Hero Discrimination

Actually, you can do better than that. You have complete control of their actions using the hero panel and map controls. You could have them rez you when you feel it safe, or you could just use 1 to fight or have the monk run and then close in for rebirths.

im not going to argue I know what works as I use it and it does work simple as that.

This thread is going nowhere and should be closed no one has said why there is going be discrimination just a bunch of mindless players having ago at a class.

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Grab a book about coding. Come back, re-read. Understand that your post is void.

No need. I just cut and pasted perl's output. If you are not able to spot your syntax error, it is you who needs to "grab a book about coding".

*shrugs*
I never said it was Perl.

Congratulations on using the one f*cked up language that insists on a rat tail of unneeded code gibberish. There is no syntax error in it if you use better languages.

lol, Perl


Anyway, I'm outfitting my heroes they way I want to them to play according to each of my professions. I'm pretty sure I'll be using at least 1 monk hero for each character, but I will probably not want to cater the way I've been playing because 1 person whom I've never played with before wants me to set up my team in a certain way.

LOL. That was good, I have to admit...

To be fair, you are the only one with the problem.

So, I used a W/Mo as an example. Not a direct attack.

But, I still believe in the W/Mo stereotype, because it's undeniable.

I'll prove something to you, Tien ak: I'll create the build mentioned on the OP. I'll ask for a PuG. I'll let a W/Mo and his heroes join.

Then...I shall screenshot the disupte.

I only said it was Ironic you were talking about discrimination yet you dicriminate against W/Mo.

And you can try and prove that your build will work but your jackass characters remark towards your build would never happen unless you put four warriors on you team...and if W/Mo is such a bad class why do you invite them anyway?

So to sum up your question to Hero Discrimination is the only discrimination there is going to be is against the Assasins and W/Mo as there so bad. And the truth of it all is people are arrogant for some reason they will say "don't put X and Y hero in cuz their noobs" and what do you do when they say that? kick em out your party more than likely they don't know what their doing grab a mature player (which is rare I know) or replace with hench, simple so there is no need to worry about it...to be honest it's simple common sence but meh.

Obviously this thread is going to have people like Amity and Truth who is going to just keep saying "W/Mo's are shit and there all noobs I hate Discrimating Wammo noobs!" but what the hell let him rant and rave all day for all I care. If you hate a class so much grab a hench of that class simple as that if thats not enough then you really don't have a reason to moan certianly when Nightfall comes out, heck you should be happy about it not complaining that other players won't agree with what you think is right, if your going to say "well you've been defending W/Mo..." that's beacuse im making a point, your all yelling and moaning about how W/Mo are Discrimating against whatever yet you do the exact the same...you say W/Mo are arse holes yet you call em Noobs Wammos etc.

Do you get what im trying to point out?

True but you miss the point, if I dont know how to do a certain mission then a PuG will be my first choice, if I fail then I'll fall back to Heroes and give it a bash.

OH SHIT IT DOESNT WORK WITH MY FORTRAN COMPILER EITHER

For me, using computers to play instead of real people is just weak. Where's the excitement in that? I don't see any fun in it whatsoever, whenever I use henchies I am just flatout bored. Yeah, it might be easier in some situations with this new hero thing, but its not like this is a hard game. Besides, when you use real people the drops are still going to be 10 times better. Frustration level might be increased a little, but in my opinion playing with yourself will get you nowhere. It's all about the PuGs or guilds for PvE. Maybe that's just cause I'm not as anal as most of you seem to be.

I'd rather not try to do a mission 16 times with pugs when I can finish it once with henches.

*cough* wammos suck *cough*, anyone who thinks otherwise... stay outta my group!

Actually with the addition of flail I can see decent pure warrior builds now for pve. Rez can come in handy on the warrior and stuff but only if you can create a decent build without the use of your secondary. Still any warrior using like... gladiators defense, healing breeze, healing hands, bonettis, riposte, deadly riposte, auspicious parry, and, most importantly, mending, should be shot... in both kneecaps. Sad but true 99% of the time the people using these skills are wammos... every once in a while you get the W/E using kinetic armor and armor of earth but those are at least kinda rare.

A wammo with mainly attack skills, with the /mo for Rebirth (only) is fine. However, it's just not worth being a wammo, even to bring Rebirth for the team, because of too much discrimination -- so I just stick with W/N which is what I tend to use for PvP anyway. Also, PuGs aren't as good at removing conditions as Factions henchies, so plague touch is still a good investment for PvE PuGs.

yeah with the new system there is no need to ever pug again.

lol unless you're a w/mo with warrior only skills + rebirth, yes, you probably are shit..hahahaha.

Way to revive a dead thread.

Just curious, what do all of you people think is an acceptable warrior build for PvE? I usually play as a W/Mo for rebirth, and I usually bring along Mend Ailment because too many monks think only heal heal heal and don't bring any condition removal. That makes me a bad tank? Please, get over it.

Hmm Im gonna have 2 say 2-3 things(not sure what yet)

#1, Well, congratulations, you have encountered a 5 year old.


