Firestorm needs to be REMOVED from Guildwars
O R L Y
The skill is completely useless and reaks havoc in any party, just yesterday i went monking The Deep every single group i was in (11 Total) failed because the idiot ele used firestorm breaking aggro and killing us all. Not only did the eles use firestorm they brought breath of fire! i hope they do something about AoE's or just plain remove that shit from the game.
Gigashadow
Skills like Fire Storm and Mending are in the game for a reason. They are stepping stone skills, and people need to learn on their own why they are bad (in most cases).
Alleji
I always at least smile when I see a W/E with firestorm. It's not as cliche as mending, and it's a lot funnier (and a lot more useless).
So, keep it in the game plz to keep other players entertained when they run into one in RA, AvA, or even tombs.
So, keep it in the game plz to keep other players entertained when they run into one in RA, AvA, or even tombs.
Mr_eX
If you let somebody on your team bring fire storm to the deep then you deserve to lose. 
reetkever
I somewhat agree on this, I don't think they should be removed from the game, but at least be NERFED. Who the hell's gonna pay 15 energy for a spell that takes time to cast, and does only 15 damage thanks to the AoE effect...
The AoE effect is kind of good, I guess, since monsters would be too easy to kill otherwise, but with the AoE effect, AoE spells are just useless, and most of the time they are annoying or in the way.
The AoE effect is kind of good, I guess, since monsters would be too easy to kill otherwise, but with the AoE effect, AoE spells are just useless, and most of the time they are annoying or in the way.
EternalTempest
Strongly Disagree
Since the AOE change the use of it's changed greatly.
I find if in a party, aggro control gets broken, casting it with the mob next to you or on you party's monk is a great way to get heat off for a short bit. (This is after aggro is broken).
I've also found some mobs (not many) if focused on tank will not break aggro and also with Factions and tight area's, there times you can usually use it as it was intended. It just a skill that went from general use that can be used if your are careful.
Since the AOE change the use of it's changed greatly.
I find if in a party, aggro control gets broken, casting it with the mob next to you or on you party's monk is a great way to get heat off for a short bit. (This is after aggro is broken).
I've also found some mobs (not many) if focused on tank will not break aggro and also with Factions and tight area's, there times you can usually use it as it was intended. It just a skill that went from general use that can be used if your are careful.
GloryFox
Sorry sometimes you need to break agro in PvE and Firestorm as well as other AoE spells are very good in this use. I’m sorry to hear you had a bad Elementalist in your group. Don't blame the skill blame the caster. BTW a monster in retreat is a monster not doing damage.
Akuma
A warrior might chase after the fleeing monster, however, and that can lead to major chaos.....
Tyggen
I don't think it should be removed entirely, but it should definetly be removed from henchies.
gou
it's fine if you use a snare.
KoalaMeatPie
No, don' Delet Firestorm, it's a DEFENSIVE skill, no offensive.
If the mobs are on you, on the casters, You cast FS on yourself (enemy closest) And they leave you.
If the mobs are on you, on the casters, You cast FS on yourself (enemy closest) And they leave you.
Tachyon
Just because you don't like it it should be removed? Sorry, that's very arrogant of you.
I don't like getting hammered by SS in the RA, it's my own fault I know, but I don't want it removed from the game because of that.
I don't like getting hammered by SS in the RA, it's my own fault I know, but I don't want it removed from the game because of that.
cosyfiep
I dont use firestorm anylonger (since the nerf), but like breath of fire---the amount of damage it does is over before the enemy moves---and it works wonders when you want to get the agro OFF you!
It has its uses.....but the casters need to know WHEN those times are.
It has its uses.....but the casters need to know WHEN those times are.
GloryFox
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posted by AkumaZ A warrior might chase after the fleeing monster, however, and that can lead to major chaos..... |
O R L Y
thats the thing eles i run into dont know when to use it they just cast it right away and i had skilled check every one in my team before entering the deep they sayed they dident have fs but they used it in game -_-
why waste 3 secs or so of casting and 15 energy just to get a monster away from you instead of just running???
why waste 3 secs or so of casting and 15 energy just to get a monster away from you instead of just running???
Maria The Princess
these skills shouldnt be removed! hell no! who am i gonna laugh at?!!!
no jokes, but i like AoE nurf because its just more challenging now, and i get to "save" monks and Rits spirits, by attaking their "offenders" with AoE. trigger Headless chicken effect so they leave the poor monkey alone
no jokes, but i like AoE nurf because its just more challenging now, and i get to "save" monks and Rits spirits, by attaking their "offenders" with AoE. trigger Headless chicken effect so they leave the poor monkey alone
EinherjarMx
it just should be removed from henchies, and for defensive issues, i'd rather lava font
yesterday i did dragons lair as a nuker and the leader forgot to kick orion... talk about wasting 25e every time a mob scattered
yesterday i did dragons lair as a nuker and the leader forgot to kick orion... talk about wasting 25e every time a mob scattered
Jetdoc
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Originally Posted by KoalaMeatPie
No, don' Delet Firestorm, it's a DEFENSIVE skill, no offensive.
If the mobs are on you, on the casters, You cast FS on yourself (enemy closest) And they leave you. |
Chris Blackstar
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Originally Posted by O R L Y
The skill is completely useless and reaks havoc in any party, just yesterday i went monking The Deep every single group i was in (11 Total) failed because the idiot ele used firestorm breaking aggro and killing us all. Not only did the eles use firestorm they brought breath of fire! i hope they do something about AoE's or just plain remove that shit from the game.
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I have used firestorm, breath of fire and many other AoE's with great success, it's just that you have to know how to use them, and have to know what skills are best for every situation.
