How valuable is the party window?
Darcy
In another thread, an off-topic discussion kept reviving on the value of the party window. So let's hear it from all of you.
1. Do you shut it down?
2. What build are you running if you shut it down?
3. Why do you shut it down?
4. If you never shut it down, why? Other than for healers, tell us why you find it valuable.
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For example, when I run my R/Me I shut down the party window to increase my field of view. I use the radar to watch the back door and cannot heal anyone, so for this character the party window is more of a nuisance than a help.
On the other hand, if I am the party leader, prof makes no difference, I ALWAYS have the party window open.
1. Do you shut it down?
2. What build are you running if you shut it down?
3. Why do you shut it down?
4. If you never shut it down, why? Other than for healers, tell us why you find it valuable.
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For example, when I run my R/Me I shut down the party window to increase my field of view. I use the radar to watch the back door and cannot heal anyone, so for this character the party window is more of a nuisance than a help.
On the other hand, if I am the party leader, prof makes no difference, I ALWAYS have the party window open.
The Pointless
1) Nope, meaning I can skip straight to...
4) If a party's healer dies, it's imperative that we can see that as soon as, so that somebody with a Res (Which, personally, should be all members, Sig or Spell) can get her back and keep up going.
4) If a party's healer dies, it's imperative that we can see that as soon as, so that somebody with a Res (Which, personally, should be all members, Sig or Spell) can get her back and keep up going.
Gun Pierson
Other than the obvious reason The Pointless above gives, it's important to know the whole party situation from a strategic point of view. You can always resize the window as small as possible and put it somewhere it bothers you the least.
Trvth Jvstice
1. no
2. n/a
3. n/a
4. The party window lets you know whats going on in a battle. If you are concentrating on an enemy, your whole team could be dying around you without you knowing it without the party window. It let's you know when it's time to run or rez.
On a scale of one to ten, one=worthless and 10=absolutely vital. I'd rate it a 9
2. n/a
3. n/a
4. The party window lets you know whats going on in a battle. If you are concentrating on an enemy, your whole team could be dying around you without you knowing it without the party window. It let's you know when it's time to run or rez.
On a scale of one to ten, one=worthless and 10=absolutely vital. I'd rate it a 9
Hephaestus Ram
I never shut it down, I want to know the status of the other team
members, as it effects what I'm doing. If one member is taking a
of damage and I see for that he's surrounded, if I have a knock-
down ( i usually do ), maybe I can help him break away.
If I see that the whole team is losing health fast I can indicate on
the radar that I intend to break off and fall back, and which way
I'm going to go.
I certainly would want to know if the monk or tank were about to
die.
I rarely even look at the main screen. I usually select my target
by the radar screen and am too occupied with my skill bar, the
party screen, what skills or spells my target is using, and monitoring
what enchantments and hexes are on me to even have time to
bother with the main screen.
members, as it effects what I'm doing. If one member is taking a
of damage and I see for that he's surrounded, if I have a knock-
down ( i usually do ), maybe I can help him break away.
If I see that the whole team is losing health fast I can indicate on
the radar that I intend to break off and fall back, and which way
I'm going to go.
I certainly would want to know if the monk or tank were about to
die.
I rarely even look at the main screen. I usually select my target
by the radar screen and am too occupied with my skill bar, the
party screen, what skills or spells my target is using, and monitoring
what enchantments and hexes are on me to even have time to
bother with the main screen.
Shigernafy
1. I only get rid of it when Im soloing or running, in a party situation its only big enough for me to see my whole first name, and then the rest of the party.
2. Solo/Running build...
3. I shut it down because all the information I could possible get from it I can get more easily from the rest of the screen.
4. In a party situation, I keep it up to see how everyones doing, not that I can usually do much about conditions, hexes, and damage on others, its still good to know whats going on.
2. Solo/Running build...
3. I shut it down because all the information I could possible get from it I can get more easily from the rest of the screen.
4. In a party situation, I keep it up to see how everyones doing, not that I can usually do much about conditions, hexes, and damage on others, its still good to know whats going on.
Zui
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Originally Posted by Darcy
1. Do you shut it down?
2. What build are you running if you shut it down? 3. Why do you shut it down? 4. If you never shut it down, why? Other than for healers, tell us why you find it valuable. |
2) None.
