Is Nightfall really worth the money?

dmapes

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2006

Dark Savents

W/Mo

You guys really think its worth mony.....

Sid Soggybottom

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

Was this thread really necessary? If you like Nightfall then get it. If not, then don't.


*monEy

maedrarle

maedrarle

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Deicidal Tendencies

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I do, 100%

OlMurraniKasale

OlMurraniKasale

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Seattle

Zaishen Order

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Hell yes, I will enjoy it thoroughly.

Miniflea

Miniflea

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Yes. Heros, new professions, mucho new pve content, all worth it.

Franco

Franco

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2006

England

VoB

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Was Guildwars worth your money? Why are you here? Think about that ^^.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

It appears that ArenaNet put a lot more into Nightfall than Factions.

Pliskin MacReady

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

New York City, New York

The Neo Unholy Trio

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If you're interested in the PVE experience, from what the preview event was like I'd venture to say it will be worth it. The PVE experience definately seems like it will be worth the purchase for people who enjoy PVE gameplay. The quests seem plentiful, the heroes are a nice touch, and then there are little things like NPC scouts that give you orders that provide a bonus in expereince and the oppurtunity to earn title points.

On the PVP side of the spectrum, it may be less worth it. Depends on what you think abotu the Paragon and Dervish. Personally, the Paragon is the class that's been waiting for. I always preferred support classes, and I like the idea of toting a ranged spear with a shield and using shouts/chats/echos.

But if neither of those classes appeal to you, you can wait for them to make the Nightfall skills availible for purchase and simply buy that.

TadaceAce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

I'd pay 50$ just for the heroes... another 20 for the HvH pvp... another 20 for the new professions, and another 20 for the pve content. Hell yeah they all come with the heroes!

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

I'm gunna buy it. Its more of a question is if its pocket friendly for your situation, had this been a month ago then chances are I wouldn't have bought it. But now I'm making a bit more money than then.

just rude

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by maedrarle
I do, 100%
QFT

No offense factions was crap.

Nightfalls looks to be on the level with prophecies, no bs, BUY IT.

Jas D

Jas D

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oklahoma, USA

None

Even if you're not interested in PvE, it's nice to have the chapter for the elite skills, weapons, and whatnot. They won't make a game that's totally based on PvE. And, however, they do have a new PvP feature with heroes.. which I'm not too familiar with..

People have different opinions, you have to decide if it's worth your money or not.. people can't do that for you.

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
It appears that ArenaNet put a lot more into Nightfall than Factions.

Nope, just more PvE focused.

As for response to OP, why do you bother asking on a Guild Wars forum... you're bound to get a positive response...

Anyway, I think you should get it because there are some neat features that you will probably want to try. If you don't get it right when it comes out, at least get it a month or few down the road.

TadaceAce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Yeah your right, factions was more pvp focused and their alliance battle system was an absolute flop. This would be why everybody was very disappointed with factions.

Lord Oranos

Lord Oranos

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fort Aspenwood

Quote:
Originally Posted by TadaceAce
Yeah your right, factions was more pvp focused and their alliance battle system was an absolute flop. This would be why everybody was very disappointed with factions.
I dont consider it a flop when people still play there really.

Jeff Highwind

Jeff Highwind

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Grenth's Rejects [GR]

R/Mo

$60's gonna net me 2 minipets (Varesh and Grey Giant) and some sick dances for my guys, along with some other interesting swag.

I was sold at the Varesh Mini.

xXa1

xXa1

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

my best advise is not to buy nightfall immediately but wait a week or 2, check the threads and peoples reactions, then decide. that is what i intend to do myself after the debacle that was factions.

but then again i might just grab it immediately from the online store i really can't say ...

Jeff Highwind

Jeff Highwind

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Grenth's Rejects [GR]

R/Mo

I wanna buy it immediatly so I can blitz the story, get to the Elite mission, and head back to Droks to spam "WTS (Insert Elonian elite green here), 100k+100e!!1"

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

I certainly hope it will top Factions, which already trumped Prophecies.

Opeth11

Opeth11

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Richmond, British Columbia, Kanada

Demon of the Fall [Opet]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakumei
I certainly hope it will top Factions, which already trumped Prophecies.
Psh, you only think that way because there was an NPC with the name "Kakumei".

