NC-Soft are awesome for one simple reason. Unlike most other gaming companies out there, they LISTEN.
City of Heroes/Villains - Capes were requested by fans. Trenchcoats. Wings. Henchmen. More costumes. Lots of popular ideas that people asked for were incorporated into the game.
Guild Wars - People wanted skills for Sins and Rits in Nightfall. Reduced size groups in PVP. Being able to play heroes across all chapters. Halloween event. Extra slots for characters. Increased storage space for materials. So on and so forth.
I very rarely see a game company LISTEN as much as NC-Soft do. As I've said, this isn't a suck up, it's just very refreshing to have a publisher that fans can make a suggestion to and they're actually considered. Wish other companies would take note.
Why NC-Soft are awesome - NOT a suck-up
KurtBatz
4thVariety
Their continued interest also originates from the will to keep their business model / franchise alive.
This is not a way of doing business unique to NCSoft. All major corporations try to increase the quality of their product by making it appeal to the largest audience possible. Some just do not ask around as openly as ANet/ NCSoft.
This is not a way of doing business unique to NCSoft. All major corporations try to increase the quality of their product by making it appeal to the largest audience possible. Some just do not ask around as openly as ANet/ NCSoft.
Yanman.be
I don't think NCsoft "listened". They might have given instructions to A.net and other developers, to listen, but NCsoft doesn't manage the game content.
dansamy
NCSoft signs Anet's checks. I guarantee you that they "gently encourage" incorporating the most popular fan ideas if it's technologically possible to do so.
Unkillable Cat
Im stillwaiting for the auction house we have been asking for since early in chapter 1
Mister_Smiley
ya their good to their fans which is why i will keep buying Guildwars exps. Their a smart company.
BTW: Cat auction house is comming, when sometime after nightfall is out and has really no need for patchs. It will most likey come out a few months like the materials storage did. Just gotta wait.
BTW: Cat auction house is comming, when sometime after nightfall is out and has really no need for patchs. It will most likey come out a few months like the materials storage did. Just gotta wait.
swiftygem
The other game I play is Battlefield 2 from the giant EA and I couldnt agree more with the OP. Anet (or NCSoft) is truly amazing, whereas EA's BF2 managed to destroy a great Battlefield community. Every patch they make arrives several days or even weeks late and then it creates more bugs than it fixes. And listening to the players, big no-no. No one cares.
GW is a complete opposite. Patch almost very week with some cool stuff, stable, running at quite crappy computers... And this game runs off only 2 files! I couldnt believe it when first saw the content of GW folder. Wanna install your game on another computer? Burn the folder to DVD, copy to the other computer and run. It will "install" itself on the first run. Brilliant. Great programming, great game, great people at Anet!
GW is a complete opposite. Patch almost very week with some cool stuff, stable, running at quite crappy computers... And this game runs off only 2 files! I couldnt believe it when first saw the content of GW folder. Wanna install your game on another computer? Burn the folder to DVD, copy to the other computer and run. It will "install" itself on the first run. Brilliant. Great programming, great game, great people at Anet!
Stockholm
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NCSoft signs Anet's checks. I guarantee you that they "gently encourage" incorporating the most popular fan ideas if it's technologically possible to do so.
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Jeremy Untouchable
Brilliant Brilliant Brilliant, We love them, you love them, If you dont someone from this furom will shank you..................Just kidding. No good Job Alex and gaile, this is the first time that the people who play the game get to feel like this is "their" game. You get a chance to design weapons in game? where else? fans make new capes,emblems ext. wonderful game
Mordakai
Anet is awesome, I don't know so much about NCSoft.
I think NCSoft could make a lot more money if they offered all their "monthly subscription" games for a discounted monthly price. I'm not sure how they would split the profits, but one reason Auto Assault failed is because no one was playing.
But think about it: If I could play Auto Assault, CoH & CoV, Tabula Rosa, and all the other pay-to-play NCSoft titles for one monthly fee, that would be very tempting....