3) I don't.
4) I play Monk, alot. When I'm not playing Monk, it's still very important to be able to target other players. Such as being able to target one of your Warriors who is Blind, or being able to use a Resurrection Signet on a dead teammate. It's also a good idea to have it open so you can judge how much damage your party is taking, and if you need to perhaps work on mitigating the other teams offense a bit more(Although feedback from your Monks here is even better).
Basicly, the party menu is a very good source of information about what is happening in the game as it relates to your team. It'd be like turning the radar off. You'd just loose valuable information, for no good reason at all.
Even turning it off in PvE is stupid. It gives you information on the game, and it doesn't hurt anything at all by having it on.
The only time I can see ever shutting it down is when Monking for a non-serious team so you can improve your battlefield awareness, and stop being a noob monk who watches red bars go down, then back up when you heal the person and is oblivious to everything else that's happening in the game.
fatmouse
I guess the people who close it are the same ones that spam
I'm dead!
I'm dead!
I'm dead!
I'm dead!
As if we didn't already know...
I'm dead!
I'm dead!
I'm dead!
I'm dead!
As if we didn't already know...
Kook~NBK~
1. Yes
2. When I'm running around solo farming.
3. To enjoy the view.
4. I leave it on when in a party so I can easily keep track of how my teammates are doing. Doesn't matter which proffession you're playing, I think it's an important tool for everyone to use to adjust to the situation they're in - is the party in over its head and needs to retreat and regroup? Does the team need a minute to heal up after a tough battle? The party window is a great way to quickly & easily see if there's trouble.
2. When I'm running around solo farming.
3. To enjoy the view.
4. I leave it on when in a party so I can easily keep track of how my teammates are doing. Doesn't matter which proffession you're playing, I think it's an important tool for everyone to use to adjust to the situation they're in - is the party in over its head and needs to retreat and regroup? Does the team need a minute to heal up after a tough battle? The party window is a great way to quickly & easily see if there's trouble.
Smile Like Umean It
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Originally Posted by Trvth Jvstice
1. no
2. n/a 3. n/a 4. The party window lets you know whats going on in a battle. If you are concentrating on an enemy, your whole team could be dying around you without you knowing it without the party window. It let's you know when it's time to run or rez. On a scale of one to ten, one=worthless and 10=absolutely vital. I'd rate it a 9 |
KamikazeChicken
How am I supposed to heal everyone, if the party window isn't on my screen?
Rera
I assume he's asking those who don't play monk.
The reason you keep the party window open is to get a better idea of the situation. It's immediately obvious when anyone dies, or is about to die. It also gives you an idea of the kind of damage your team is facing, where that damage is going, and how well your team is handling it. This should affect your playing even if you aren't a monk that can directly "do anything about it".
The reason you keep the party window open is to get a better idea of the situation. It's immediately obvious when anyone dies, or is about to die. It also gives you an idea of the kind of damage your team is facing, where that damage is going, and how well your team is handling it. This should affect your playing even if you aren't a monk that can directly "do anything about it".
Tarkin
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Originally Posted by fatmouse
I guess the people who close it are the same ones that spam
I'm dead! I'm dead! I'm dead! I'm dead! As if we didn't already know... |
Why close party window? Only if you is a greedy loser that dont mather with the other party members...
unholy guardian
It is vital to know how people are doing during battle
LifeInfusion
Uh:
-Support builds
-Enchantments
-Condition/hex removal
-MM's that are saccing
-Healing builds not monk
-Support builds
-Enchantments
-Condition/hex removal
-MM's that are saccing
-Healing builds not monk
Crystal Alice
1. i never shut it down when im with a group(at least 3 people), when im alone with my characters it really doesn't matter(it's become a habit so i don't really notice it anymore if the window is up).
2. none
3. i shut the window down only when i have 1 other person with me who i know will not be likely to die or if i have to see something behind the window.
4. well for one thing, i have a healing monk and the other thing is that i would like to see how many people are still alive and if there is anyone who needs to be resurrected. if i ever need to remove an enchantment or use mend condition i can see who needs it.
2. none
3. i shut the window down only when i have 1 other person with me who i know will not be likely to die or if i have to see something behind the window.