#2 You have encountered an a**hole

#3 Update Wednesday, December 13, 2006

*Players are now allowed to have 7 heroes in their party, therefore eliminating bugs* AKA a**holes.

Welcome to the wonderful world of PuGs, which due to heroes is almost dead. Honestly, I have actually seen stupider when playing in them. The cookie cutter mentality is irrelevant now because you can just design half a party and the cookie cutters haven't gotten that big yet. Give it a few months and things may change.

Well, definately not Mending and Live Vicariously.

And stop reviving my dead threads. Yes, my ideas are awesome. But occasionally dated.

Yeah that's how I been doing it. Just me and her (mine not yours), except my girl isn't my wife quite yet. But it helps cause she don't like the idiots anymore than I do and I don't like them at all, in fact if other people talk other than me it annoys her so yeah. We have fun exploring the world together, and will on our mesmers, rangers, monk and necro, my necro, my ele once I finish with her and her ele, our dervishes and she'll probably help me on my paragon.

Heroes, even though I do have some complaints, have pretty much been FTW for me as I'm starting to figure them out more and more. Margonites have not a chance against me as i can kill every of their casters in 10 hits non stop, with a Broad Head ranger, Hammer Warrior Koss, Earth Hero, 3 Monks a BiP/MM and an awesome fire ele (her!), most things fall before us, unless I pull bad or aggro is to tight or something like that. Otherwise we do pretty well for ourselves when we're paying attention to the game.... hehe.

So yeah one for the Heroes' that relieve me of having to use PUGs for anything. Since I was lucky (and apparently smart) enough to blast through the game right away, I know what every mission has in store, while it might be harder in some, she doesnt' get impatient and most likely it'd be me first but I don't like not having things finished. So we keep going at the mission and beat it eventually.

Forgot to add, the only think I will ever pug for ever again is FoW/UW or Masters that I cannot beat with Heroes and Henchies. Otherwise I rather not bother with rude people which I will get if I PUG cause I have bad luck.

Also a good revival of this thread as you might have noticed the thread against Heroes and for PUGs, well this is good competition for it.

I'm using Rebirth on Zinger's old threads!

Well, there are two resurrected threads in here (neither are actually my doing, if anyone was wondering based on the above comment) that I have seen so far, but they both are perfectly valid issues at the moment. Hopefully the resurrections will stop there, or else we get to debate the merits of soloing the Underworld with a 55 monk. Please no...

The W/Mo's biggest enemy is any spell that removes enchantments. Why? Because most of the monk healing and protection spells are enchantments. In some areas a W/Mo can be of great help, in others they are probably going to die unless they have good support or use tactics.

I have one W/Mo and all my other characters are casters or rangers. I've played enough with my warrior to know they are not useless. Not all of the people that have a W/Mo are jerks either. I've come across several jerks regardless of what proffesion they are playing.

People mess up during missions sometimes. Stop crying and move on. Not every player that uses a certain proffesion is going to suck. If warriors are so bad, why does everybody want at least one in their groups? Oh yeah I think people like you call them "meat shields".

Go tank with your necro. That should be fun.

Also I don't care if this an old thread. As long as this thread remains open people can still post their opinions. Not everybody saw this thread when you originally created it.

As far as the heros. I think they are great although I miss playing with groups full of real people. Yeah not all the groups were successful, but most of the time it was fun. Yet at the same time heros save me the headache of looking for a group that doesn't act like they follow a rule book on how a group should be built, and everybody else is trash.

GG

Mending is nub. HH makes my W/Mo invincible.

I can leeroy into the biggest clump on the radar (running through two smaller clumps on the way there), activate HH and then the poor monk has 12 seconds to catch up while I'm in god mode.

lol dervish

You're kidding right?

*Pettitions for an inbuilt sarcasm meter under peoples posts*

I Honestly do miss pugs, i met some awsome people doing them. I can, however live without them. My heroes are very talkitive.. >_>. *begin crazed laughter*

I'm so happy that one of my hero monk finally reached level 20. Hey Syria, if you need help let me know and we go kill something!

Just to let you know, peoples still think that Tanks are the best thing out there so don't be surprise if you see more peoples taking warrior heroes instead of supporting type.

It's great if you can support your own heros or another persons build. The only thing that i don't like about having a warrior bringing monk henches is that they'll be very likely attached to his hip when he goes charging into battle usng frenzy.

Threadnomancy FTW.

Anyways i dont think we have this "Hero Discrimination" problem now, since no one is PuGing anymore. (Not saying if this is a good or bad thing.)

Frenzied my way through the game with Koss as my leet sword warrior. He had frenzy and no cancel stance, we had no trouble eating through things with two monks on our back that have a decent skillset.

Yes this will happen. There are a lot of idiots in Guild Wars. However since you have a rather complex plan it would be wise of you to communicate such a thing when looking for others.

If you immediately expect people to understand or agree with your complex plan I do not believe you are being reasonable.

Team builds aren't simple, if you want to find people capable of understanding/adjusting/creating good team builds that involve multiple classes you will probably need to come up with ways screen out idiots.

Of course this is essentially recruiting and forming a guild ...