Rathcail

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

Liked Prophecies. Loved Factions. Nightfall CE will be delivered to my doorstep whenever it's out.

Vermilion Okeanos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

I have to say, when I witness nightfall, it felt like I got ripped off buying faction.

lord_shar

lord_shar

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

near SF, CA

The Nightfall preview event was very good. 2 CE copies on order...

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vermilion Okeanos
I have to say, when I witness nightfall, it felt like I got ripped off buying faction.
Sadly...I'm quoting this because I feel the same way...though I felt the same way with Prophecies after Factions. When each games adds so much more than the last you kind of feel...ripped off buying the first one...

Raziel665

Raziel665

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

N/Mo

Nightfall is looking to be better then Factions, and I thought Factions was worth the money.

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

^ lol actually I haven't... I've played so much of both that I think I've more than got my money's worth - and I only play casually. Ok, maybe not that time over my annual leave back in March, but you get the idea...

As for whether NF is worth it, we can't truly answer that yet... I think the overwhelming feeling of this thread is that it WILL be worth it

Darakus

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Blitzers Guild

Loved Prophecies, didn't like Factions too much, loved what I saw of Nightfall up to now so yes I will buy it.

PanGammon

PanGammon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Underworld

Leader of Grenth Gaming Inc [GG]

Mo/Me

Hell yeah! The heroes are going to be awesome. Also new skills like Destructive Chop and Light of Deliverance are going to be fun!

P.S. The same cannot be said about male paragons...............

Angel Netherborn

Angel Netherborn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Lower Ward, Sigil

Goda Vos

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vilaptca
Sadly...I'm quoting this because I feel the same way...though I felt the same way with Prophecies after Factions. When each games adds so much more than the last you kind of feel...ripped off buying the first one...
That just sounds like you're complaining that the game is getting better. Would you rather each chapter be just equal to the previous chapter so you don't feel ripped off?

Does that mean I should feel ripped off because the computer I bought a year ago is so much better than the one I bought three years ago?

Tijger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by dmapes
You guys really think its worth mony.....
I cant look into your wallet or decide for you what the value is of Nightfall but speaking for myself, yes, and me and my wife have pre-ordered Nightfall.

A new campaign, new skills, new classes and a brand new way (Heroes) to replay the 'old' campaigns is definitely worth it for me.

I'm sure there will be little bits that I will consider icing on the cake like the unique factions storage upgrade which I think is downright awesome, if NF does bring salvageable inscriptions for instance I'd consider that on par with the Materials storage option and I honestly hope it will be a unique NF extra.

CyberMesh0

CyberMesh0

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Charter Vanguard [CV]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Opeth11
Psh, you only think that way because there was an NPC with the name "Kakumei".
Heh... factions was hardly "revolutionary".

gr3g

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

It will probably be worth (my) money, but it's too early to tell. Factions was a disappointment to me and I don't want to have learned no lesson from that. So I'll wait until the reviews are in before buying Nightfall. I don't obsess over the things that many forumites do, such as salvaging or drop rates or whatever, but from what I've seen and read there will be no serious improvement to PvP in Nightfall. Hero vs. Hero doesn't excite me at all. So I will have to consider carefully whether I want to spend $50 on a PvE game which I expect will pale in comparison to Neverwinter Nights 2. So there's plenty of reason to be cautious.

I am also not going to trust anything I read on forums such as this one. Over the past year I have become severely disillusioned about the opinions of forum posters. Half the posts are inexplicably negative, and the other half are equally bizarrely sycophantic.

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by TadaceAce
Yeah your right, factions was more pvp focused and their alliance battle system was an absolute flop. This would be why everybody was very disappointed with factions.
If everyone was dissapointed with Factions, they wouldn't still be in Cantha. And if the Alliance Battles were a flop, they wouldn't be as active as they are.

Omega X

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by gr3g
It will probably be worth (my) money, but it's too early to tell. Factions was a disappointment to me and I don't want to have learned no lesson from that. So I'll wait until the reviews are in before buying Nightfall. I don't obsess over the things that many forumites do, such as salvaging or drop rates or whatever, but from what I've seen and read there will be no serious improvement to PvP in Nightfall. Hero vs. Hero doesn't excite me at all. So I will have to consider carefully whether I want to spend $50 on a PvE game which I expect will pale in comparison to Neverwinter Nights 2. So there's plenty of reason to be cautious.

