Sin and Rit heros will exist?

Solar Light

Solar Light

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Teutonic Warriors {TW}

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I see there being some if only becasue every other class has heros versions now, and these heros, i imagine them aquired by accounts that have factions, probably by quests that only work with factions key.

And please stop the doubt, we had that with the skills and armor issues already, and of course, its for people that have factions.

Chilly Ress

Chilly Ress

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No. And again, no.

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

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Join Date: Aug 2006

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This was already discussed even before the WPE. The PC Gamer article lists all the heroes' names and a description and from that you could speculate their profession. There have also been some articles recently on various websites that may have more info on them; but I haven't gotten around to reading them myself.

Omega X

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Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith
This was already discussed even before the WPE. The PC Gamer article lists all the heroes' names and a description and from that you could speculate their profession. There have also been some articles recently on various websites that may have more info on them; but I haven't gotten around to reading them myself.
Those are known Heroes. They haven't said anything about the Elite Heroes.

Sid Soggybottom

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Join Date: Oct 2006

Change the freaking subject title. It's very misleading. It basically claims that assassin and ritualist heroes WILL be in Nightfall.

Knightsaber Sith

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Actually according to guildwiki (even though any random person could've posted it), there is an assassin hero that was supposedly confirmed in the second Nightfall trailer. Named "Zenmai". Looks like no rit hero though.

Kais Unduli

Kais Unduli

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Room V

That Master of the whispers or whatever his name was stands like an assassin, so he could possibly be an assassin hero. I'm just glad we can get 2 elementalist heroes per character. I can finally get myself some decent nukers.

Zinger314

Zinger314

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Join Date: May 2006

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Master of Whispers sounds like he can be Assassin or Ritualist.

Polgara Darshiva

Polgara Darshiva

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Join Date: Apr 2006

Cape Town, South Africa

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Master of Whispers is a necro. He stands like a Necro not an assassin and he uses Necro skills in the second in game cinematic.


http://guildwars.systemshock.co.za/i...rofwhisper.jpg

llsektorll

llsektorll

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Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Polgara Darshiva
Master of Whispers is a necro. He stands like a Necro not an assassin and he uses Necro skills in the second in game cinematic.


http://guildwars.systemshock.co.za/i...rofwhisper.jpg
is it just me or does the master of whispers skillbar have two elites

Cherrie

Cherrie

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Join Date: Jun 2006

Echowald

Marked by [Fury]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by llsektorll
is it just me or does the master of whispers skillbar have two elites
And he's not N/Me either.
Maybe they can cap? ^^ that would be handy btw, to unlock all elites in area would take one run, not x runs with prof changing involved

GloryFox

GloryFox

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I would like to remind EVERYONE on this Forum that new skills were included for SIN’s and RIT’s with Nightfall. Just because you can't see them yet does not mean they do not exist. I am sure you will be able to get a Ritualist HERO for Nightfall. It might not be the Master of Whispers, but it will be someone or something.

How do I know this you ask?

I don't ... just like I did not know there would be NEW armor, skills, Elites etc for the SIN and RIT’s for Nightfalls release. However I did argue there would be more than anyone else on these forums.

However LOGIC & REASON dictates there would be a HERO of each profession even if it were just one HERO. If anything they would be for GvG PvP not just for PvE. (so think outside of the box for a while)

So everyone just calm down we will know about them soon enough.

Omega X

Omega X

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Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherrie
And he's not N/Me either.
He can have any secondary profession that you own.

Sid Soggybottom

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryFox
I would like to remind EVERYONE on this Forum that new skills were included for SIN’s and RIT’s with Nightfall. Just because you can't see them yet does not mean they do not exist. I am sure you will be able to get a Ritualist HERO for Nightfall. It might not be the Master of Whispers, but it will be someone or something.
But STILL the subject title is misleading. Nothing has been confirmed and the title implies that it has been.

Terra Xin

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Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

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Those two particular professions will be dependant on one variable, that is:

Whether or not you need to own Factions to gain access to them.

Because heroes have PvP unlocked skills, I'll put my money own prior ownership of Factions.

GloryFox

GloryFox

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Quote:
posted by Terra Xin
Those two particular professions will be dependant on one variable, that is:
Whether or not you need to own Factions to gain access to them.
Because heroes have PvP unlocked skills, I'll put my money own prior ownership of Factions.
I agree... this leads me to believe the RIT and SIN HERO"s might only be available for pickup in Cantha.

Kais Unduli

Kais Unduli

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Room V

Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryFox
I agree... this leads me to believe the RIT and SIN HERO"s might only be available for pickup in Cantha.
As much as I would like to see this happen, I'm not so sure it will. I don't think Anet will go back to rewrite the storyline to include new heroes for a game that has pretty much been finalized. Heroes are part of the storyline in Nightfall, and Anet likes to keep everything continuity friendly as much as possible, so I don't think we'll see Heroes coming form Cantha.

Guardian of the Light

Guardian of the Light

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Join Date: Sep 2005

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One of the Nightfall Trailers shows an assassin hero in the party bar at one point.

Zinger314

Zinger314

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Join Date: May 2006

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Point of comment: it's likely that the Assassin and Ritualist heroes are Factions-exclusive. Therefore, there will probably be a quest to get the Heroes in Factions. That also explains why ArenaNet hasn't confirmed it.

