What makes someone pro?

shrouded^god

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Well this morning I was doing an alliance battle with an assassin build of mine, there was this one assassin who kept coming after me...I ended up killing her 7 or 8 times although she was decent and laid quite a lot of damage down quickly. After I whispered her to help, offer my opinion on the way she was working her build...only to get a 'STFU noob, Im a pro LoL' and that was it...

What makes someone think they're pro?

LifeInfusion

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The Conquering Champion title.

EDIT: MAYBE "People Know Me" also...but I doubt it with all the buyable/farmable titles

McMullen

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Some people mistake being a pro with having their head up their arse.

Yanman.be

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People are pro when:

They get paid to play.
They know all skills, costs and progressions by heart.
It takes them no time to analyze other builds, come up with counters.
Know all the game mechanics.
Solo "The Deep"

trankle

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You are a GW professional if you generate enough real-world income by playing GW to pay your bills and feed yourself.

So, many of your eBay resellers could be considered professionals.

When a player refers to himself as a "pro" in-game, he is generally trying to communicate that his ego has ballooned to unhealthy proportions. Your best move is to humor him.

Sol_Vie

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Quote:
Originally Posted by trankle
When a player refers to himself as a "pro" in-game, he is generally trying to communicate that his ego has ballooned to unhealthy proportions. Your best move is to humor him.
QFT.

People who call themselves "pros" are just being stupid. It's like all those players that call other people "noobs". Humoring them is your best option.

Bale_Shadowscar

Bale_Shadowscar

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Join Date: Sep 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanman.be
People are pro when:
They know all skills, costs and progressions by heart.
I think that would be considered "Having waaaay too much time" instead of pro, but I know what your getting at :P

And I think the topic starter was hoping for responses to people being experts at the game, not responses like "Being a Pro means you get paid" (although being a professional at something does mean you get paid for it)

Kook~NBK~

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Natural Born Killaz

People who call themselves "pro" are generally either suffering from delusions of gradeur or have ego problems. The only possible exception are "pro runners." But I don't see many long-time runners in Beacon's Perch calling themselves "pro."

lyra_song

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I think....its hard to be a pro at this game.

At least the PVP side of it.

Yes, you can learn a lot of things, but you'll never be able to know everything, since the skills are changing and tactics change and people always find a new way to play.

The PVE side is fairly easy to become a "pro" in.

Things that DONT make you a pro are:

Rank
Armor
Amount of Money you have
Hours you spent.

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Now dont get me wrong. You can be a "pro" assassin and know everything about assassins and how to beat every class with them.

But thats just 1 class.

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When a person becomes skilled in something, the natural thing that the person does is to teach what they know.

That assassin was being an ASS.

rxtracid

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I don't think GW is something you could consider your self to be a pro at atleast not yet give it some more time.

led-zep

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what makes someone pro?...

if they get paid to play AND make a living from it, not just win a tournament or 2

mrdbeau

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Making any amount of money playing the game qualifies you as Pro, IMO.

But, I'm a bit biased about it, myself.

Syndren

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Hmm I don't think there is an actual 'pro' in Guild Wars. Grinding for titles can also just mean that they know one particular build well enough (so only being a pro in that specific build).


The closest one can be to a 'pro' would be (imho):

-Someone who can accept that they are not a pro and still have alot to learn (humble)

-If a critic or suggestions are given to be quiet, listen, and consider what the other person has to say. Always trying to make thier build/understanding better

-Always finds new and innovative ways to do things in GW (totally new builds, fashions, trends, tactics, etc)

-Does not follow the band wagon

Ganik Thress

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I feel that "pro"-dom is an attitude developed by those that observed the talented players playing, with their quick fingers and fast thinking. It eventually tumbled into an ego-fest, I'm guessing, where everyone strived to become "pro's", and eventually, as they developed the attitude even though they did not have the "pro" skill that people looked up to, got to the point where they loved smelling their own farts.

Lagg

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If you play from work and suck at the game, you are in fact a pro noob.

Solar Light

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i would take two things into account for "pro"

Personal skills and attitude/personality.

Franco

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I agree with the person that said someone that makes a living out of this game is a pro. I mean he must be really good at it if he can do that otherwise everyone would do the same.

Stockholm

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"A professional provides a service in exchange for payment in accordance with established protocols for licensing, ethics, procedures, standards of service and training/certification. A professional is a member of a licensing body which is legally established within the laws of a given state, county, province or nation.

The term "professional" is widely used to refer to individuals with recognized expertise within a field of endeavor even though they are not a member of a licensing body or legal entity. The distinction between professional sports and amateur sports simply refers to how the athlete is funded. Similarly the distinction within creative pursuits between professional and amateur becomes somewhat grey.

Historically, behaving professionally would indicate that the person's actions remain in accordance with specific rules, written or unwritten, pertaining to behavior, dress, speech, etc. By extension, the adjective professional identified somebody recognized for expertise or skill in a craft or activity."

Anyone calling him/her self "pro" in open chat does not qualify in the above quote

Kakumei

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Syndren
-Always finds new and innovative ways to do things in GW (totally new builds, fashions, trends, tactics, etc)

-Does not follow the band wagon
That's a Johnny, not a pro. It's best if you don't get them confused.

