If you got scammed what did you do about it? Reported it? Put them on ignore? Quietly sob in the corner?
Do ANET do anything about scammers?
King Kong
I'm just wondering do ANET even do anything about scammers? I see the same people in ToA scamming for weeks on end, even talking to other runners the same names pop up again and again. Are we wasting our time, in submitting a support ticket? Would love some sort of official word on it.
If you got scammed what did you do about it? Reported it? Put them on ignore? Quietly sob in the corner?
If you got scammed what did you do about it? Reported it? Put them on ignore? Quietly sob in the corner?
Roshi_ikkyu
Runners?
Dude you do know the definition of Scam right?
Wtf running is not scamming.
If your scammed, scrn shot the event, collect names and then pass it on to Anet but remember the do have bigger fish to fry sometimes.
And learn the difference between being scammed and a runner!
Dude you do know the definition of Scam right?
Wtf running is not scamming.
If your scammed, scrn shot the event, collect names and then pass it on to Anet but remember the do have bigger fish to fry sometimes.
And learn the difference between being scammed and a runner!
NinjaKai
Running is not scamming. Its only scamming if they don't complete the promised run. And you can be seen as a scammer if you do not pay for a completed run.
As for scammers in general. Its NCsoft that handles the support issues not ANet.
As for scammers in general. Its NCsoft that handles the support issues not ANet.
Lykan
I think he's talking about people going on runs and then not paying. Afaik Anet will not punish these people even if you screenshot it and report it.
As for people scamming others out of money via trade and other tricks its really down to the situation.
All you can do is SS and report, if its worthy of a ban it will be handed out.
As for people scamming others out of money via trade and other tricks its really down to the situation.
All you can do is SS and report, if its worthy of a ban it will be handed out.
led-zep
anet dont do anything about scammers especially those who wont pay for a run that was agreed in good faith.
King Kong
Wasnt just talking about runners being scammed, meant scammers in general. Ive never been scammed while doing runs! But been done with the old 7g instead of 7k awhile ago, but that was because i had been up all night with the baby
Stockholm
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Wasnt just talking about runners being scammed, meant scammers in general. Ive never been scammed while doing runs! But been done with the old 7g instead of 7k awhile ago, but that was because i had been up all night with the baby
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A-net can not police every transaction in game, if the buyer or seller is in such a hurry that they don't look over the item or the amount, amounts to same as walking away from a cashier and leaving your change behind,
Slow down, relax.
Franco
lol i think this guy is talking about a bot in TOA that been there for a few days , giving gold for plats. Everytime i go there person a is always saying **** IS A SCAMMER.
I tried telling people its not a scammer , its a bot. but no one listens lol.
I tried telling people its not a scammer , its a bot. but no one listens lol.
Tyggen
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I tried telling people its not a scammer , its a bot. but no one listens lol.
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blastm
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Is it a scam or was it you that should have checked the transaction before hitting the accept button? (I hope the baby is ok)
A-net can not police every transaction in game, if the buyer or seller is in such a hurry that they don't look over the item or the amount, amounts to same as walking away from a cashier and leaving your change behind, Slow down, relax. |
one's thing for sure, Anet is doing nothing about this sort of things, even if you provides screen shots showing the price you both agreed on, the transaction, other players witnessing that the guy tryied the same thing on them at the same time, etc.
I've been had once, a long time ago, but a guildmate told me he saw the guy online since then.
can't wait until he removes me of his ignore list. wish those where shorter.
Thargor
The real question here is if Anet or NCSoft should even do anything about a scammer. In almost every case the person being "scammed" is at fault. If you are to lazy to check that everything in the trade window is right then it is your own fault.
Being scammed as a runner is different since you have no way of knowing if someone is going to pay you at the end of the run.
There is an easy way around being scammed though. Don't run others or get ran anywhere, don't trade with people in game, if you do trade in game then PAY ATTENTION.
I think there are more important things in the game that need to be taken care of instead of anet babysitting a bunch of lazy people.
Just my opinion of course...
Being scammed as a runner is different since you have no way of knowing if someone is going to pay you at the end of the run.
There is an easy way around being scammed though. Don't run others or get ran anywhere, don't trade with people in game, if you do trade in game then PAY ATTENTION.