I respect your opinion, but do not destroy the game for everyone else just because the situation did not go your way. Grow up and try again!!
O R L Y
hows it my fault im monking the deep and all the carps come and kill me because of a ele using firestorm? go to the deep and use that crap you will be kicked instantly
bam23
I only use it when the monsters are completely body blocked.
MAdnRisKy
firestorm is very high dmg for its cost. Its very efficient. The trick of course, is to make sure that multiple monsters take the dmg for the full 10 second duration. Most ele's I know haven't worked that bit out yet
Shadowfox1125
Wait, wait, wait..
An ele brought Firestorm and Breath of Fire to the Deep?
That, my friend, is not GW's fault, nor Arenanet's fault, but your group's incompetence to make sure everyone has the correct skills. From playing GW, you should know that Fire storm makes creatures flee, but since you just learned that, I guess it was a good thing that it was hidden from you in the past. This spreading isn't anything new.
The Deep isn't hard at all for nukers.. just bring the standard nuking skills and Revealed Enchantment..
Go with a guild or alliance group next time.
An ele brought Firestorm and Breath of Fire to the Deep?
That, my friend, is not GW's fault, nor Arenanet's fault, but your group's incompetence to make sure everyone has the correct skills. From playing GW, you should know that Fire storm makes creatures flee, but since you just learned that, I guess it was a good thing that it was hidden from you in the past. This spreading isn't anything new.
The Deep isn't hard at all for nukers.. just bring the standard nuking skills and Revealed Enchantment..
Go with a guild or alliance group next time.
Age
What else would you replace it with for presearing as you only get that plus flare and 2 air skills anyway I don't think it needs to be removed just used right?I would like to see it plus fireball removed from Orion and Cynn as they should have Meteor showers and Meteor if the Hydra have it why not them.
O R L Y
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Originally Posted by Shadowfox1125
Wait, wait, wait..
An ele brought Firestorm and Breath of Fire to the Deep? That, my friend, is not GW's fault, nor Arenanet's fault, but your group's incompetence to make sure everyone has the correct skills. From playing GW, you should know that Fire storm makes creatures flee, but since you just learned that, I guess it was a good thing that it was hidden from you in the past. This spreading isn't anything new. The Deep isn't hard at all for nukers.. just bring the standard nuking skills and Revealed Enchantment.. Go with a guild or alliance group next time. |
MMSDome
i hope my guildies read this thread whenever i try and explain why warrior using live viscariously mending and all profs using firestorm is a bad thing they pull out the "Ive been playing since beta so im an expert" bs.
As much as it frustrates me to see these things you cant nerf ALL AoE because remember in FoW nukes are one of the main damage sources
As much as it frustrates me to see these things you cant nerf ALL AoE because remember in FoW nukes are one of the main damage sources
mqstout
All this talk of aggro control and crap like it makes me want to pull out my hair. Can't you people play the game without reducing it to a series of numbers? *sigh*
I wish they'd undo or tone down the AoE AI change so the spells are useful. Make them strike faster for less damage, something.
I wish they'd undo or tone down the AoE AI change so the spells are useful. Make them strike faster for less damage, something.
vinegrower
yeah, firestorm has no use, especially since they NEVER gave us any way to slow down foes so that they take all or most of the damage.
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Phoenix Ex
My main gripe with AoE nuke is that by the time you finish the 3 sec casting time of Deep Freeze, and another 3 sec + for which ever AoE, 80% of the mobs already died to SS, MM, barrage, backfire, empathy...etc etc.
Windstriker
AS many have said before, Firestorm mainly has a use in PvE as a defensive skill. If fired point blank with monsters on your back, it helps break them off and time to heal wounds for a bit as well as create a "safe zone". Also note that sometimes monsters will not run from a area of effect spell if they are too engrossed on their current target or need to get in range to cast spells. It is just a matter of timing.
Zinger314
I find many of the comments in this topic to be misleading. Fire Storm doesn't say in the description "This skill causes enemies in PvE to flee." That's ArenaNet's fault, not the player.
ArenaNet should add a quest which teaches the proper use of DoT AOEs.
ArenaNet should add a quest which teaches the proper use of DoT AOEs.
Malice Black
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Originally Posted by Zinger314
I find many of the comments in this topic to be misleading. Fire Storm doesn't say in the description "This skill causes enemies in PvE to flee." That's ArenaNet's fault, not the player.
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Next dying will be Anets fault as well..
eloc_jcg
Firestorm is a good skill. It is my second best one as a fire mage in attack damage, but you should not use it when luring. I only use it when we are in the heat of the battle.
Mr Jazzy
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Originally Posted by Azagoth
Just because you don't like it it should be removed? Sorry, that's very arrogant of you.
I don't like getting hammered by SS in the RA, it's my own fault I know, but I don't want it removed from the game because of that. |
Malice Black
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Originally Posted by Mr Jazzy
your logic is skewed. the OP wants to remove firestorm because it's useless, not because it's strong like spiteful spirit.
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A skill shouldnt be removed/nerfed based on one persons view of that skill..simple.
KANE OG
For my ele, I use FS as a FINISHER in a large group. Jeez, the AI doesn't just run away when they feel the first one hit.
lightblade
Ham-storm ftw!! woot!
Malice Black
^^^lol such a fun build
vaxmor
Its fine - learn2play
Tachyon
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Originally Posted by The Admins Bane
Azagoth logic is sound...the OP wants the skill removed based on thier opinion of the skill, Azagoth pointed out he/she didn't like SS but he/she still doesn't want it removed..
A skill shouldnt be removed/nerfed based on one persons view of that skill..simple. |
I love using using SS myself, it's just when I fail to notice it's active on me I hate it.
It's a He, not a She by the way.