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luxor9

luxor9

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Join Date: May 2006

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13 Oct 2006 at 13:17 - 41
Quote:
Originally Posted by cynnn
Please dont make comments like that, you put other guildwars player under a bad light.

And in response to someone earlier who said he/she has spent alot of money on guildwars and no monthly fees ur ass, please.. Take a look at another angle. Yes, players still gotta fork out considerable amounts of money to enjoy guildwars and its expansion. But, its totally optional. If you dont wish to follow the expansion, don't, your account will not be closed or unable to access. You are able to continue playing. Yes, the amounts of money u pay for the original gw and its expansions almost amounts to a monthly fees for games like WOW. But, in WOW, whatever method you used to pay to play, you have to play to get your money's worth, unless u're rich and don't mind paying for nothing. In guildwars, u pay upfront for the game, and play forever until guildwars is down in the distant future. Whether you wana login for 3mins and log off for the rest of the month, you won't be bothered about spending for nothing. This is freedom.. or should i say, less restriction since freedom is a very difficult to define word because it means almost differently to different people. Anyway, other elements found in guildwars also promotes freedom.
I think your in denial. Your main argument is that it's an optional choice to continue buying expansions. If you like guildwars and are playing it now chances are your gonna buy the new expansions when they come out or when you can afford them. In that case your paying more per month than any online game out right now and I can't say guildwars is the best game out there.

They like to make you think you have a choice and don't have to buy the expansions but your at a serious disadvantage to the people that do. It's very expensive to stay competetive in guildwars let's just leave it at that. Yes they give you a choice, high monthly fee=competetive player vs low monthly fee=casual pve player. Atleast they give a choice I guess but the latter is not exceptable for most players and there you have it a high monthly fee to play guildwars competetively.

Coridan

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

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13 Oct 2006 at 13:57 - 42
If u bought GW prophecies ....pm me in game if u need help. IGN Coridan A

You can do this by hitting N on the keyboard and putting a persons name int the box. Also if u have prophecies. I would recommend staying in Pre searing until you are at least lvl 5-8 as it will help u play a little more effectively once u leave the starter area. Try all of the different secondary professions before you decide upon one. Hrm Not too sure about factions as I skipped that chapter. I have been playing pretty much non stop for the past 5 months and still feel that i have alot to accomplish in GWP. Although I am ready for a new chapter for "something new". Good luck and have fun. Also try several different guilds...people will invite u alot to guilds... until u find the one u want.

A. Noid

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

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13 Oct 2006 at 14:32 - 43
luxor9:
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Atleast they give a choice I guess but the latter is not exceptable for most players and there you have it a high monthly fee to play guildwars competetively.
Most players? Please define 'most players'
I would bet a good many customers prefer PvE. I know I do. Free is free. I don't have a bill every month. I can pick this game up or put it down at my liesure(sp?) and not have to worry about wasted money.
You also can shop around for the best price. I paid $0 for Factions by simply signing up for a credit card on Amazon. (There was a $40 off your first purchase promo at the time)
Factions sold for $30 something not to long ago at Circuit City.
I guess what I'm saying is, there are options with GW.

-A

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

13 Oct 2006 at 14:36 - 44
Quote:
Originally Posted by luxor9
I think your in denial. Your main argument is that it's an optional choice to continue buying expansions. If you like guildwars and are playing it now chances are your gonna buy the new expansions when they come out or when you can afford them. In that case your paying more per month than any online game out right now and I can't say guildwars is the best game out there.

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MATH 101

CHAPTERS 1/2/3 (INCLUDES NIGHTFALL) 18 MONTHS 150 DOLLARS US

18 MONTHS WOW @ 15 DOLLARS PER MONTH NOT INCLUDING THEIR BURNING CRUSADE IS 18X15=270

NOW THE HARD PART

270-150=120 DOLLARS LESS

JUST A BIT MORE THAN HALF THE COST OF WOW.

