Frustration: Hex Spell. For 5...17 seconds, target foe casts Spells 50% slower and takes 5...41 damage whenever interrupted while casting a Spell. 10 1 15
Migraine: Elite Hex Spell. For the next 5...17 seconds, target foe suffers health degeneration of 1...3 and takes 100% longer to cast spells. 10 2 15
Ok, so frustration is the same thing, except the damage is on interupt instead of degen, half the cast time, and its not even an elite. People use migraine now which is already good spell... does anyone else see a problem here?
1 interupt every 7 seconds is the equivalent damage.... which means more than likely frustration will do more damage...
Frustration Vs. Migraine
TadaceAce
Yanman.be
If Frustration stacks...wow.
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by TadaceAce
Frustration: Hex Spell. For 5...17 seconds, target foe casts Spells 50% slower and takes 5...41 damage whenever interrupted while casting a Spell. 10 1 15
Migraine: Elite Hex Spell. For the next 5...17 seconds, target foe suffers health degeneration of 1...3 and takes 100% longer to cast spells. 10 2 15 Ok, so frustration is the same thing, except the damage is on interupt instead of degen, half the cast time, and its not even an elite. People use migraine now which is already good spell... does anyone else see a problem here? 1 interupt every 7 seconds is the equivalent damage.... which means more than likely frustration will do more damage... |
One has damage that is conditional, the other doesn't, and the spell slowdown is the real kicker.
Ridiculed
Frustration+Arcane Larceny+Power Spike= gg echo nuker.
Migraine is still pretty sweet.
Migraine is still pretty sweet.
Ghull Ka
I find the difference in wording interesting. "Takes 100% longer" vs "casts 50% slower". Why did they do it that way, I wonder?
Lets Get to Healing
Say hello to ol' Arcane Conundrum. BTW, they'll probably cap the cast rate off (i.e. like they did to Defile Flash + Lingering Curse.)
Franco
Migraine is the god of illusion skills, dont diss it.
Clawdius_Talonious
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Originally Posted by Ghull Ka
I find the difference in wording interesting. "Takes 100% longer" vs "casts 50% slower". Why did they do it that way, I wonder?
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Xpl0iter
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Originally Posted by Ridiculed
Frustration+Arcane Larceny+Power Spike= gg echo nuker.
Migraine is still pretty sweet. |
stop comparing them. every one knows ele is still gimped, waiting for nightfall.
Regardz
Ole Man Bourbon
They capped the degree to which you can decrease an enemy's spell casting time, didn't they?
Ensign
It's capped at a 150% increase in cast time.
Peace,
-CxE
Peace,
-CxE
Vermilion
I don't see why we have to choose at all..if Ensigns right..migraine + frustration =150. ftw. Unless you wanted to use frustration + signet of illusions + power spike/leak/etc etc..idk.
LightningHell
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TadaceAce
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Migraine: 100% vs 50% slowdown on spell casting. Health degen is constant damage, and doesn't have to be interupted when casting a spell.
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100% increase = twice as long to cast.... tough logic there........
true the frustration damage is conditional but potentially does a lot more damage than migraine... and by potentially I mean WILL do more damage if you have interupts.
Frustration is NOT an elite
Omega X
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50% slowdown = twice as long to cast....
100% increase = twice as long to cast.... tough logic there........ true the frustration damage is conditional but potentially does a lot more damage than migraine... and by potentially I mean WILL do more damage if you have interupts. Frustration is NOT an elite |
Blaze Emup
Ok people...get it right.
A spell that has a casting time of 5 seconds.
50% slower cast. 5x.50=2.5+5=7.5
100% longer cast 5x1.0=5+5=10.0
See the difference?
A spell that has a casting time of 5 seconds.
50% slower cast. 5x.50=2.5+5=7.5
100% longer cast 5x1.0=5+5=10.0
See the difference?
Mr Fenring
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Ok people...get it right.
A spell that has a casting time of 5 seconds. 50% slower cast. 5x.50=2.5+5=7.5 100% longer cast 5x1.0=5+5=10.0 See the difference? |
50% slower cast speed - 0.2*0.5 = 0.1 spells per second (1 spell in 10 seconds)
100% longer cast time - 5*2 = 10 seconds
They're equivalent.
hubin_at
About the damage output:
Frustration: 41 damage per interrupt
Migraine: -3 degen for 17s = 102 damage
So, if we neglect spike damage vs. degen, you have to interrupt 3 times so that Frustration outperforms Migraine.
Frustration: 41 damage per interrupt
Migraine: -3 degen for 17s = 102 damage
So, if we neglect spike damage vs. degen, you have to interrupt 3 times so that Frustration outperforms Migraine.
Terra Xin
50% slower is the same as 100% longer. Use Mind Freeze for example - which uses the same language pattern, and ask yourself why you're moving at 1/10th of your speed, rather than just under half your normal speed.
I think the intention was to have Frustration to cause 50% longer to cast spells, otherwise this clearly outfavours Arcane Conundrum, so I think that this skill actually does cause 50% longer to cast spells, but the skill description is flawed.
I think the intention was to have Frustration to cause 50% longer to cast spells, otherwise this clearly outfavours Arcane Conundrum, so I think that this skill actually does cause 50% longer to cast spells, but the skill description is flawed.
lightblade
Frustration > Migraine
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With the upcoming Nightfall, there are many ways to interrupt that doesn't involve Domination skills.
Power Return
Power Drain
Web of Disruption -> Drain Delution
+the Elite = Mantra of Recovery
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With the upcoming Nightfall, there are many ways to interrupt that doesn't involve Domination skills.
Power Return
Power Drain
Web of Disruption -> Drain Delution
+the Elite = Mantra of Recovery
Mortanius
Frustration is just NFs anwser to Migraine, but its the degen that makes Migraine more fun imo.
Mort
Mort
TadaceAce
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Frustration is just NFs anwser to Migraine, but its the degen that makes Migraine more fun imo.
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