Uw Or Fow?

lord catos

lord catos

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

netherlands

guild leader off skull warriors of chaos [SW]

W/E

Uw ore Fow?

I like to play Uw, its about tactics and team work.
The most I play whit me ranger.(trapper).
What profession you like to play and what you like more,
play Fow ore Uw?

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

FoW, with a warrior tank and three men.

carribus

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

Kamadan

WAX

N/

UW - echo ss/sv necro and 55/600 monk tank
FoW - 3 man team (2 monks and an ss/sv necro)

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

I prefer UW. FoW is all gloomy and depressing, whereas UW is dark and mysterious.

Effendi Westland

Effendi Westland

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Isle of the dead

[DVDF][LDS]

P/W

FoW, as Mesmer (interrupting or nuking), or as tank. Don't care about party size, but we've done 5 quite effectively.

Gonzo

Gonzo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

W/

FoW as ranger interupter or as tank.

prism2525

prism2525

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Among dead bodies.

The Republic of Sky Pirates

E/

Both. I initially shirked UW cos of those aatxes, but with a 55 hp they're a joke (as long as they don't charge me) Now my necro makes trips to both while my other chars hug the statue of balth.

Anarion Silverhand

Anarion Silverhand

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Denmark

None

FoW, as it's a bit more free than UW, there's no quests required to progress in the instance..

Also, it's much more intense, so to speak, and I really like giving them abyssals a beating.

Smile Like Umean It

Smile Like Umean It

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

E/Rt

I love taking my ranger to FoW. There was a time that I only ever went to UW though. That was a long time ago.

Lavindathar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Manchester, England

The Monstrous Fangs (fang)

N/Mo

UW 2 man :P

Divinus Stella

Divinus Stella

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Wales

Steel Phoenix

UW as a nuker, FoW is ok aswel, but the spider cave takes an eternity as an ele :P

shrouded^god

shrouded^god

IGN: J C A C H E

Join Date: Sep 2006

843

[Liar]

FoW as tank in a 5man is the most fun for me...

Res Ipsi

Res Ipsi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Canada

Angel Sharks [As]

Me/

Thanks to one of the w/me builds found on this site, UW all by my lonesome.

wilson

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

aggro bubble

[RD];[FW];[GOTS];[baed];[kiSu]

Definitely FoW. FoW is much more "rounded" and "balanced" imho. The mobs are much more diverse and it hasn't the farming tag stuck on it, like it is the case for UW, except for the spider cave maybe.

Monk and Mesmer are my favorite professions in FoW. I really like monking in the FoW, just don't ask me to be the bonder. I just don't like it, no matter how efficient it is. Also, imho, the fissure is one of the PvE areas where mesmers really shine. I'm convinced it was designed for Mesmers.

Phaern Majes

Phaern Majes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Anywhere but up

The Panserbjorne [ROAR]

R/Mo

UW quite simply ectos are worth more than shards.

boxterduke

boxterduke

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Walking the ruins of Ascalon

DVDF

Me/

I like fow more than the uw.
In fow I usually go as mesmer with different build depending on what I feel like.

UW, we have been doing IWAY these days and its just great.

Alleji

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

I haven't done either in a very, very long time... but when I started playing I did UW a lot more than FoW to get skill points (more 10k exp quests), mainly with my ele (back when I thought nukers were actually good). Then I tried to lead pugs to clear it, but pugs are pugs and UW is big. Never actually got all of it.

Several months later, I 2-man farmed UW as a necro for my fow armor for a while.

Then tried to solo FoW as a 55 necro and relatively recently, spider cave with a warrior. I've been in a serious quest group for FoW only a handful of times.

My most recent 2 trips were with my guild to get a guildy FoW armor and we absolutely blazed through to the forgemaster. If only I could get them away from HA and to clear FoW and UW... >.>

Eldin

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

FoW is more on combat and phat lewt, whilst UW requires a bit more teamwork, and is more on quests and unlocking areas.

If I could only pick one, I'd go with FoW as it's a big source of money and item drops.

Franco

Franco

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2006

England

VoB

Me/

UW ftw... FoW is boring. And atracts too many people.

Burton2000

Burton2000

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

A cardboard box in England

Men Of Substance [YMCA]

Mo/Me

Uw definatly the quests are more fun to do and the fact a monster can kill you in 2 hits adds a bit of excitment to it.