A. Noid

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

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13 Oct 2006 at 14:53 - 45
Just one more thought,
With Guild Wars, I get what I pay for plus free time to play it.
With WoW, I pay for time and get updates for free.
With WoW, updates are implied with no time line guarantee. Yo uwill get what you get when they are ready to give it to you. In the mean time, you are paying for time.
With GW, time is free. Updates are paid for. It's a really nice incentive to get good, quality updates out to the customers. Kind of like a commission.

For me, I'll take GW.

-A

Titan Chrae

Titan Chrae

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Frozen Lake

Illustrious Chromatic Enigmas (ICE)

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13 Oct 2006 at 15:11 - 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
MATH 101

CHAPTERS 1/2/3 (INCLUDES NIGHTFALL) 18 MONTHS 150 DOLLARS US

18 MONTHS WOW @ 15 DOLLARS PER MONTH NOT INCLUDING THEIR BURNING CRUSADE IS 18X15=270

NOW THE HARD PART

270-150=120 DOLLARS LESS

JUST A BIT MORE THAN HALF THE COST OF WOW.
I've been playing GW for alrady for 18 months and Nightfall would extend value another 6 months so the calculation would be:

CHAPTERS 1/2/3 (INCLUDES NIGHTFALL) 24 MONTHS 150 DOLLARS US

24 MONTHS WOW @ 15 DOLLARS PER MONTH NOT INCLUDING THEIR BURNING CRUSADE IS 24X15=360

NOW THE HARD PART

360-150 = 210 DOLLARS LESS

It is even a better deal than you suggested. I agree with the premise though. GW is definately a better value than WoW.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

13 Oct 2006 at 15:28 - 47
Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan Chrae

It is even a better deal than you suggested. I agree with the premise though. GW is definately a better value than WoW.
VERY TRUE

i was giving the most conservative example so as to leave no room for quibbles on it.

donjn

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

13 Oct 2006 at 18:00 - 48
Well I think I figured out the problem. As soon as I step through a portal I am lonely. It then feels like a single player RPG. And with Gothic III and Neverwinter Nights 2 coming out soon I ask myself whats the point?

The Pointless

The Pointless

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13 Oct 2006 at 18:30 - 49
Keep at it until you're out of Pre. The quests will eventually get hard and more people will be willing to help. Hopefully. Or you can join a helpful guild.

johan the destroyer

johan the destroyer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

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13 Oct 2006 at 19:00 - 50
Well, you get up to 8 people in a team as you go later on in-game. And, when you're solo, you always have an alliance to talk to, which can have up to 1,000 people in it, so, after a little bit, you should have no problem with the loneliness. If you need any help or have another question, just message me in-game. My name is Johan The Destroyer

luxor9

luxor9

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

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14 Oct 2006 at 00:56 - 51
nice math fellas!! that proves that only by being here from the beginning of guildwars can you possibly be spending less money than playing another game.

My point wasn't to start an argument just to say that the statement "free monthly" is very misleading when getting into this game. argue it to death I don't care.

cynnn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

14 Oct 2006 at 05:29 - 52
Yes, in order for u to stay competitive and keep up with the group of players moving on, you gotta fork out cash to buy the new expansions/standalone gw. But.. look, you're not forced to do so. Anet doesnt slam a rule on your account saying, if u dont renew ur subscription for guildwars, your account will be denied access until u decide to pay up again.

Unless you are on more than 1 account, den i can safely say you're paying alot lesser than a WOW player who has the same number of account and number of months played. Although value for money is an important factor, the gameplay is still the deciding factor, value or not for money, is just a supporting factor for me.

And lastly, no, we're not arguing at all. At least i dont feel i am. I'm just trying to bring out some facts. Glad to see people who actually back them up together. Some people have a wrong impression guildwars costs alot more or around the same, but they dont know the advantages behind ANET's different business model

ss1986v2

ss1986v2

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

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14 Oct 2006 at 05:41 - 53
Quote:
Originally Posted by luxor9
nice math fellas!! that proves that only by being here from the beginning of guildwars can you possibly be spending less money than playing another game.
...back to school we go!

MATH 102

Buy Nightfall. Play for 6 months. $50.
World of Warcraft. Play for 6 months. $15 per month. $90.

$90 - $50 = $40 less than WoW.

Math is your friend!