I think there are more important things in the game that need to be taken care of instead of anet babysitting a bunch of lazy people.
Just my opinion of course...
Franco
I agree with thargor, takes you 2 seconds to check if people is paying you gold or plats.
Yestarday this idiot tried to give me mursaat tokens instead of ectos , i just laughed at him lol.
Yestarday this idiot tried to give me mursaat tokens instead of ectos , i just laughed at him lol.
blastm
Anet did a great job with the trading windows, as i've never heard of a exploit in it. If the only thing the scammed can do is blaming himself, it doesn't make the scammer any less dishonnest.
Maybe the staff got other things to do, but letting the scammers run free just make the game less enjoyable to play. Anet may loose some customers, If they'r told beforehand that they'r tons of jerks in the community, and that scammers are bassically encouraged to continue.
Hoppefully we'll see a real trading system coming some day...
'Cause you know, a guildmate used to make fun of me and to say the same things as both of you, until he sold something for 100g instead of 100k...
Maybe the staff got other things to do, but letting the scammers run free just make the game less enjoyable to play. Anet may loose some customers, If they'r told beforehand that they'r tons of jerks in the community, and that scammers are bassically encouraged to continue.
Hoppefully we'll see a real trading system coming some day...
'Cause you know, a guildmate used to make fun of me and to say the same things as both of you, until he sold something for 100g instead of 100k...
Gli
TOA Ecto-gold scammers are becoming a real nuisance. 9 out of 10 people who 'WTB ecto' offer gold lately, instead of platinum.
Because I loathe spending time spamming the trade channel to sell my stuff, I just hold on to it until I spot someone wanting to buy when I'm in town for some reason. That's really not working anymore, I'm wasting even more time trying to sell that way. It's gotten so bad that I'm developing a tendency to automatically click the cancel button on the trade window.
Screw those guys.
Because I loathe spending time spamming the trade channel to sell my stuff, I just hold on to it until I spot someone wanting to buy when I'm in town for some reason. That's really not working anymore, I'm wasting even more time trying to sell that way. It's gotten so bad that I'm developing a tendency to automatically click the cancel button on the trade window.
Screw those guys.
Darcy
Back to the OP's question: No, you are not wasting your time by reporting misbehavior of any kind. Anet/Ncsoft might do nothing visible to you or the community, but they will investigate an account with multiple complaints and punish persistent scammers. They will not give back anything you lost, whether gold or items, as they have no way to determine the truth of your particular report (a scamming transaction can be faked between partners).
With enough complaints They will assign an employee to watch that account's characters. That employee will submit a report and if the decision is reached that that account-holder is guilty of persistent scamming, his/her account will be banned. Bans are usually for a few days the first time, increasing in length for future violations. If the account-holder continuously breaks the rules, his/her account(s) will be permanently banned and registration of a new account forbidden.
With enough complaints They will assign an employee to watch that account's characters. That employee will submit a report and if the decision is reached that that account-holder is guilty of persistent scamming, his/her account will be banned. Bans are usually for a few days the first time, increasing in length for future violations. If the account-holder continuously breaks the rules, his/her account(s) will be permanently banned and registration of a new account forbidden.
wilebill
Playing since release, I think only one person has ever tried to scam me, and it was the "g" instead of "plat" trick. I said, "lol", and he changed it to plat, so maybe it was even an accident.
Roshi_ikkyu
If you get scammed by the Gold for plat trick, you deserve it.
There is no grand trick or gimic, like other scams.
And every time I hear about it I always laugh.
As for Anet banning small time scammers, they have more important things to do beside making sure you know how to reason a description.
Like banning haxors and gold bots.... oh and this thing callled Nightfall, it kinda important.
There is no grand trick or gimic, like other scams.
And every time I hear about it I always laugh.
As for Anet banning small time scammers, they have more important things to do beside making sure you know how to reason a description.
Like banning haxors and gold bots.... oh and this thing callled Nightfall, it kinda important.
Smile Like Umean It
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Yestarday this idiot tried to give me mursaat tokens instead of ectos , i just laughed at him lol.
