge

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Guildless

N/

I'm in europe - so I can't enter , never mind , not going to moan

Any ETA for a Grey Giant for Europe ?

Mr_T_bot

Mr_T_bot

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

21? BS. The end.

Ron vo

Ron vo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

arizona

Insert Witty Guild Name

A/Me

...Age 21 required...Excuse me a moment *grabs a blow torch* you guys might want to NOT go to the fan site now

SPIRIT OF THE SEA

SPIRIT OF THE SEA

Banned

Join Date: May 2006

im like a hour away im gonna enter pray i win


btw gaile i got few questions and hope u can answer them.


1) will u be there?
2) Will it be a normal party or like LAn party for all GW?
3) How long will it be?



ty for ur time and i hope u can answer them gaile



also gaile wanna say sumthing U RULE!!!!!

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

http://www.guildwars.com/events/cont...kstagepass.php

It was 21 for that contest, why would this one be any different?

Could the next one be in Canada though, like Toronto to be specific... and after my birthday next year?

Manic Smile

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

----- 15^50[Rare] ---- Alliance: ----- [SMS] -----

now if I can just find 1000 dollars for that damn plain ticket...

I'll just fly in a day before and sleep in my car then fly out.

Quid Pro Quo

Quid Pro Quo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

God damnit, I practically live next door to Anet and have been tempted to knock on the door and see if they would let me in but that age restriction won't let me enter this contest.

Very dissapointing.

Rydier

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Trondheim

Black Widow

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
I guess that's why this is limited. We don't know if someone in Belize, Belgium, or Barbados is eligible to receive the party ticket, if he/she would need to pay taxes on the value of the beverages and food, etc. I know it sounds silly, but I am speculating that this is the reason for the regional boundaries of this contest. I have to tell you, if someone were able to afford to travel to attend from outside the region, and they were a winner, I'd try very hard to get them clearance to come to the event!
Trip for october 16. - 18. (from where I live): About 2.5k $
Same trip for december 16. - 18. : About 1.1k $

Morale: If you were really serious about considering people from outside the region despite what the rules say, please announce such competitions a bit earlier

Cjlr

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

SMS

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Secondly, that "Canadian bit." Well, it seems that a certain province in Canada has a restriction that people cannot win on the basis of a submitted and judged entry. Or maybe they can and the attorney who reviewed this contest--yep, lawyer reviewed and attorney approved!--didn't realize this wasn't a random drawing. Anyway, we'll do a math question if someone from that province enters, and if they win. (It's rather far away, so it's not real likely that there will be that many who enter from there.)
I believe I may be able to clarify that somewhat - presenting, from the Criminal Code of Canada:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Part VII of the Criminal Code of Canada
197. (1) In this Part,
“game” means a game of chance or mixed chance and skill;

202. (1) Every one commits an offence who

(b) imports, makes, buys, sells, rents, leases, hires or keeps, exhibits, employs or knowingly allows to be kept, exhibited or employed in any place under his control any device or apparatus for the purpose of recording or registering bets or selling a pool, or any machine or device for gambling or betting;
(c) has under his control any money or other property relating to a transaction that is an offence under this section;
(g) imports or brings into Canada any information or writing that is intended or is likely to promote or be of use in gambling, book-making, pool-selling or betting on a horse-race, fight, game or sport, and where this paragraph applies it is immaterial
(h) advertises, prints, publishes, exhibits, posts up, or otherwise gives notice of any offer, invitation or inducement to bet on, to guess or to foretell the result of a contest, or a result of or contingency relating to any contest;
(i) wilfully and knowingly sends, transmits, delivers or receives any message by radio, telegraph, telephone, mail or express that conveys any information relating to book-making, pool-selling, betting or wagering, or that is intended to assist in book-making, pool-selling, betting or wagering; or
(j) aids or assists in any manner in anything that is an offence under this section.

204. (1) Sections 201 and 202 do not apply to

(a) any person or association by reason of his or their becoming the custodian or depository of any money, property or valuable thing staked, to be paid to
(i) the winner of a lawful race, sport, game or exercise,
(ii) the owner of a horse engaged in a lawful race, or
(iii) the winner of any bets between not more than ten individuals;

206. (1) Every one is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years who

(a) makes, prints, advertises or publishes, or causes or procures to be made, printed, advertised or published, any proposal, scheme or plan for advancing, lending, giving, selling or in any way disposing of any property by lots, cards, tickets or any mode of chance whatever;
(b) sells, barters, exchanges or otherwise disposes of, or causes or procures, or aids or assists in, the sale, barter, exchange or other disposal of, or offers for sale, barter or exchange, any lot, card, ticket or other means or device for advancing, lending, giving, selling or otherwise disposing of any property by lots, tickets or any mode of chance whatever;
(d) conducts or manages any scheme, contrivance or operation of any kind for the purpose of determining who, or the holders of what lots, tickets, numbers or chances, are the winners of any property so proposed to be advanced, lent, given, sold or disposed of;

(5) Every sale, loan, gift, barter or exchange of any property, by any lottery, ticket, card or other mode of chance depending on or to be determined by chance or lot, is void, and all property so sold, lent, given, bartered or exchanged is forfeited to Her Majesty.

(7) This section applies to the printing or publishing, or causing to be printed or published, of any advertisement, scheme, proposal or plan of any foreign lottery, and the sale or offer for sale of any ticket, chance or share, in any such lottery, or the advertisement for sale of such ticket, chance or share, and the conducting or managing of any such scheme, contrivance or operation for determining the winners in any such lottery.

207. (1) Notwithstanding any of the provisions of this Part relating to gaming and betting, it is lawful

(a) for the government of a province, either alone or in conjunction with the government of another province, to conduct and manage a lottery scheme in that province, or in that and the other province, in accordance with any law enacted by the legislature of that province;
(b) for a charitable or religious organization, pursuant to a licence issued by the Lieutenant Governor in Council of a province or by such other person or authority in the province as may be specified by the Lieutenant Governor in Council thereof, to conduct and manage a lottery scheme in that province if the proceeds from the lottery scheme are used for a charitable or religious object or purpose;
(d) for any person, pursuant to a licence issued by the Lieutenant Governor in Council of a province or by such other person or authority in the province as may be specified by the Lieutenant Governor in Council thereof, to conduct and manage a lottery scheme at a public place of amusement in that province if
(i) the amount or value of each prize awarded does not exceed five hundred dollars, and
(ii) the money or other valuable consideration paid to secure a chance to win a prize does not exceed two dollars;
(f) for any person, pursuant to a licence issued by the Lieutenant Governor in Council of a province or such other person or authority in the province as may be designated by the Lieutenant Governor in Council thereof, to conduct and manage in the province a lottery scheme that is authorized to be conducted and managed in one or more other provinces where the authority by which the lottery scheme was first authorized to be conducted and managed consents thereto;
And that's the national stuff. Quebec is much more complicated.

Anyway, the end result is that in order to claim a prize from anyone not mentioned in section 207, the contest must not be one of chance but one of skill. Therefore we have our skill-testing question (which, by law, must have at least three operations). You don't win a prize; you win the opportunity to win by correctly answering a skill-testing question.

I think.

I'm no law-talking guy.