4. well for one thing, i have a healing monk and the other thing is that i would like to see how many people are still alive and if there is anyone who needs to be resurrected. if i ever need to remove an enchantment or use mend condition i can see who needs it.
Petrus
i never shut it down.
as everyone staed above is important whatever class you play.
what i do instead, since i play att 1280*1024 i set the interface to small when not monking, and large when im monking...
as everyone staed above is important whatever class you play.
what i do instead, since i play att 1280*1024 i set the interface to small when not monking, and large when im monking...
Thallandor
1. Not when i am playing with others players
2. Running builds, solo
3. no need for it when solo or running self/others to increase view range
4. In a party for quest/mission, its advantageous to know the status of your allies and party mates to either rez/or to make tactical retreats when neccessary.
2. Running builds, solo
3. no need for it when solo or running self/others to increase view range
4. In a party for quest/mission, its advantageous to know the status of your allies and party mates to either rez/or to make tactical retreats when neccessary.
arcanemacabre
Party window only comes off when I solo, that's it.
lightblade
Never closes it. It's important to know how your party is doing. And very often I see warriors hack and slash monsters without realizing his whole party have retreated already.
Spader
mines always.
About half the screen when I play monk or rit right below the compass. On ny other char i normally have it about the with of the compass and as far right as I can. And whin i solo anything it's down to a msaly thing like the size of gum under the compass. As for why i find the thing usful when playing somehting like a War/Necro is if i know the area to some extent i know what the monsters arn't doing to me and is being annoying to the other members. Example: Thurnderhead Keep the first mob is a few frost gaints, a few ax whileding stone summit, a stomper, and a mesmer i think. Knowing what has been cast by the enimy would have me changing what i'd hit next either frenzy or healing sig.
If I see I"M DEAD in chat that will just make me go and dance on the person.
About half the screen when I play monk or rit right below the compass. On ny other char i normally have it about the with of the compass and as far right as I can. And whin i solo anything it's down to a msaly thing like the size of gum under the compass. As for why i find the thing usful when playing somehting like a War/Necro is if i know the area to some extent i know what the monsters arn't doing to me and is being annoying to the other members. Example: Thurnderhead Keep the first mob is a few frost gaints, a few ax whileding stone summit, a stomper, and a mesmer i think. Knowing what has been cast by the enimy would have me changing what i'd hit next either frenzy or healing sig.
If I see I"M DEAD in chat that will just make me go and dance on the person.
saphir
never.
it's rather like removing your rear and side view mirrors while driving a car. You can still drive but it's probably not a good idea.
it's rather like removing your rear and side view mirrors while driving a car. You can still drive but it's probably not a good idea.
Carth`
I can't believe you can play with other people without it. Providing you're not soloing, this is a team game, not an "8 people soloing together" game. I find it invaluable to know my party's status even when not playing the monk.
I simply can't believe this thread, but I think I now understand some of the people who seem to have no idea what's going on when playing. It's like they have the party window turned off, team chat turned off, and don't look at what anyone else is doing.
I simply can't believe this thread, but I think I now understand some of the people who seem to have no idea what's going on when playing. It's like they have the party window turned off, team chat turned off, and don't look at what anyone else is doing.
WLlama
It stays open all the time. Even when I'm soloing I somtimes find it easier to look at than the skillbar health meter. I suppose I could swap things around but every time I do that I go do something that works much better with motor memory and switch it back.
arcanemacabre
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Originally Posted by Carth`
I simply can't believe this thread, but I think I now understand some of the people who seem to have no idea what's going on when playing. It's like they have the party window turned off, team chat turned off, and don't look at what anyone else is doing.
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Wacky
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Originally Posted by Carth`
I simply can't believe this thread, but I think I now understand some of the people who seem to have no idea what's going on when playing. It's like they have the party window turned off, team chat turned off, and don't look at what anyone else is doing.
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However, it's easy to forget to look at the party window even though it's there, if you're playing a warrior or dervish.
So sometimes it's good to ping "I'm Dead!" to make sure they know. Because they often don't.