Maria The Princess

Maria The Princess

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Aequitas Deis

there both gettining kinda old, but:

to make money: UW because its eay and profitable
to have fun: FOW because its more fun

saphir

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

doa

Mo/

UW as a monk and an 8 man pug doing unwanted guests at the same time as escort souls =) I've only successfully completed that combo w/ a pug once.

fow - booooring unless you can convince the party to go to the dead/burning forest area. never found a pug to clear it yet

Griff Mon

Griff Mon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

In the Elfen Forests of Washington State

Damage Radius

N/

I've always enjoyed FoW more because it requires groups that work together. You can have half the group drop off and still make good progress with the remaining people. Of course, all it takes is one bad player to mess it all up.

I spend a lot of time in ToA and I rarely hear of UW groups forming except for the usual SS necro and 55 monk pair and some ranger teams. In FoW there are a lot of eight man groups. UW players rarely form up in large groups.

Vladmir Mironov

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

The Almighty

FoW is boring and rediculously long. Heh heh!
I think Underworld is pretty fun though and I like to do that.

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

I don't play either because there is no point whastoever to those areas unless you are doing small-party Ectos or Shard farming groups.

In others words, playing those areas normally "as intended" with 8 men and doing quests is pointless, so why bother?

There have been many threads over the months saying that UW and FOW need to be given an actual point to playing in them, yet as of now there still isn't one.

Tingi

Tingi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/

questing in UW with a full man balanced team (no 55'ers etc) - the only part of PvE I actually enjoy.

Griff Mon

Griff Mon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

In the Elfen Forests of Washington State

Damage Radius

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Navaros
I don't play either because there is no point whastoever to those areas unless you are doing small-party Ectos or Shard farming groups.

In others words, playing those areas normally "as intended" with 8 men and doing quests is pointless, so why bother?

There have been many threads over the months saying that UW and FOW need to be given an actual point to playing in them, yet as of now there still isn't one.
The point is ectos and shards. The point of ectos and shards is to buy Obsidian Armour, a vanity set of armour. Or sell the ectos and shards to players that want them to buy their FoW armour.

Or a spider pet from UW. Basically, a vanity pet.

So unless you need to get this armour or a spider, the only reason to explore here is to rack up experience points or throw expensive keys at chests.

blkadr

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Shingletown Slayers

R/Me

I don't think there needs to be a 'point' for playing UW or FoW,apart from having fun playing a challenging area. I like UW, just because its perfect for 3 man trapping group.

BlackRecluse

BlackRecluse

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

[Dark]

W/

underworld for sure. fow is decent, especially the lake of fire and the beach. but ive always liked playing in the UW with an entire team

saphir

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

doa

Mo/

uw - because gwen's mom is there and thus hints to unsolved mysteries and hidden secrets =)

AlienFromBeyond

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

W/

FoW, because I can farm it solo with my warrior much easier than UW.

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Griff Mon
The point is ectos and shards. The point of ectos and shards is to buy Obsidian Armour, a vanity set of armour. Or sell the ectos and shards to players that want them to buy their FoW armour.

Or a spider pet from UW. Basically, a vanity pet.

So unless you need to get this armour or a spider, the only reason to explore here is to rack up experience points or throw expensive keys at chests.
Yes I realize everthing you have said but when you look at it past the surface level then some serious deficiencies with the UW or FOW become noticeable.

What I was trying to say was:

- If you enter UW or FOW with 8 men you get almost no Ectos or Shards, maybe even zero. Therefore entering UW or FOW with 8 men for Ectos or Shards is pointless.

- You can get experience way, way, way faster and easier by doing repeatable Faction quests than you can by doing Underworld of Fissure quests. Therefore entering UW or FOW for quests or experience points is pointless.

- You don't get anything for beating all of UW or FOW therefore there is absolutely no point in doing so.

Therefore, there is no absolutely no reasonable motivation to play in UW or FOW as the devs intended - with 8 men in a party trying to progress through the quests.

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

FoW I usually find I get more loot and more fun out of it. UW scenery is boring and it seems like the same thing over and over and is just very boring to me.

/FoW

ADDED: Navaros remember that Guild Wars is only a game and people enter these places for a challenge and for fun not only to gain something out of it. And yes in FoW with an 8 man group shards are very abundant from what im used to, you may have gotten unlucky.

unienaule

unienaule

I dunt even get "Retired"

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

FoW as backup ranger with dual/punishing, or primary ranger with barrage. I just love spiking those stupid heal monks with dual/punish.