I think NCSoft could make a lot more money if they offered all their "monthly subscription" games for a discounted monthly price. I'm not sure how they would split the profits, but one reason Auto Assault failed is because no one was playing.
But think about it: If I could play Auto Assault, CoH & CoV, Tabula Rosa, and all the other pay-to-play NCSoft titles for one monthly fee, that would be very tempting....
CHUIU
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Actually, A-net is a separet company who happens to be ownd by NC-Soft, so A-net signs the checks, then NC-Soft get's whats left after expences are taken care off.
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I'm pretty sure that all aspects of suggestions/bug reports and such are taken care of 100% by Anet and not NCSoft. Though recently it looks like NCSoft has adapted (or incorporated) the support system Anet has been using for all their products which makes it looks like NCSoft is actually behind the changes.
Horseman Of War
I recently discovered the "auction house" concept is stolen from WoW... which gives me just one more reason to say "NO THANKS WE DONT NEED IT!"
Shanaeri Rynale
The are some things that AN are preparted to change, no capes, mini pets etc and some they will not even though the majority of players hate it, Favor, elite missions for example.
Personally, for some things like reconnects I would happily delay Nightfall for.
Personally, for some things like reconnects I would happily delay Nightfall for.
Charlie Martel
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I recently discovered the "auction house" concept is stolen from WoW... which gives me just one more reason to say "NO THANKS WE DONT NEED IT!"
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Bankai
Yeah, designers listening to their fans is great.
I present you http://www.threerings.net. These guys have been in the new a bit lately, since they just started working on an online rpg, and it was a success. They're making quite a lot of money with their unique pay-to-play system and gaining popularity.
However, the best thing is that they always listen to their gamers. 2 of the developers are in I think the top 3 posters of the forum. All the GMs are also just talking with the normal players. No such thing as a difference in rank or something. They treat everybody equal, and just discuss things. The great thing about this is that they A) Don't need any supporting fansites, as they run their own wikicities and forums and B) They can announce coming features and have people discuss them with them.
It's great.
I present you http://www.threerings.net. These guys have been in the new a bit lately, since they just started working on an online rpg, and it was a success. They're making quite a lot of money with their unique pay-to-play system and gaining popularity.
However, the best thing is that they always listen to their gamers. 2 of the developers are in I think the top 3 posters of the forum. All the GMs are also just talking with the normal players. No such thing as a difference in rank or something. They treat everybody equal, and just discuss things. The great thing about this is that they A) Don't need any supporting fansites, as they run their own wikicities and forums and B) They can announce coming features and have people discuss them with them.
It's great.
Sir Skullcrasher
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Im stillwaiting for the auction house we have been asking for since early in chapter 1
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dansamy
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Enchanted Warrior
They would be awesome if requested things were added to current versions, not new versions so they grab more cash
Gigashadow
I don't know how much NCSoft really has to do with the design or implementation of anything in ArenaNet's Guild Wars -- probably very little, outside of billing.
I do however really love the design of everything in Guild Wars. Just about every design point makes a lot of sense. No travel time, no farming consumables, no nuisance factors for a class (conjure water, soul shards, inner fire, feeding pet, etc.). And when things are in game that don't make sense (e.g. way way back you couldn't arbitrarily change attribute points around in town, which was inconsistent with the ability to change skills in town), they fix it.
I do however really love the design of everything in Guild Wars. Just about every design point makes a lot of sense. No travel time, no farming consumables, no nuisance factors for a class (conjure water, soul shards, inner fire, feeding pet, etc.). And when things are in game that don't make sense (e.g. way way back you couldn't arbitrarily change attribute points around in town, which was inconsistent with the ability to change skills in town), they fix it.
Monkey Blonde
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BTW: Cat auction house is comming, when sometime after nightfall is out and has really no need for patchs. It will most likey come out a few months like the materials storage did. Just gotta wait.
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Originally Posted by KurtBatz
NC-Soft are awesome for one simple reason. Unlike most other gaming companies out there, they LISTEN.