Sasuke The Betrayer

Sasuke The Betrayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Los Angeles

Pink Pearl

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14 Oct 2006 at 05:45 - 54
Quote:
Originally Posted by ss1986v2
...back to school we go!

MATH 102

Buy Nightfall. Play for 6 months. $50.
World of Warcraft. Play for 6 months. $15 per month. $90.

$90 - $50 = $40 less than WoW.

Math is your friend!
Also, many people believe Guild Wars makes expansions as another form of P2P. That's totally incorrect. Not only do we get tons of new features we want, you DONT HAVE TO BUY IT!

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

14 Oct 2006 at 05:58 - 55
Quote:
Originally Posted by donjn
Well I think I figured out the problem. As soon as I step through a portal I am lonely. It then feels like a single player RPG. And with Gothic III and Neverwinter Nights 2 coming out soon I ask myself whats the point?
Assuming you've got Prophecies, One you go to the Acadamy, you'll be able to party up with 4 people afterwards - and later it goes up to 6 then 8. Polish up you're social skills and group up with people and skip the henchies for missions. (it's not as easy to get a group together for quests, for some reason, but you can try) One thing I've found is that as the missions get more challenging, the teamwork comes together better and when the group is a good one, it becomes a lot of fun!

Find a good guild (be sure to get aquainted with both the leader and several players before joining, tho - saves on heartburn), that does the things that you're wanting to do. It wouldn't be much fun joining a PvE based guild if you want to do the PvP thing.

If you want some help in-game, look me up, I'll go around killin' stuff with ya! I've got a character in the beginning area of Ascalon. Just add Dora Explora to your friends list and give me a shout.

luxor9

luxor9

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Join Date: May 2006

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14 Oct 2006 at 14:28 - 56
Quote:
Originally Posted by ss1986v2
...back to school we go!

MATH 102

Buy Nightfall. Play for 6 months. $50.
World of Warcraft. Play for 6 months. $15 per month. $90.

$90 - $50 = $40 less than WoW.

Math is your friend!
you really are ignorant aren't you.

add in the rest of the gw trilogy to be fair. $150 assuming the store doesn't ask you for tax.. why do I have to keep doing this shit, I've made my point and I'll say it one last time

TO STAY COMPETETIVE in guildwars, you will end up spending more money than playing any other top notch mmorpg out there.

Of course you have a choice to not buy the expansions..holy hell I know that.



"Nightfall is a stand-alone product. Those who own Prophecies and/or Factions are not required to purchase Nightfall in order to continue playing on their game account, and those who purchase Nightfall may play it without purchasing Prophecies and/or Factions. However, there is a high level of interconnection between the three games that makes having all of them an exceptional experience."



I'm talkin about those that DO!!! hence the TO STAY COMPETETIVE line. Thick heads man you guys paint your skulls twice a day or what?

actionjack

actionjack

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kali

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14 Oct 2006 at 19:09 - 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by ss1986v2
...back to school we go!

MATH 102

Buy Nightfall. Play for 6 months. $50.
World of Warcraft. Play for 6 months. $15 per month. $90.

$90 - $50 = $40 less than WoW.

Math is your friend!
You guys are poor at math...

Buy Nightfall. As there are no montly fee, you can play as long as you like (or take as much break in between as you like) Since people are still playing Prophcy today, might say it last 15month.

Nightfall. Play for 1 to 100 months. $50
WoW. Play for 15 month. $225 (excluding the expansion and box cost)

ss1986v2

ss1986v2

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/

14 Oct 2006 at 19:37 - 58
Quote:
Originally Posted by luxor9
you really are ignorant aren't you.

add in the rest of the gw trilogy to be fair. $150 assuming the store doesn't ask you for tax.. why do I have to keep doing this shit, I've made my point and I'll say it one last time

TO STAY COMPETETIVE in guildwars, you will end up spending more money than playing any other top notch mmorpg out there.

