Can Faction chars start in Nightfall? - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

Ninna

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Northeast USA

Guilded Rose

Me/

01 Oct 2006 at 10:04 - 1

I assume the answer would be NO -- but I'm not so sure

I saw this commentary
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10047566

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calvein

The 15 september, Gaile said that we could create sin in GWN if we have Faction.

I suppose thats possible

whats known is...
- there will be an assassin hero
- there will be new assassin/rit armor
- there will be new assassin/rit skills
- I did see drops on the preview newbie isle that required communing

during the preview, I DID NOT see
- assassin/rit trainers on starting isle
- assassin/rit char select for Create

maybe we didnt see that during preview because *both* Nightfall and Factions are required?

I know Assassin and Rit are exclusive to Factions
- but what if you own both games?

Shoitaan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Australia

Tuskforce Supremacy [Tusk]

Me/N

01 Oct 2006 at 10:46 - 2

From what I know, the 2 new chars are exclusive to that campaign. So to make rit or assassin you must buy Factions. And that guy who you quoted does not himself make an exact quote of text or a pic.. its like "I heard John say [something]" so I wouldn't put much credibility in it.

What I know of what Gaile did say was that Assassins and rits were getting new skills in Nightfall (which we all know is true thanks to the PvE preview). And I believe the page he links (first post in thread you link) prooves the new armour.

I own proph and factions and willl own nightfall and I didn't get the option of making a rit or an assassin. I'm pretty sure you have to make them in Cantha, get to Kanieng and then bring them over... can't start in Elona.

Ninna

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Northeast USA

Guilded Rose

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01 Oct 2006 at 11:02 - 3

I own all chapters too and assume the poster misquoted Gaile
(Use Assassin vs Create Assassin)

In Factions, you were not allowed to immediatly travel over to PreSearing

Maybe Faction Starting Characters can immediatly travel over to NightFall Starting Island ?

will find out in a few weeks....

Cicada Sopita

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Me/

01 Oct 2006 at 13:31 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninna

Maybe Faction Starting Characters can immediatly travel over to NightFall Starting Island ?

Highly unlikely - it's likely that map travel from Cantha will still be from Kaineng. Anything else would make things too fragmental. Also, creating a canthan assassin and immediately taking him to Istan would defeat the purpose of having assassin as a unique class to Cantha - and it would be hard to tie on the plotline.

ValaOfTheFens

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2006

Warrior Nation[WN]

01 Oct 2006 at 13:41 - 5

Doubtful. I'm starting to believe that only the core professions plus the two new professions will be available at the start of each expansion. You'll just have to make an Assassin and get to Kaineng(or however its spelled!!) Center and activate the quest to Elona when you get Nightfall.

Blackhawk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/

01 Oct 2006 at 14:35 - 6

I'd go with that assumption as well, otherwise it'll completely mess up the storylines from each chapter.

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

01 Oct 2006 at 15:51 - 7

I think Gaile just wasn't as carefull with her wording as she should've been and that guy misread it.

I doubt sins/rits will be able to start in Elona.

gamecube187

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

01 Oct 2006 at 16:01 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninna

whats known is...
- there will be an assassin hero
- there will be new assassin/rit armor
- there will be new assassin/rit skills
- I did see drops on the preview newbie isle that required communing

during the preview, I DID NOT see
- assassin/rit trainers on starting isle
- assassin/rit char select for Create

maybe we didnt see that during preview because *both* Nightfall and Factions are required?

I know Assassin and Rit are exclusive to Factions
- but what if you own both games?

When was it stated there was an assassin hero?(I hope this is true!)

What about having a Ritualist hero? Any news on that?(I really hope there is one)

And I really don't see us being able to make assassins (or Rits) in nightfall. They are factions-only classes, and being able to make them in Nightfall will make it so they are no longer factions-only.

Now, making them in Factions and bringing them to Nightfall is perfectly reasonable. I know thats the first thing I'm going to do (after I try out dervish, paragon, and mesmer first

)

EDIT
Yes Nightsaber, I think he just misread it. I think she said you can't make assassins or rits in nightfall, ever, but you can bring them to nightfall (as long as you have factions).

ludogego

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

01 Oct 2006 at 16:58 - 9

I think that there will be no additional assasin and rits faces and hairstyles but only armor, skills and items. While the preview event was on we were able to chose from 3 races for the core heroes (while creating PvP char) but there wasn't the option factions' heroes to be from other then Asian race. This means that there will be no assasins and ritualists as starting chars in Nightfall. So, we must make the faction hero in Cantha first go to the ship and then go to Elona. But it is still good that we will take the other stuff for the factions' profs.

Hyper Cutter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Knights of the White Eye [HINA]

01 Oct 2006 at 20:28 - 10

Quote:

- I did see drops on the preview newbie isle that required communing

That happens in Prophecies, too, because of the way caster weapons are generated...

Ninna

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Northeast USA

Guilded Rose

Me/

01 Oct 2006 at 21:30 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by gamecube187

When was it stated there was an assassin hero?(I hope this is true!)

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Hero

has Zenmai listed as an Assassin Hero (but maybe this is incorrect info)

Angel Netherborn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Lower Ward, Sigil

Goda Vos

02 Oct 2006 at 08:17 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninna

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Hero

has Zenmai listed as an Assassin Hero (but maybe this is incorrect info)

IIRC, one of the preview videos showed Zenmai as an A on the party window... i think that's where they sourced it from.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

02 Oct 2006 at 14:44 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninna

I assume the answer would be NO -- but I'm not so sure

I saw this commentary
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10047566

I suppose thats possible

whats known is...
- there will be an assassin hero
- there will be new assassin/rit armor
- there will be new assassin/rit skills
- I did see drops on the preview newbie isle that required communing

during the preview, I DID NOT see
- assassin/rit trainers on starting isle
- assassin/rit char select for Create

maybe we didnt see that during preview because *both* Nightfall and Factions are required?