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ANet = good.
NCSoft = needs to get their butts in gear.
tomcruisejr
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Originally Posted by Gigashadow
I don't know how much NCSoft really has to do with the design or implementation of anything in ArenaNet's Guild Wars -- probably very little, outside of billing.
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GW - New business model, new game, new source of cash for NCSoft.
Arcueid13
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I recently discovered the "auction house" concept is stolen from WoW... which gives me just one more reason to say "NO THANKS WE DONT NEED IT!"
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SPIRIT OF THE SEA
GUYS! well i 100% agree they listen way better then other compinaies you guys are arguing that o i want auction house i want mount things like that suchs things as theese are extremly hard! NC soft is working there hardest and is constantly updatiing to make sure ur play with them is a fun one if they offered acution house or mount hell ill take it but its something that they cant do at the monment - yes i know im not a NC soft member but gaile has told us a meeting the info i provided
Alias_X
Consider all the things Anet has done that we don't agree with. I don't know about you, but I payed $50 for this game. For the most part, I got what I paid for. It is Anet's job to keep me happy.
Skuld
It's ANet's job to make a game that will sell to the masses. I don't know where you got your idea from.
Stockholm
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Thats as close you can get to how it really works without getting technical, Anet is just a part of NCSoft.
I'm pretty sure that all aspects of suggestions/bug reports and such are taken care of 100% by Anet and not NCSoft. Though recently it looks like NCSoft has adapted (or incorporated) the support system Anet has been using for all their products which makes it looks like NCSoft is actually behind the changes. |
It just streamlines the support system when you have many games owned by the same Corporation,
5 games and 5 separet support departments or 5 games and 1 support department you do the math lol
Azadaleou
Ncsoft sucks, look at Lineage 2. Suggestions NEVER get implemented unless they come from korea. You better thank Anet for this good game not nc because they don't do sh*t.
Commander Ryker
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Knightsaber Sith
It is cool how they listen, but I think you can chalk that up to Anet and Cryptic Studios rather than NCSoft.
just rude
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Originally Posted by Stockholm
Play-NC is the support company ( a separet company just like A-Net) that handles all NC-Soft games, seams like a switchboard that screens and directs the questions worth developers attention to the appropriet developers.
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For more proof look here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCsoft, and I will show the difference in this paragragh:
Lineage II and released it in South Korea on October 1, 2003, and in the United States on April 28, 2004. NCsoft is also the publisher for Guild Wars (developed by their subsidiary ArenaNet) and the MMORPGs City of Heroes and City of Villains (developed by Cryptic Studios).
Notice that City was developed BY Critptic, and GW, BY their SUBSIDIARY.
NC=ANET=NC
PERIOD
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and with AION coming out how much love is left for GW
xXa1
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Ncsoft sucks, look at Lineage 2. Suggestions NEVER get implemented unless they come from korea. You better thank Anet for this good game not nc because they don't do sh*t.
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therefore, it makes all sense why ncsoft designs everything in relation to lineage 2 with the korean market in mind and not the rest of the world market.
coh/cov and gw however are designed primarily with the west as its primary market and thus listens intently to this market and adjust the game as the markets demands it.
Terra Xin
I don't mean to state the obvious, but, auction houses originated from... Auction houses. Whichever one was the first game to have auction houses doesnt really deserve a cookie.
The first auction house I recall seeing was when I was... 13. 7 years ago, a game called RedMoon. So it's really nothing new.
The first auction house I recall seeing was when I was... 13. 7 years ago, a game called RedMoon. So it's really nothing new.
warban
NC Soft Europe is the devil when it comes to exchange rates for Australia with the official store.
NCSoft Do not listen they just run the servers. NCSoft America Simply Sells Guild Wars out to the rest of the NCsoft Groups around the world.
Each works independently even though they share the same name.
NCSoft Do not listen they just run the servers. NCSoft America Simply Sells Guild Wars out to the rest of the NCsoft Groups around the world.
Each works independently even though they share the same name.