Solo HA!

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me



(Thanks to Dragasa for the image)

So, you, 3 Heroes, and 2 Henchmen can enter HA. Now you can technically solo Heroes' Ascent!

Now no one can complain that fame is too difficult to obtain!

Henchway has occasional success. Henchway with Heroes will have even better success.

supaet

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

I think that went overboard with it, who will still play ra when you can play with 3 heroes in TA. Can pvp only chars use heroes? Are heroes universal to every char to the account? can't wait to find out.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

"Heroes" are the new henchies so they will be for PvE.

GloryFox

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

Now this does look fun... lol... HA will never be the same.. Great idea ANET!

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

Pfft... add me in your group and you'll have no success at all! lol

I wonder how many heroes will be available to select from?

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

http://www.guildwars.com/support/gameupdates/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Updates
Hero Battles - After the release of Nightfall you will be able to unlock Heroes for your use with your PvP characters, and you will be able to bring Heroes into a new type of PvP where players can compete head-to-head for the first time.
Yes, PvP characters can use Heroes. Yes, it makes no sense.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Skullcrasher
I wonder how many heroes will be available to select from?
Current data seems to suggest that we get, at most, 2 of each profession.

ArenaNet has stated that we can only have 3 per PC in a party.

The truth itself

The truth itself

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark

First Degree

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
http://www.guildwars.com/support/gameupdates/

Yes, PvP characters can use Heroes. Yes, it makes no sense.

Current data seems to suggest that we get, at most, 2 of each profession.

ArenaNet has stated that we can only have 3 per PC in a party.


:-/

No bspiking heroes..

GG rainbow spike

I'm so going to have a ranger hero distracter!

Or Heroway, Hiway (Hero Iway?)

Divinus Stella

Divinus Stella

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Wales

Steel Phoenix

2 PD heros and a warrior with skullcrack, with the insane NPC reactions itll be imba :P

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

Yes, you can play with 3 of your heroes, but can you react 3 times as fast?

(I'm sure someone is gonna claim "yes")

Mystic-

Mystic-

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

yes

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

Any team that can't beat a team with Heroes on it deserves the loss that will be coming to them.

Therefore the ability to take Heros into any PVP mode is great. Except for RA in which case Heros should not be allowed.

Fluffyx

Fluffyx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Courtney PantsuLand

Death By Teazu [TEA]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
http://www.guildwars.com/support/gameupdates/

Yes, PvP characters can use Heroes. Yes, it makes no sense.

Current data seems to suggest that we get, at most, 2 of each profession.

ArenaNet has stated that we can only have 3 per PC in a party.
I think I remember hearing that Heroes will be awarded through PvE means but I'm sure they won't leave pvpers out.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Navaros
Any team that can't beat a team with Heroes on it deserves the loss that will be coming to them.
Heroes have the same damage potential. A team with 1 smart player and 3 heroes is better than a team with 4 dumb players.

(See? I finally answered one of your questions. )

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

Those 4 players has got to be really, really, really, horribly, terribly, awfully, stupidly retarded beyond belief. LOL

lishi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

everone seem thinking if you give to a dump bot a decent skillbar he will be able to play it.

well that wont happen.

you wont be able mesmer hero do contantly shoutdown enemy prot monk elite , while interupting someone else , spamming diversion around.

like you cant tell to the hero to cast the fireball in the middle of a ball of squish caster group instead of your target etc etc etc.

plus imo probably you wont able to take more then 4 hero on HA (like henchmen)

Rathcail

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by supaet
I think that went overboard with it, who will still play ra when you can play with 3 heroes in TA.
Since when has TA had henchies in it?

supaet

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Gaile said you can take them to hoh, gvg, ETC.

so I don't know. But I don't think I will play 6v6 hoh with 2 other humans and 3 heroes. Or at least include a hero somewhere in the team. I mean, losing to hench/heroes way with full human team is xxxxxx up. Won't even give myself that chance.

I mean, unless I get in a pvp guild or something, or everyone in my team is around my rank. In 6v6 every player counts.

Cowboy Nastyman

Cowboy Nastyman

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Me/Mo

note that gaile said you can take them anywhere you can take henches, both ha and gvg have henches, TA however does not so no you wont be able to use them in TA.