Of course you have a choice to not buy the expansions..holy hell I know that.
maybe i am ignorant, but i dont see why i have to buy the new chapters to stay competetive in gw?

if you are talking pve, doesnt matter what new skills get released or what new weapons are available, you can still farm and play the missions in prophs or factions without ever playing the other chapters. hell, you could to teach a monkey to play pve!

if you mean pvp, then yes, you will miss out on some new skills that may be of some use. but that doesnt mean you cant be competetive. my e surge mesmer is still very viable, as is my shock axe, my WoH or Boon Monk, or my prodigy blind-bot/hp spam. all of which can run without any factions or future skills.

so once again, you dont have to buy the future chapters to be competetive, but i will concede that it wouldnt hurt. again, it all boils down to if you feel its worth it or not. and if the person isnt into the pvp scene, then there is no downside to not buying the new chapters. many guild wars players never play any pvp, out side of randem/team, and we all know that doesnt count.

kwaqualienz

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2006

14 Oct 2006 at 20:04 - 59
This is my first time on a forum and was trying to fiqure out a few things before purchasing GW. I like to play a rogue character with full pvp, pickpocketing and corpse looting. I played a text based game a while back called Duris that had a lot of good aspects of it and recently have been playing Neverwinter Nights which can offer some of those aspects depending on the server.
I find that some games seem to gear more to the warrior and offensive mage classes and dont give too much for a classical rogue to use his skills for. Any opinions? Thanks.

kwaqualienz

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2006

14 Oct 2006 at 20:18 - 60
"It's a mixed bag, really. You can enjoy both freely without either ever interfering with your main playstyle. Such is not the case in WoW. You won't get ganked in Guild Wars, for example as there is no free world roaming PvP. But, you can go to an Alliance Battle or many other PvP options and mess around in there for a little while if you feel the urge, then go right back to stabbing monsters." (Nickhimself wrote this)

A guy wrote this earlier in thread. I actually like that fact that I CAN get ganked because it adds a realism that I enjoy in a game. Danger vs. real people in pvp is cool, and droning on killing mobs like in WOW is gravely dull, in my opinion.

Snipe Dog

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

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14 Oct 2006 at 20:34 - 61
I noticed everybody was saying he should be a warrior elementalist if he wanted to be a "battle mage". Well what about a warrior mesmer or a warrior necromancer or even a derfish when nightfall comes out. Is that a bad choice?

The Pointless

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14 Oct 2006 at 21:29 - 62
I figure battle mages in WoW use similar magic types to the Elementalist profession.
In terms of dmg types, Mesmers are limited to one (Chaos), Necros 2 (Cold and Dark) and the Dervish have their Wind and Earth Prayers.

The Pointless

The Pointless

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14 Oct 2006 at 21:29 - 63
Once again, the evil Double Post gremlin rears its ugly head...

Akoshi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

14 Oct 2006 at 21:49 - 64
I was also wondering about starting with GW, at the moment playing WoW but getting kinda bored, writing here so I would spare everyone for an extra thread. Im kinda getting confused of what everyone is writing so here is my questions:

1. Can you have more than one character on an account?

2. Whats the diffrence between Fractions, Nightfall and Prophecies? Please do write so normal mortals can understand it ^^

3. Can I attack other players/they attack me if I wander into enemy territory?

4. Can you invade "enemy" towns to change the borders between the two groups?

5. How does the "Battegrounds" work?

6. In WoW guilds the people in the guild Raid instances etc. Is there anything special guilds here can do?

luxor9

luxor9

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Join Date: May 2006

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14 Oct 2006 at 22:25 - 65
sry about my poor attitude lately everyone D;



Quote:
Originally Posted by Akoshi
I was also wondering about starting with GW, at the moment playing WoW but getting kinda bored, writing here so I would spare everyone for an extra thread. Im kinda getting confused of what everyone is writing so here is my questions:

1. Can you have more than one character on an account?

2. Whats the diffrence between Fractions, Nightfall and Prophecies? Please do write so normal mortals can understand it ^^

3. Can I attack other players/they attack me if I wander into enemy territory?

4. Can you invade "enemy" towns to change the borders between the two groups?

5. How does the "Battegrounds" work?

6. In WoW guilds the people in the guild Raid instances etc. Is there anything special guilds here can do?
1. Yes you get 4 character slots when you buy prophecies, and 2 additional slots for each expansion you buy. You can also purchase a slot in the online store for $9.99.