Maria The Princess
i shut it down when i solo...... thats it
fenix
In PvP I never turn off the Party Window, it's just silly if you do. You need to have it open at ALL TIMES, because if it's not there, you can miss alot of what is going on, such as monk pressure, degen etc etc. It's pretty difficult to see how much pressure your team is under, if you can't see their HP
BlueNovember
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Originally Posted by KamikazeChicken
How am I supposed to heal everyone, if the party window isn't on my screen?
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Learning to monk without the party window is the difference between being a good monk and a great monk. You should place prots before some takes hits, look where target auras are facing, and be constantly mindful of the battlefield.
Healing by using soley the party window will restrict your development as a monk. I don't condone turning it off completely, but you should not be reliant on it.
In PVE, w/e, use it by itself. :P
master_of_puppets
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Originally Posted by BlueNovember
By clicking on them with your mouse.
Learning to monk without the party window is the difference between being a good monk and a great monk. You should place prots before some takes hits, look where target auras are facing, and be constantly mindful of the battlefield. Healing by using soley the party window will restrict your development as a monk. I don't condone turning it off completely, but you should not be reliant on it. In PVE, w/e, use it by itself. :P |
remmeh
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Originally Posted by KamikazeChicken
How am I supposed to heal everyone, if the party window isn't on my screen?
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seriously though, I never disable the party window unless i'm soloing.
OrangHebat
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Originally Posted by master_of_puppets
I'm sorry thats just dumb. Are you saying the "great monks" play with their party window off? Thats not the difference between a good monk and a great one..... Thats the difference between a normal person and a moron lol. Anyone with at least an ounce of intelligence woul be playing with it on. Especially if you're a monk. Doesnt matter how great at monking you are, you turn off the party window, you're gonna fail miserably. Wtf do you mean "not rely on it" ... What are you gonna rely on? Someone calling their health, status and where they are too "hey, I'm in front of you and a little to left can you plz heal me and do something about these 8 conditions and hexes"
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LifeInfusion
HP HP Blah blah blah.
Stop thinking about HP. leave HP to monks and the characters being beaten on to kite.
If you know people have disease, daze, deep wound, hexes, degen it is a forewarning of a place they are stepping on might be dangerous.
People keep forgetting that the conditions/hexes are also shown. That's probably important to people with hex/condition removals.
Stop thinking about HP. leave HP to monks and the characters being beaten on to kite.
If you know people have disease, daze, deep wound, hexes, degen it is a forewarning of a place they are stepping on might be dangerous.
People keep forgetting that the conditions/hexes are also shown. That's probably important to people with hex/condition removals.
Two April Mornings
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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
Party window only comes off when I solo, that's it.
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Uber-important.
baz777
It's always on!
Mostly play monk so vital but even if I am another class it's just as vital to know what's happening in the group, (run like mad and use rebirth when all around are dead!)
Mostly play monk so vital but even if I am another class it's just as vital to know what's happening in the group, (run like mad and use rebirth when all around are dead!)
silv3rr
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Originally Posted by BlueNovember
By clicking on them with your mouse.
Learning to monk without the party window is the difference between being a good monk and a great monk. You should place prots before some takes hits, look where target auras are facing, and be constantly mindful of the battlefield. Healing by using soley the party window will restrict your development as a monk. I don't condone turning it off completely, but you should not be reliant on it. In PVE, w/e, use it by itself. :P |
Countless times have I played with people that don't have chat opened (or they just don't notice the text scrolling on their screen) or even glance at the radar when we're in a battle... What usually happens is that we get swarmed by patrols and some idiot (usually the one that doesn't pay attention even though they didn't Leeroy) would scream "WHO THE F AGGRO'D??"
On-topic: I never turn it off other than solo/running (like everyone else ). It's so important no matter what class you're playing to be aware of everyone's status at all times; whether it be your casters are being pounded or the melees are suffering from hexes/conditions. That way you'll know what to expect; no nuking by the Eles because they have some hex on them or if others are crippled. Whenever I play my mesmer (I stack a couple of hex removal skills sometimes) I'm always hoping to see the W/Mo's HP bars turn pink, so that way I can Shatter Hex and do some damage to whatever's around them
Alleji
I don't shut it down unless I'm solo farming.
Carl Butanananowski
I always keep it on. Important to me to know whats happening to everyone else. Just by habit, I also look there for my own health as well. ><
Gun Pierson
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Originally Posted by BlueNovember
By clicking on them with your mouse.
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