I know Assassin and Rit are exclusive to Factions
- but what if you own both games?

May have been already been said.

I very much doubt you will be able to create assassins or Ritualist within Nightfall.

You can take your Ass or Rit's to Elonia or Tyria, but not start a character on either one.

And you wont be able to create a Derv or Par in Tyria or Cantha either.

The only characters you can create on all continents which exist and will exist, are the 6 core professions.

Any future ones will be unique to those continents and only creatable on those continents.

They will how-ever be able to travel between continents.

And older game professions will be able to travel to new game continents to get new armor and weapons (but not the other way around).

Its all another sales-technique to make people go "Oooo I want a Ritualist, Ill have to go buy Factions".

Anet has to make money somehow.

Horseman Of War

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Cult of Doom

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02 Oct 2006 at 18:48 - 14

mmm double post.

Horseman Of War

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Cult of Doom

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02 Oct 2006 at 18:51 - 15

definately a good marketing strategy if you ask me.

I wonder if any of the new skills will be quest rewards (if you bring-over your assassin or rit) or if they will ALL be aquired through plats n caps..

*because I got two skill rewards in the WPE* (in case thats still a question)

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

02 Oct 2006 at 19:45 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horseman Of War

definately a good marketing strategy if you ask me.

I wonder if any of the new skills will be quest rewards (if you bring-over your assassin or rit) or if they will ALL be aquired through plats n caps..

*because I got two skill rewards in the WPE* (in case thats still a question)

Only skill quests I saw in the preview were The Training ones like when you pick your secondary, just like in Factions, were there more?

-malachi-

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

08 Oct 2006 at 03:05 - 17

sorry for the revival.

but thinking about this today. Want to make a Rt/P, but how will they handle that? The only Secondary quests I know of are still just for the core classes in CD. I really want to make a pve Rt/P

(can't decide if I should go grind one to 20 and hope there are secondary changes so I can get /P, or if I should wait and hope they introduce new secondary trainers in old starter areas if you have the expansions).

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

08 Oct 2006 at 03:11 - 18

You'll have to start your ritualist in Cantha then take it over to Elona. I'd imagine the secondary trainer wouldn't be too far into the continent similar to Cantha. If you want to save time, go ahead and make your ritualist now and get it to the mainland, then just wait for Nightfall to go live and head over to Elona.

-malachi-

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

08 Oct 2006 at 03:13 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith

You'll have to start your ritualist in Cantha then take it over to Elona. I'd imagine the secondary trainer wouldn't be too far into the continent similar to Cantha. If you want to save time, go ahead and make your ritualist now and get it to the mainland, then just wait for Nightfall to go live and head over to Elona.

hmmm don't you have to choose a secondary to even get to the mainland?

Edit:Not opposed to creating a new toon in cantha/leveling for a bit to get to NF, just don't want to jump through hoops just to get a secondary I wanted to start with in the first place :P

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

08 Oct 2006 at 03:15 - 20

You do have to choose a secondary, but it doesn't matter which you pick since you're going to just switch anyway.....

-malachi-

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

08 Oct 2006 at 03:18 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith

You do have to choose a secondary, but it doesn't matter which you pick since you're going to just switch anyway.....

ok, sorry been on a break and never tried to switch a secondary in factions....so you just land in the new zone and talk to someone or something? Or are there similar quests like Crystal Desert?

-malachi-

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

08 Oct 2006 at 03:20 - 22

sorry, double post.

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

08 Oct 2006 at 03:26 - 23

In Cantha you can just go to Senji's Corner and switch your secondary to anything including sin/rit without even doing any quests >_<

Every campaign will obviously have a secondary profession changer somewhere.

-malachi-

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

08 Oct 2006 at 03:28 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith

In Cantha you can just go to Senji's Corner and switch your secondary to anything including sin/rit without even doing any quests >_<

Every campaign will obviously have a secondary profession changer somewhere.

cool, thank you ^^

Horseman Of War

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Cult of Doom

P/

08 Oct 2006 at 14:30 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Former Ruling

Only skill quests I saw in the preview were The Training ones like when you pick your secondary, just like in Factions, were there more?

No I definately got a skill reward around the time my dervish was level... 12? 15? I hope i took a screenie, Id like to prove my validity (unless I was hallucinating??)

sykoone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mystical Chaos

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08 Oct 2006 at 22:23 - 26

It may have just been a glitch for the preview event, but Senji in Cantha allowed me to change my secondary to Paragon and Dervish. He just didn't give me any skills. I'm still carrying around the Dervish secondary just to mess with people.

Zehnchu

Popcorn Fetish

Join Date: Dec 2005

[GODS]

Mo/Me

09 Oct 2006 at 03:01 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horseman Of War

No I definately got a skill reward around the time my dervish was level... 12? 15? I hope i took a screenie, Id like to prove my validity (unless I was hallucinating??)

Good question, I would have to check wiki for more information but I don’t remember if I got any skill rewards for two new classes other then at the start and in the training area. I can tell you that I did get a skill rewards for the hero’s.

Mr Fenring

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Melbourne

09 Oct 2006 at 06:19 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninna

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Hero

has Zenmai listed as an Assassin Hero (but maybe this is incorrect info)

There will be Nightfall assassin and ritualist heroes (where else do the new elites come from?).

Dazzler

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

E/Me

09 Oct 2006 at 14:06 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Fenring

There will be Nightfall assassin and ritualist heroes (where else do the new elites come from?).

Just guessing here, but maybe....BOSSES?