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PanGammon
Well back when I started I got scammed quite a few times. All those scams I've reported: The scammers still run around online (added on my friends list to track their ban status) causing havoc and denying they scammed me..............
Scammers NEVER get banned.......If I didn't think scamming was morally wrong, I'd be one myself..............
Scammers NEVER get banned.......If I didn't think scamming was morally wrong, I'd be one myself..............
taffette
Lol! I came across one in Old Ascalon a few months back who was scamming the usual Runescape-for-GW gold stuff - when I challenged him on it he gave me a load of bragging and abuse via whisper. So I screenied it, sent it in and lo and behold! Haven't seen him on for months (I put him on my friends list to keep an eye out... )
No idea if it was Anet that banned him or if he just stopped coming on but hey, a result is a result...
)No idea if it was Anet that banned him or if he just stopped coming on but hey, a result is a result...
Julen
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If you get scammed by the Gold for plat trick, you deserve it.
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Moist Muffin
The scam that has affected me alot lately is selling crafting materials. They ask for an amount of lets say taned hides for example, wtb 205 taned hides 12g ea. I say sure and put 205 hides in the window and they put 2plat and 46gold instead of 2 plat and 460 gold. At first I figured they were making a mistake or slow in the head but when its happening several times a night by different people its intentional. Now instead of correcting the trade I cancel the trade and move on to the next possible buyer. I could care a less if they get there hides and like hearing them whine about being sorry for the next 15 minutes. Its always at Drocs dist 1, at least for me. FYI
I cant believe someone would be that desperate for 400 +/- or whatever gold. Its so easy to aquire just playing the game.
I cant believe someone would be that desperate for 400 +/- or whatever gold. Its so easy to aquire just playing the game.
badseed
I think the more troubling thing, is the people who have to cheat others out of there item or money. Yes you should check as I always do. I have had people try to give me gold not plat, I have had people try to sell me customized weapons etc.
Its one thing you should always do is check money, item etc. I always wait till item is up then wait and check everything. Also watch for people who change items on you. I have had this a few times as well.
I think its a sad thing where people can only earn money from ripping others off. But 99% of the time it could be avoided if you just slow down and take 10 seconds to check over everything.
As in any game people cheat. Its the only way for them to move forward. When you have no skills (and it does not take much in GW), this is what happens. Mistakes happen but really it shows you are dealing with someone, who can only do this to get anywhere.
Its one thing you should always do is check money, item etc. I always wait till item is up then wait and check everything. Also watch for people who change items on you. I have had this a few times as well.
I think its a sad thing where people can only earn money from ripping others off. But 99% of the time it could be avoided if you just slow down and take 10 seconds to check over everything.
As in any game people cheat. Its the only way for them to move forward. When you have no skills (and it does not take much in GW), this is what happens. Mistakes happen but really it shows you are dealing with someone, who can only do this to get anywhere.
Sasuke The Betrayer
Sigh, I fell for a scam like 2 months ago in ToA. It's so annoying. "WTS Ecto 5k"... I trade... because I was gonna sell it off real quick and do another run with my SS partner. The guy trades me a mursaat token, and i click accept on instinct. I look up then and realize I had made a huge mistake and the person clicks accept. I tell em I screenshoted everything, which I did afterwards and they beg for forgiveness. I ignore them and don't report it, I'll just let the noob feel self conscious about what he did.
Vampiro ICP
By the way from an anets staffs own words "We expect the players to play with honour." Thats what they told when I was screwed out of a drop.
Raved
i just say be careful and deal with the scammers in an orderly manner....flame them!!!!!
hobbitshd
Why not POST a 3 strike and your out rule. Perfect for the ToA idiots (bots/scammers) that want to buy ecto for 7k even when the trader hits 7k ><
If you put 7g, instead of 7plat one time - it could be a mistake BUT if it happens 3 times in a row - OBVIOUSLY OBVIOUSLY OBVIOUSLY a scammer or a bot. Especially if they do it 3 consecutive times and in the same trading session - I had to test it
They have it posted on the sign in screen - 3rd party programs - so enforce it.
For the first 3 strikes, ban for 3 days. Next 3, permanent ban. BUY-Bye!!!