2. Good question. Well picture this. Prophecies, Factions, and Nightfall all take place on seperate continents all with completely different landscapes, monsters, and challenges. If you own all the games, you can travel between each continent with all of your characters.

3. When you exit a town, you enter your own private copy of the world so there's no other people unless you form a party with them before you leave. So no pking people and no kill stealing which is nice but takes away some possible fun element of danger. Of course there's map's where you can attack players. There's are many different styles of pvp.

The rest would probably better for someone else to answer I don't really know much about guilds and guild battles.

Snipe Dog

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Guildless as of yet

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14 Oct 2006 at 22:33 - 66
Quote:
Originally Posted by Akoshi
I was also wondering about starting with GW, at the moment playing WoW but getting kinda bored, writing here so I would spare everyone for an extra thread. Im kinda getting confused of what everyone is writing so here is my questions:

1. Can you have more than one character on an account?

2. Whats the diffrence between Fractions, Nightfall and Prophecies? Please do write so normal mortals can understand it ^^

3. Can I attack other players/they attack me if I wander into enemy territory?

4. Can you invade "enemy" towns to change the borders between the two groups?

5. How does the "Battegrounds" work?

6. In WoW guilds the people in the guild Raid instances etc. Is there anything special guilds here can do?
1. Yeah, when you buy a version of the game you get 4 character slots every other little upgrade thing you buy (eg factions)wil give you another 2 character slots and you can buy extra character slots for about £5 in the online store.

2 The different campaign you buy determines the area in which you start in. Prophecies you start in tyria, factions you start in cantha and nightfall you will start in elona (i think). It basicaly determines the game map you start off with. Buying multiple campaigns will let your character travel between these maps.

3 No, the only way to attack other players is in aranged battles and things in the team arena's, random arenas and guild halls and things.

4 In factions sortof yes. Its the more pvp weighted one.

5 Sorry dont quite understand the question.

6 Guilds can invite other guilds to their island for arranged fights to determine their rank on the guild ladder.

PLease excuse my bad spelling, its too late for me to be up...

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

15 Oct 2006 at 00:28 - 67
Quote:
Originally Posted by Akoshi
I was also wondering about starting with GW, at the moment playing WoW but getting kinda bored, writing here so I would spare everyone for an extra thread. Im kinda getting confused of what everyone is writing so here is my questions:

1. Can you have more than one character on an account?
Yes, with your intial game (whichever chapter) will give you 4 character slots. For each chapter you add to your account, you'll get 2 additional slots. When you combine chapters in this way, you can create a character in any of the chapters you have, and you take take them to any of the other continents when you get to the respective port cities.

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2. Whats the diffrence between Fractions, Nightfall and Prophecies? Please do write so normal mortals can understand it ^^
Prophecies and Nightfall are geared more towards the PvE playing style. They both have a longer, more gradual learning curve than factions. factons has a strong PvP flavor to it, even on the PvE side & has isn't "learning friendly"
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3. Can I attack other players/they attack me if I wander into enemy territory?
Nope. When you leave towns in PvE, you're put in an "instance" area - it's your party's own world and there are no other parties there.
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4. Can you invade "enemy" towns to change the borders between the two groups?
The closest thing that comes to this is in factions, where there is a PvP arena for gaining control of an area. The guild with the most faction earned in the alliance (group of up to 10 guilds) with the highest amount of faction (points earned for doing certian PvP battles) gets control of the most important city on their side. The top ten alliances on each side gain control of towns.

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5. How does the "Battegrounds" work?
The main battleground area is accessible through any chapter, and there are 3 main types of play there. The first is 4 vs 4 random arenas, where you enter the battle by yourself and are paired by the game with 3 other people. There is also the 4vs4 Team Arenas, where you pick your teammates. Hero's ascent is where 6-person teams compete with each other. Guild battles are for 8-person guild groups to fight against other 8-person guild groups.

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6. In WoW guilds the people in the guild Raid instances etc. Is there anything special guilds here can do?
No raids in GW, just Guild Battles.