I am also not going to trust anything I read on forums such as this one. Over the past year I have become severely disillusioned about the opinions of forum posters. Half the posts are inexplicably negative, and the other half are equally bizarrely sycophantic.
Then what was the point of posting that? You obviously think highly of NWN2, so Nightfall shouldn't even be on your list.

I say, don't think about it and go with your instinct. Don't Buy it. Meanwhile, others will be enjoying another creative chapter.

Pliskin MacReady

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

New York City, New York

The Neo Unholy Trio

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Quote:
Originally Posted by -Loki-
If everyone was dissapointed with Factions, they wouldn't still be in Cantha. And if the Alliance Battles were a flop, they wouldn't be as active as they are.
That's not necessarily true, people might play in Cantha because:

1) The Canthan quests are worth a great deal of experience more than the quests in Prophecies, and thus its easier to earn skill points by playing in Cantha.

2) The Canthan elites.

3) Missions are faster and shorter, and getting a master reward nets you threee skill points, a bunch of experience, and some gold. In Prophecies, the missions tend to be longer, eszpecially certain bonuses, and the final reward is only about 2000 experience.

4) The titles in Cantha are easier to earn than the are in Tyria; there's only 13 missions as opposed to 25 and a lot less land to cover.

5) Access to more varied weapon types (Energy +5 melee weapons for example), different skins, and the Elite missions.

There's more you can consider as well, such as chest running, which seems more prevalent in Cantha because of the Imperial Palace and how relatively small in size it is compared to other high end areas in Prophecies.

As for the Alliance Battles, if we are are referring to Fort Aspenwood and The Jade Mines, and not the Terriotry Battles, then I'd say its been a bit of a flop. I've played the Jade Mines maybe twice since the game was first released. A shame, because I do enjoy the map. Yet there's no incentive for Luxons to play there when they can often get easier faction points at Fort Aspenwood. even when I go to the Luxon side and wait there, there's all of three other people there at any one time, and I often end up back at Fort Aspenwood. Playing the same alliance battle over and over again for faction gets boring after a while. If the Jade Mines had a higher Luxon presence, then the alliance battles wouldn't be so bad. but waiting in the Jade Mines could take a couple of hours before you can play one game. And for a casual player like me, I'm usually out of luck.

Zakarr

Zakarr

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Finland

Just returned from time traveling and I have to say that Nightfall's mainland has everything wrong. It is worser than Factions!!!

I also finished remote brain scanning and executed my memory images simulation with dmapes preference parameters which clearly showed that dmapes shouldn't buy this game because the simulation had so many negative reactions when Nightfall memory images were running.

Rathcail

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pliskin MacReady
4) The titles in Cantha are easier to earn than the are in Tyria; there's only 13 missions as opposed to 25
I henched all the bonuses in Tyria. Couldn't see myself pulling that off with masters in Cantha.

For me it's clear which protector title is easier to earn.

Pliskin MacReady

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

New York City, New York

The Neo Unholy Trio

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How'd you pull off Dunes of Despair and the Aruora Glade bonuses?

Or Glint at Dragon's Lair?

Or preserving the gaurdians while activating the druids in Bloodstone Fen?

Or the Iron Mines, where the regular henchies aren't infused like the elite henchies (Devona, Aidan, etc.)?

'Cause those are the only missions I'm missing, and its been a while, but last I tired them they didn't go so well with the henchies. But if you know how to complete them with henchies, I'd appreciate the strategy because I want to go back to it eventually.

Irregardless though, I still think Cantha is faster to complete than Tyria. Tyria is time consuming even with henchies (especially with all henchies). And again, the Master rewards for Canthan missions provide better rewards than the bonus completion in Tyrian missions.

Kais Unduli

Kais Unduli

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Room V

You can't judge a game until it's been released. The preview might help you decide whether to buy the game or not, but you won't know it's worth until you actually install and play it.

From what we've seen so far, the developers really seem to have put a lot of time and effort into Nightfall, so I think in the end, it will indeed be worth the price of admission.

gr3g

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omega X
Then what was the point of posting that? You obviously think highly of NWN2, so Nightfall shouldn't even be on your list.
You've misread or misunderstood my post. Be assured that I'm getting NWN2 whatever the case. The question is whether Nightfall will do anything exciting with PvP, which is my main interest in GW. Signs point to no.