For the original poster = absolutely screen shot and report. If anet/ncsoft get enough complaints about the same account (especially in a short amount of time) - they have banned accounts in the past. I just wish they would post SPECIFIC INFRACTIONS - PROMINENTLY so everyone sees it.
Post something about bannable (sp?) infractions - what is accepted and what is not and more importantly what the penalty is for these infractions
If you put 7g, instead of 7plat one time - it could be a mistake BUT if it happens 3 times in a row - OBVIOUSLY OBVIOUSLY OBVIOUSLY a scammer or a bot. Especially if they do it 3 consecutive times and in the same trading session - I had to test it
They have it posted on the sign in screen - 3rd party programs - so enforce it.
For the first 3 strikes, ban for 3 days. Next 3, permanent ban. BUY-Bye!!!
For the original poster = absolutely screen shot and report. If anet/ncsoft get enough complaints about the same account (especially in a short amount of time) - they have banned accounts in the past. I just wish they would post SPECIFIC INFRACTIONS - PROMINENTLY so everyone sees it.
Post something about bannable (sp?) infractions - what is accepted and what is not and more importantly what the penalty is for these infractions
Amity and Truth
Meh.
The amount of scammers has greatly increased in the last days. Everytime i zone into a district someone is trying to pull off a scam or complaining he was scammed.
In every single damn Trade the other one tries to scam me in one way or another. Putting a wrong weapon, placing gold instead of plat etc etc. Of course that doesn't work but it's just the sheer amount of attempts that is annoying.
Whats especially funny is a certain guild that tries to scam people with quest items.
First there will be a person spamming wtb in the local chat. He is mostly buying Cantha Collector or Questitem Stuff (like the tattered bear or Soul Stones) with flashy names for insane prices like 90 Plat.
A few seconds later a second person appears and well lo and behold, pure coincidence i guess, he wants to sell just the exact same item the other person wants to buy for 40 Plat. Meh. Pity is, a few folks have fallen for it, thinking they made a quick and dirty trade.
The amount of scammers has greatly increased in the last days. Everytime i zone into a district someone is trying to pull off a scam or complaining he was scammed.
In every single damn Trade the other one tries to scam me in one way or another. Putting a wrong weapon, placing gold instead of plat etc etc. Of course that doesn't work but it's just the sheer amount of attempts that is annoying.
Whats especially funny is a certain guild that tries to scam people with quest items.
First there will be a person spamming wtb in the local chat. He is mostly buying Cantha Collector or Questitem Stuff (like the tattered bear or Soul Stones) with flashy names for insane prices like 90 Plat.
A few seconds later a second person appears and well lo and behold, pure coincidence i guess, he wants to sell just the exact same item the other person wants to buy for 40 Plat. Meh. Pity is, a few folks have fallen for it, thinking they made a quick and dirty trade.
Riotact
I buy and sell heaps of high end minipets, shiro, rurik, bone dragon etc. i have never fallen for a scam.
at least 8 out of 10 people who want to trade try to scam me.
i use to say please dont attempt to scam me blar blar blar but now its F%&$ OFF Scamming C$^&!!! and i often get the reply, your using abusive language im reporting u.
i always take screen shots or frapp the whole trade.
there needs to b a way we can beat the piss out of scammers.
at least 8 out of 10 people who want to trade try to scam me.
i use to say please dont attempt to scam me blar blar blar but now its F%&$ OFF Scamming C$^&!!! and i often get the reply, your using abusive language im reporting u.
i always take screen shots or frapp the whole trade.
there needs to b a way we can beat the piss out of scammers.
JamesDonaldson
I've been run a few times, mostly to mission locations I couldn't find in the Desert. Personally I've found runners to be the friendliest players in Guild Wars. In my opinion, Scammers are those millions and 3 people selling "Morons useless Hammers of Stupidity" for 35K, or "Jungle Troll Mini-Pet of Uselessness" for 100K.
Everyone knows how long it takes to make money in Guild Wars and I seriously would like to meet the idiots who would fork out 50K for some item no better than the max-damage items at 5K.
Go to the International District in the Desert (GW1) and you'll find them full of Monks of every size and second profession, some even running in circles and none saying a word, on any channel. My team and I spent a full half-hour cracking jokes and laughing at this site.