Akoshi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

15 Oct 2006 at 07:50 - 68
Thanks for the answears and such but I have another "Problem". Everyone says Prophecies is the greatest to start with right? But in prophecies you can't be assassin and that was the class I was thiking the most of =P

So then I should but Nightfall instead of prophecies or just do Fractions? Or maybe just take prophecies and lvl another class?

Snipe Dog

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Guildless as of yet

R/E

15 Oct 2006 at 13:00 - 69
Quote:
Originally Posted by Akoshi
Thanks for the answears and such but I have another "Problem". Everyone says Prophecies is the greatest to start with right? But in prophecies you can't be assassin and that was the class I was thiking the most of =P

So then I should but Nightfall instead of prophecies or just do Fractions? Or maybe just take prophecies and lvl another class?
I wouldn't say prophecies was the best to start in, prophecies was the best overall i think but when i started, i felt like i was just plunged in the deep end, atleast with factoins you have Ng to guide you with the start of the game.

The Pointless

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15 Oct 2006 at 13:08 - 70
Actually, more peeps claim Prophecies is the better game. It eases you in (If you remember not to leave the training area until about level 8... Sadly there are still level elitists in GW, but hitting L8 isn't hard.) plus you are rewarded for quests throughout the game with new skills.
Factions only rewards skills until a certain point in the game, then you have to buy them.
Also, the Assassin profession is a bit of a pain in the backside. They die easily in the wrong hands, which make up the majority of players, and those competent enough to play the Assassin are discriminated against for simply being an Assassin.

Snipe Dog

Ascalonian Squire

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15 Oct 2006 at 16:15 - 71
Well put, same goes for mesmers i've noticed.

Akoshi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

15 Oct 2006 at 16:42 - 72
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Pointless
Actually, more peeps claim Prophecies is the better game. It eases you in (If you remember not to leave the training area until about level 8... Sadly there are still level elitists in GW, but hitting L8 isn't hard.) plus you are rewarded for quests throughout the game with new skills.
Factions only rewards skills until a certain point in the game, then you have to buy them.
Also, the Assassin profession is a bit of a pain in the backside. They die easily in the wrong hands, which make up the majority of players, and those competent enough to play the Assassin are discriminated against for simply being an Assassin.
Reminds me of WoW Rogues =P

So I'll better get looking for another class? ^^

Do GW have some sort of "Talents" Such as wow? I'v not quite understood the thing with skills yet.. Are they just like normal spells?

The Pointless

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15 Oct 2006 at 17:21 - 73
You could always start with Warrior...

As for skills, these are just skills you can use in a combat area. These can be Attacks, Spells, Rituals or just plain skills. You are limited to 8 at any one time, but you can switch them with other skills you've learned in any town or outpost.
Some skills tend to work better or only take the desired effect under certain circumstances, for example, the Gash sword Attack will only do extra damage and a Deep Wound if the target is Bleeding, otherwise only the Base damage dealt by the weapon is inflicted.

Hope this gives you a better idea

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

15 Oct 2006 at 17:24 - 74
Quote:
Originally Posted by Akoshi
Reminds me of WoW Rogues =P

So I'll better get looking for another class? ^^

Do GW have some sort of "Talents" Such as wow? I'v not quite understood the thing with skills yet.. Are they just like normal spells?
Personally I'm a big fan of the Assassin profession, and have been since the first days of Factions. However, it takes some thought to play one correctly. They are powerful when played right, but useless when controlled by someone who doesn't appreciate the finer arts of combat.

Guild Wars doesn't have any talents like World of Warcraft does. We get a boatload of Skills, Spells, and Signets, and that's it. With any eight of those at a time, we carve our destiny. We can't craft items (but NPC Crafters can, when we give them the materials and gold) and we can't ride mighty mounts (but who needs those, we have instant map travel!). World of Warcraft and Guild Wars are fundamentally different, so if you start playing Guild Wars, please remember that it's a whole new world. Forget what you have learned, and experience the joys of being a newbie.