Voltar

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you can use rit and sin secondaries. if you consider the number of heroes and the number of characters you have (and the number of accounts if applicable) that's plenty of hero action to deal with.

btw, i'm out of the loop on the "elite heroes". could someone link me something about them?

Knightsaber Sith

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Well here on guildwiki
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Hero
they list 15 heroes while all the magazine articles and everything only talk about 12 so the other three must be "elite".

strcpy

strcpy

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Join Date: Jul 2005

One of Many [ONE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kais Unduli
As much as I would like to see this happen, I'm not so sure it will. I don't think Anet will go back to rewrite the storyline to include new heroes for a game that has pretty much been finalized. Heroes are part of the storyline in Nightfall, and Anet likes to keep everything continuity friendly as much as possible, so I don't think we'll see Heroes coming form Cantha.
There is no need to rewrite the story line to do so. So far Anet has said we can take the heroes into the other campaigns with us so the ability is there (and that required no story line change). We have also seen the addition of a few quests after the release of Factions. There is nothing to preclude adding a quest to Factions that gave us a few heroes. It wouldn't be *nearly* as large a change as Sorrows Furnace was to Prophecies. There is also nothing to say Tyria will not get the same treatment.

Who knows. They may all come from Nightfall or each chapter may have one or more, there is no reason to think they will not be in other places nor is there any reason to think they will. Anet has never seemed adverse to adding some content to chapters after purchase and I can perfectly see the wisdom in having it Nightfall only content. At this point we simply do not know.

Snowman

Snowman

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Join Date: Apr 2005

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Another interesting debate, ANET have never said there WONT be, after all, they must leave something a suprise

However, this is one thing which I dont think they would keep a secret..

There would be no commercial benefit to keeping this a secret, they would advertise it, sing and dance about it, and marvel at their own brilliance!

Imagine the advertisment tag line..

"If you own Factions, you can even recruit special Faction-class heroes which Nightfall owners would NOT want to miss out on!"

This would encourage Factions owners to buy nightfall (if undecided) and New Nightfall owners to buy Factions (to help bolster the population in cantha)

But I see no such song and dance so I really dont expect to see them, but I would very much like to!

unmatchedfury

unmatchedfury

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Join Date: Jul 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith
Actually according to guildwiki (even though any random person could've posted it), there is an assassin hero that was supposedly confirmed in the second Nightfall trailer. Named "Zenmai". Looks like no rit hero though.
ah yes, makes perfect sense actually, having one factions class but not the other...

if they didn't have heros for those with the factions CD-key then hero vs. hero really will be a 3W/Mo 1Mo/x fest.

Think about it. why would they not have factions heros in Nightfall?
they didn't shut factions classes out when it came to skills and armor, and i dought they'll do it to them in the case of heros.

gr3g

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith
Actually according to guildwiki (even though any random person could've posted it), there is an assassin hero that was supposedly confirmed in the second Nightfall trailer. Named "Zenmai".
You can easily verify the information on GuildWiki by, you know, just verifying the source.


(Cropped screenshot from about 98 seconds into the second trailer.)

But no, you'd rather lazily cast aspersions about the work of others.

Knightsaber Sith

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I wasn't casting aspersions; lol. I was just pointing out a piece of relevant info for someone else to follow up on if they wanted to. I didn't look into it myself cause frankly I just couldn't care in the least whether or not there were sin or rit heroes; I was just trying to help out all these other people that do seem to actually care. So you sir need to stop being so rude to people doing others a favor >_<


I simply made that statement to point out that it does need to be verified rather than taking some unknown persons word on blind faith.

gr3g

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Join Date: Jul 2006

Fine, fine.

Anyway, this brings up an unrelated question: how are Jin and Sousuke in the same party? Weren't they supposed to be mutually exclusive?!

GedLongbow

GedLongbow

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Join Date: Oct 2006

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R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kais Unduli
That Master of the whispers or whatever his name was stands like an assassin, so he could possibly be an assassin hero. I'm just glad we can get 2 elementalist heroes per character. I can finally get myself some decent nukers.
If you've seen the NF trailers, Master of Whispers guy is a necro.

Knightsaber Sith

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Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by gr3g
Fine, fine.

Anyway, this brings up an unrelated question: how are Jin and Sousuke in the same party? Weren't they supposed to be mutually exclusive?!
When they made the trailer; the account they were recording probablly had access to all the heroes or something. Just like Gaile's super power to type in purple.

noocoo

noocoo

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Join Date: Jan 2006

Anet mensioned that a sin from Canthen to Elona want to investigate the source of plauge in the NF gameguide, so I would guess this is sin hero, Zenmai.

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

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Nightfall gameguide? Do you mean the strategy guide that no one can get their hands on and that Prima claims they decided to cancel O.O

noocoo

noocoo

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Join Date: Jan 2006

I mean.....the one in the formal NF game box, in taiwan, my friends already got the NF game box tw version(Im not sure its collector edition or not), the guide in the box shows the NF story and the whole NF map.
The interesting thing is the NF map is in south of crystal desert in tyria, and they are in connection.


Also, I think they didnt decide to cancel anything.

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

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Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

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Quote:
Also, I think they didnt decide to cancel anything.
From the official Prima games forums:
http://forums.primagames.com/showthread.php?t=62

Either the Nightfall guide was canceled; or their mods are huge asses that need to be fired for screwing with people like that >_<