Maria The Princess

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someone who thinks hes a pro is someone with "absolutely no life"

reference to south park WOW episode

Kakumei

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learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by Syndren
-Always finds new and innovative ways to do things in GW (totally new builds, fashions, trends, tactics, etc)

-Does not follow the band wagon
That's a Johnny, not a pro. It's best if you don't get them confused.

Quote:
i would take two things into account for "pro"

Personal skills and attitude/personality.
What does personality have to do with being good at what you do?

Syndren

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakumei
That's a Johnny, not a pro. It's best if you don't get them confused.



What does personality have to do with being good at what you do?
:P heh well I said it was the closest to a pro. So maybe a Johnny is being close to a pro? :P

Anyways I think there is a lot of maturity involved in 'being a pro' so I think personality counts.

You don't see <insert professional's name> saying "haha noob I am a pro" :P

Franco

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z0mg u n000bz johnny is pro

Legolas Ravenwood

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Your considered a pro when it's easy.

Syndren

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*shrug*
Ok then? I had no idea what a johnny was so I added a "?"
Does it really deserve that type of comment though?

Kais Unduli

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maria The Princess
someone who thinks hes a pro is someone with "absolutely no life"

reference to south park WOW episode

Winner.

Pro goes along with people who say "owned" all the time. Wow, you killed me once, gg.

TadaceAce

Wilds Pathfinder

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If late in a season you are part of the elite 8 in a top 10 guild I would consider you pro. This means you play a lot but at the same time your pretty damn good at it.

The Omniscient

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Playing with top guilds.

Kha

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Quote:
Originally Posted by shrouded^god
What makes someone think they're pro?
Being dense enough to actually believe there's such a thing.

fenix

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Bah, everyone knows that Soul Wedding is the only pro in the game.

martyr migraine

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I think you are worthy enough to be considered a Pro when you have-
(a) a guild solely devoted to being a fanclub for you with 60+ members in it
(b) when you enter a town saying LFG people go " ZOMFG look its ~~~~~"
(c) when you have a web site solely devoted to answering people's questions about -anything- in the game

Jha Jha

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^ thats before someone made a character called Soul Divorce

but to stay on topic for that person to say he was a pro..its a understatement...as you see even though you was able to kill him 7+ times he still won because he got you thinking of "why would he think hes a pro, ive killed him 8 times and he does not wana listen to my advices" making YOU the pro since your the cool guy who killed him 8 times AND you have the nerve to telling him how he should go about fighting say u and him cross paths again (even though you had no bad intentions)...you understand what im saying?

Zehnchu

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kais Unduli
Winner.

Pro goes along with people who say "owned" all the time. Wow, you killed me once, gg.
And here I thought it was the one’s who couldn’t spell own3d right.

Mr Jazzy

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recognizing other builds in a second.
i think i'm like halfway there to a pro, but i gained most knowledge thru experience.

ex: seeing a mesmer cast signet of weariness, knowning that they are e-surger, seeing an ele use starburst and knowning their whole build.
it's easy to be a pro in this game though, almost all players use variations of the popular builds (domination mesmer, horns spider mesmer, blessed light monk, etc etc

Thallandor

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What makes someone pro?

When someone else tells you that you are.

elektra_lucia

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Leteci is [sexy]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by shrouded^god
Well this morning I was doing an alliance battle with an assassin build of mine, there was this one assassin who kept coming after me...I ended up killing her 7 or 8 times although she was decent and laid quite a lot of damage down quickly. After I whispered her to help, offer my opinion on the way she was working her build...only to get a 'STFU noob, Im a pro LoL' and that was it...

What makes someone think they're pro?
Go to dictionary.com. Then again, was this post more a rant, or actually an honest question? I don't think you can be "pro" in this game. I haven't exactly busted a gut to get sponsored in it BUT I considered myself "pro" in FPS games for the following reasons:

1) My sponsors paid me a regular income
2) Since I won cups and stuff, I'd say I was "highly skilled".

However, as for the last comment... Supposing everyone else on the league was just bad? That wouldn't make me highly skilled, it would just mean I was lucky everyone else was bad... Maybe a childish argument, but maybe not so...

Highly skilled is hard to define; therefore, I think "pro" or, "professional" is best kept to one who recieves pay... I don't mean, guildwars gold either. Hell, all droks runners would be pro then .

So, as for "pro" in this game. I don't really believe in it.

*edit*

Most of the posts are rubbish here... Like "attitude". I mean, seriously? You honestly believe that nonsense? LoL.

From what I've heard, Jennifer Lopez isn't a nice person in real life... For the sake of argument, assume that to be correct, well - she's a professional... Professional can be in all sorts of things; it mostly all has one thing in common, Money.

People who think they're pro have no life? "Nigguh plz" - I had no life BEFORE I ever considered I was "pro" at a computer game.

ShadowStorm

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakumei
That's a Johnny, not a pro. It's best if you don't get them confused.
When you say, "That's a Johnny," are you refering to one of the psycographic archtypes used to describe the 3 most common mindsets of the Magic: The Gathering playerbase? As in, Timmy, Johnny, and Spike? I'm just curious...

JamesDonaldson

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Broadband.

Seriously, even though GW runs brilliant on my 56K and I almost never lag, I seriously can't win in a PvP match. I don't play as much as most people, but when you spend months buying and creating a perfect armor set only to get hammered by a naked monk, I have to say the people with the faster connections have the advantage.

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