Thoughts on the Future

While reading the Nightfall FAQ I came across two questions of interest.

Does Nightfall introduce any subscription or other fees?
We may have something pop up that *is* subscription/fee based. I know the EULA has the clause to allow them to whatever they want too. But just asking that question makes me wonder.

Is Nightfall an expansion pack or a stand-alone game?
Maybe we will see expansions that are not stand-alone. Could be sold in the store too. There is a fair amount of map area in Cantha and Tyria with no access. If it's a reasonable cost (10-20) and adds something decent then great.


Anyone else find anything interesting or want to add?

Each Iteration Of Guild Wars Is Stand Alone!! We Swear!! I Mean Technically Its Stand Alone So Jsut Call It Stand Alone!! Plx Kthx

There will be no monthly fees for nightfall if that's what you're asking. It's part of the succes story of this game and I don't see Anet change that.

Nightfall is a stand alone game. Technically it's possible to make expansions that are not stand alone. A bit like the concept of Mtg with a basic set and 2-3 expansions a year. Will we see such expansions for sale in GW? I don't know. We got Sorrow's Furnace for free. I think it's more interesting for Anet to release stand alone expansions on the market. Also new players can pick up the game at any time this way just like in Mtg.

The questions are there for people who keep wondering when will GW have monthly fee OR that the new games will become expansions.

As in, you. No offence.

I’ve read more in to your questions my mistake, thus the edit…

Anyways, no Nightfall will be no fee’s. If worse comes to worse later chapters might become pay to play .

It's a FAQ. There's a simple reason why these questions are in there.

GW Official Website FAQ > GWGuru Forums FAQ.

Simple and to the point.


And there ya go!

http://www.guildwars.com/support/faq/nightfall-faq.php

I have no idea how you managed to pull that out of what they actually said. A FAQ is designed to answer questions that keep popping up; not to foreshadow things to come.

Did you just have nothing to post so you pulled this standard BS controversy crap out to try and boost your postcount?

You pulled two questions directly from the FAQ and came onto this forum acting as if they hadn't been answered on the FAQ.

Will there be subscription fees? NO. The FAQ says so, and so does every ounce of common sense in respect to everything ANet has said up until now, and the obvious nature of their business plan.

Is Nightfall an expansion? Again the FAQ answers this question fully. An expansion is a game that requires a another game to play. Nightfall does not require Prophecies or Factions, so it's not an expansion.

I have no idea why you posted and hope this thread gets closed before I finish making this post.

GW is Pay to Play! You are paying 50$ every 6 months, 8.33$ per month. And if you really like this game and wanna be up-to-date, you will be buying it religiously every 6 months

However, unlike WoW (for example), everytime you pay you get a whole new world.

Everytime you pay you get a whole new world??? I don't understand. BTW, they (Blizzard) are selling (or sold, not sure) an expansion for WoW, and is not included in the month fee.

Simple. First time I paid for Guild Wars, I got all of Tyria. Second time, I got all of Cantha. Next time, I'll be getting all of Elona. Three payments, three worlds. Game like WoW you pay monthly just for the status quo. Then, you get the pleasure of paying even more for expansions while maintaining your monthly debit.

Wow, did you guys really misread me. Not questions regarding Nightfall. It was simply thoughts on the future.

As in, reading between the lines of the questions that were asked in the FAQ and the recent EULA change. The main point I was conveying is that ANet seems to be leaning to a point where fees will come in to play (on future expasions or services). And the possibility of non-stand-alone releases. Also how there has been a shift in the information sent out.

^As I stated above; the FAQ is to answer questions; not to foreshadow their future plans. To me they don't seem to be leaning the way your talking about at all.

The FAQ inherently gives information out as to future plans. As do many informational sources. I'm not one that normally reads between the lines, prefer things black and white. The amount of small changes and the information coming out indicates things are happening behind the scenes.

That's why I was wondering if anyone else had picked up on it.

Aside from events for Cantha (which could technically be editing hooks created in to the base programming or adding a simple NPC) have there been any large-scale permanent and free updates? From an economical standpoint it will be better to release fewer freebies, though the social/player aspect may become more alienated.

Hopefully that will not be for quite some time if ever. One way smaller expansions with a cost would offset how P2P games have a constant income. If you like the game a lot, and the price is reasonable, you can get more of it. Take the example above, what if Sorrow's Furnace had a cost of 50c to $1? This would produce a secondary income source that could also benefit the productions of larger chapters. Not counting things such as T-shirts/hats/etc that the store could also sell. And if you didn't like what you saw, you could pass and just buy the green weapons from other people.

Dear sir, if I cared to raise my count there are far faster and efficient ways to do so. Post count is meaningless to me. If this topic becomes a flame war (like many topics do) then the mods can go ahead and remove it. Know how things can get.

A shift seems to be happening and I hope my observation is incorrect.

Right. And if say you don't like one expansion you are not forced to obtain it just to keep up (not taking in to account PvP related arguements). Or skip a few here and there, buy them later when they are on sale (Or get bonus junk that isn't really needed but is missed out on anyway.). Can be argued that non-stand-alone games will break that model, though they should not be required. It can be a way to get more of something you like.

Well I'm pretty sure that the "subscription fee" and "standalone" comments were in the Factions FAQ too and I wouldn't be surprised if they were in the Prophecies one. They kinda have to include that as those two features are abbarations from the standard paradigm of the online game; if they didn't say that explicitly; it would be assumed that you did have to pay to play and that you did need the past campaigns to play the new ones.

Also it has been stated they will likely never do another sf style update; the only reason they did that was because Factions took longer than anticipated to release.

Ive known people that did not buy Factions and are still playing Guildwars

what about those people?


regarding EULA changes
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10031348

I would like to see a non-standalone update which would add new an extra content to Prophecies and Factions.

I know, I know, they have already said that they "dont plan to do any more work on previous editions"..

but ya know, ANET change their mind more often more often than your average woman does..

so I still hold out hope