M1h4iL

M1h4iL

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Perth, Australia

Finally you don't need to wait for hours to get a good monk in missions , like THK, or Gayla Hatchery and bring your own Monk Hero. Pugs>Hench>Heroes>Guildmates

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

A/

M1h4iL, you mean Pugs<Hench<Heroes<Guildies<Solo

Warmaster Patton

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Insanity

Vis Decus Vertus [vDv]

R/

it's really really really sad if you lose to a team with 5 AI player, even if there's a humnan sorta controlling 3 of them. 6 humans can kick 5 AI's and 1 human's tail feathers.

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

W/

A.I. reflexes>99.99% of human's. A clever player with a well-tested group of heroes only has 2 sub-par party members(henches). There are probably enough HoH PuGs that are, shall we say, sub-par, for such a player to achieve modest success.

Tozen

Tozen

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

All Senses Failed [aSF]

A/N

An amazing idea. If this happens I'm going to be in HA about all the time.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Well, I'm gonna miss the PvP days. Nows its PAIvPAI.

Helcaraxe

Helcaraxe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

On top of a mountain

A Bad Moon Rising [Moon]

Me/Mo

tbh, I feel heroes are the worst thing to happen to this game... and now that I know they can replace players in HA... it just confirms my thoughts

Arcador

Arcador

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

--

R/N

Probably heroes will be only avaiable for the new pvp type, not in every normal pvp arena.

daraaksii

daraaksii

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

wammo heroes!!!!111!!!!1!!One!

no more real pvp in GW.

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcador
Probably heroes will be only avaiable for the new pvp type, not in every normal pvp arena.
While we can not always take her word for everything (because as hard as it is for some to admit it, she is merely charged with telling us what she is told, not a part of the development teams), Gaile Gray has stated that Heroes will be available wherever Henchmen are. This includes, but is not limited to, GvG and HA.

Though as this was shown in the original post, I don't see where you get your response from...

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by daraaksii
wammo heroes!!!!111!!!!1!!One!

no more real pvp in GW.
Balanced ranked pros 6 real people will be winning HA as always.

Soloing HA? Very good IMO, I will try that for sure; But I am sure the only I will accomplish is farm some fame in the 2 or 3 first maps.

Anyway, nobody is 100% sure if you can use 3 heroes + 2 henchies, maybe heroes count as henchies, and you need at least 2 real person + 4 heroes/henchies for enter HA.

Empex

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

I'm guessing that there will be a limit at maximum three heroes per party or something in HA. Also, this won't work in TA since there's no henchmen there.

Poison Ivy

Poison Ivy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Toronto

Hopping

Mo/A

HA is pretty much screwed with all these changes...thank god I don't give a crap about fame

feAr^

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Portugal

Group Therapy [HUG]

R/

lol 6v6 -.-

akh

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

Europe

FTW

A/E

Whats wrong with hero-henchway in HA ? Every experienced guild/team will slaughter henchway regardless of build. Heroes are powerful PvE tools but cmon you can't effective command 3 heroes + yourself in PvP where everything happens fast. Heroes will allow less experienced PvPers to try out HA/TA without being called 'low ranked noob'. That's ok, isn't it ?

Bale_Shadowscar

Bale_Shadowscar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

New Dragons [NDR]

RA will be the only hero free place :O

Not that I mind. Heroes look ace and I can't wait to start playing them. I can finally test out a load of crazy team build ideas on my own instead of trying to get random people to help me

Xeeron

Xeeron

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Strike Force

Quote:
Originally Posted by Diablo™
Those 4 players has got to be really, really, really, horribly, terribly, awfully, stupidly retarded beyond belief. LOL
You wait till my mesmer hero interrupts all your 1/2 spells, while my rainbow spike heros ALL follow my target call instantly, unlike most pugs. Not going to claim it is better than a good human group, but the average pug will struggle.

- Xeeron

Franco

Franco

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2006

England

VoB

Me/

wow, now i know teh first skill to give to all my heroes, IWAY and VIM . lol

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

The hero's people bring into missions/quests/pvp will only be as good as people set them up to be. and seeing some of the builds ive seen people running, its going to still be a joke.

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Do the heroes interrupt only called targets (or otherwise randomly)? If so, then this in itself would make a 3 hero/2 henchie team almost worthless, other than for a gimmick spike.

Alleji

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Rofl

I'm gonna rspike with 2 ranger heroes in HA

DeathandtheHealing

DeathandtheHealing

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2006

In a PVE GUILD YAY! :P

Me/Mo

lol that will be a lot of fun

we just beat rift this weekend in HA with henchie way smite although its not the good old rift cry