Everyone knows how long it takes to make money in Guild Wars and I seriously would like to meet the idiots who would fork out 50K for some item no better than the max-damage items at 5K.
Go to the International District in the Desert (GW1) and you'll find them full of Monks of every size and second profession, some even running in circles and none saying a word, on any channel. My team and I spent a full half-hour cracking jokes and laughing at this site.
badseed
I have a list, its easy enough. People who have tried to scam me. Or people who are getting there name spammed in general, cause they tried or just scammed someone else.
I do not deal with them. Buying or selling. Be nice to have a thread like this, but to easy to abuse if you do not do it yourself.
I notice as well. A LOT MORE people lately are scamming. There is one "K. W." that is in general chat about scamming almost daily it seems.
I wish we had an auction house. be alot easier buying/selling and can get rid of scamming on selling/buying.
If someone scams you I would just screen shot the convo, get time date zone and dist. Go to guild wars site report it. if enough people report the same person on scamming, they might do something. Not sure if each time something is reported against them, if it flags there account so they can keep track.
I do not deal with them. Buying or selling. Be nice to have a thread like this, but to easy to abuse if you do not do it yourself.
I notice as well. A LOT MORE people lately are scamming. There is one "K. W." that is in general chat about scamming almost daily it seems.
I wish we had an auction house. be alot easier buying/selling and can get rid of scamming on selling/buying.
If someone scams you I would just screen shot the convo, get time date zone and dist. Go to guild wars site report it. if enough people report the same person on scamming, they might do something. Not sure if each time something is reported against them, if it flags there account so they can keep track.
Venus was her name
I've been scammed twice in gw
once when i was a noob i bought a nolani wand for 10k (HoD wand..LOL)
other time was a few weeks back...when i got impateint at buyer and lost 6 ecto, for like 40g or something like that.
the 1st time..i was a victim of my own noobness and didnt report the guy, the 2nd time i DID report the guy, and i had friends add his name to their friends list to see if he came on at all over the next few days.
he didnt surface at all..which makes me think he got banned, it was the nightfall PvE weekend..i would like to think he missed it becuase of me.
anyway when i or a guildy get scammed we get all our alliance members who are online to continously spam the scammer with SCAMMER!. the idea behind this is to make the scammers account unplayable, as there is a limit to ignore places.
once when i was a noob i bought a nolani wand for 10k (HoD wand..LOL)
other time was a few weeks back...when i got impateint at buyer and lost 6 ecto, for like 40g or something like that.
the 1st time..i was a victim of my own noobness and didnt report the guy, the 2nd time i DID report the guy, and i had friends add his name to their friends list to see if he came on at all over the next few days.
he didnt surface at all..which makes me think he got banned, it was the nightfall PvE weekend..i would like to think he missed it becuase of me.
anyway when i or a guildy get scammed we get all our alliance members who are online to continously spam the scammer with SCAMMER!. the idea behind this is to make the scammers account unplayable, as there is a limit to ignore places.
Smile Like Umean It
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anyway when i or a guildy get scammed we get all our alliance members who are online to continously spam the scammer with SCAMMER!. the idea behind this is to make the scammers account unplayable, as there is a limit to ignore places.
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And I get that scammers are the lowest of the low in GW, but I don't think you and your buddies harassing them is the way to go.
Report them and let Anet handle them. If they don't do anything then put the scammer on your ignore list and warn your friends and alliance members about him/her.
Lykan
Most scammers in ToA are idiots anyway, this guy tried the gold for plat trick on me yesterday. The thing is I knew before I started the trade that he would do it.
I went in to sell a few ecto "Selling Ecto for 6.5" I said. Right away this guys pm's me saying "I'll buy for 7p Each". Ding ding ding , alarm bells!
I started trade anyway and then when he tried to scam me i called him names and spammed his name in Local for 10 minutes.
I went in to sell a few ecto "Selling Ecto for 6.5" I said. Right away this guys pm's me saying "I'll buy for 7p Each". Ding ding ding , alarm bells!
I started trade anyway and then when he tried to scam me i called him names and spammed his name in Local for 10 minutes.