Akoshi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

15 Oct 2006 at 17:38 - 75
Wich one would you suggest to start with? Prophecies, Fraction or wiat for Nightfall? =P

The Pointless

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15 Oct 2006 at 17:42 - 76
Quote:
Originally Posted by Akoshi
Wich one would you suggest to start with? Prophecies, Fraction or wiat for Nightfall? =P
It's F a c t i o n s. (Sorry to sound patronising, but...)

I would go for Prophecies. Nightfall is apparently intended to tie up some loose ends left by the first two, so you may as well, find out the prior story.

Akoshi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

15 Oct 2006 at 17:52 - 77
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Originally Posted by The Pointless
It's F a c t i o n s. (Sorry to sound patronising, but...)
I'v been wondering for that a while ^^ If it was Fractions or Factions =P anyway, When I look on the skills for each class it says it costs "Energy" and "Adrenaline", however if I look on screenshots I can only see two bars, assuming blue is energy and red is health, where is Adrenaline? =P

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

15 Oct 2006 at 18:07 - 78
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Originally Posted by Akoshi
I'v been wondering for that a while ^^ If it was Fractions or Factions =P anyway, When I look on the skills for each class it says it costs "Energy" and "Adrenaline", however if I look on screenshots I can only see two bars, assuming blue is energy and red is health, where is Adrenaline? =P
Ah, that's an excellent question! You see, Adrenaline doesn't have its own bar. Each adrenaline skill starts out a certain faded shade, and as you gain adrenaline, it is filled with an interesting flaming effect. When the skill is ready to use, you will see the icon in full color.

Many people have requested an adrenaline bar, but because of the way adrenaline works, that's not really possible.

Commander Ryker

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/

15 Oct 2006 at 22:22 - 79
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Originally Posted by Nickhimself
Terrible. It's like WoW, in the sense that a lot of people are jerks for absolutely no reason, call everyone noobs, and constantly demean others for their skill levels. Yes, you will probably meet some decent people in GW, just like in WoW. Unfortunately, for the most part, these people are moms, dads, or anyone over the age of 20. Sorry, but it's true. Anyone disagreeing is lucky to have talked to someone in the game who was under 20 and didn't end up stealing / lying / guild-quitting for no reason other than they wanted to own a town in a bigger alliance / scam / or anything else immature players get themselves into (can anyone say "trying to hit on people over general in Lion's Arch"?)
Why is it unfortunate that the polite people are moms and dads? I will admit that I'm a mom, but I'm also a gamer and I've been a gamer since video games came in to being.

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Originally Posted by bart
there are no mages that can wear heavy armor. if u go casters u will be a squishie. ur AoE spells will make monsters run away thus nobody uses them and those who do get flamed. prepare urself to go warrior as it is the easiest and fun way to go.
Only firestorm makes them run away. As someone else stated Meteor Shower not only hurts them bad, but knocks them down. While they are getting knoced down, you can do other aoe spells to them and they can't run. As far as warrior being more fun, that's a matter of opinion. I have a warrior and I play him the least. I have way more fun with my ranger, necro and ele.


To the OP, I love this game. There's always something to do, be it quests, or doing stuff to complete titles. It's all good. The best thing about GW is that they do stuff for us that is way cool and they really don't have to do. Like on some of the major US holidays, there's always a similar like holiday in game and you get cool free stuff. Last Halloween, we got pumpkin helms. Yes, you had to be on at certain times to get it, but it was available to everyone. On Christmas, we got antlers or Santa hats plus some other cool fun weapons and things. They also decorate some area's for the holiday. Also, they are the only game I've ever seen that listen to the players and try to implement idea's in to the game. ANet is freaking awesome and I will continue to play this game as long as is possible. I'll probably end up dying at my computer, playing Guild Wars, trying to complete a mission or something. lol

sixdartbart

sixdartbart

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Peace Machine GRRR [DiE]

W/N

15 Oct 2006 at 23:02 - 80
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Originally Posted by Commander Ryker
I have a warrior and I play him the least.
Thats because you hit like a girl J/K

It may be true that in GWs - pretty much like anywhere else - there are tons of jerks (I'm sure you figured that out just by some of the people who posted here already)
But if you meet enough people eventually you will meet up with some of the really kick ass people like the one I quoted above