Armour for a monk to go through game with and farm with? what should i buy?

stoop14

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Join Date: May 2005

I play prohicies, and i just got run to droks, and i don't know what armour to buy for my monk, he wont be doing any pvp, this will just to farm with, after i get threw the game.

Turbobusa

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ascetics, +energy for farming is always good
general purpose on a monk, I would say Acolyte's

stoop14

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Originally Posted by Turbobusa
ascetics, +energy for farming is always good
general purpose on a monk, I would say Acolyte's so your saying get all tattoo armour? what helm tattoo should i get for the +1?

Effigy

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The simple answer is that you should get a helm for each attribute. But if you can't afford that right now, get the one that corresponds to your highest attribute. Probably either DF or Healing, in PvE. A smiting helm might be good for solo farming, but if you're not planning on using it too much it doesn't really matter.

I Brother Bloood I

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Good question

For pve and pvp i use half tats and half +hp armor. Im not sure if +hp armor is in prophecies but w/e. For solo i use la tatoos(55) and shing jea/ascalon armor(spirit bonder)

stoop14

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you guys are using all this slang and i don't know the lingo lol, so i should a healing tatoo helm? and this isn't going to be for any kinda pvp so that info is useless too me. I also wana go threw the game with this character.

Tsai

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for farming with a monk, i assume your gonna go 55 monk, in which case ascetics tattoos are the way to go for +energy since armour wont matter. obviously you cant use this to play normally since youd have around 105 hp so you'd need to buy another set

For general purpose monk through the game, i'd have to say either ascetics again for the extra energy or censors/judges (same effect not sure what the one at droks is called) for +10 vs physical. cause you tend to have alot of angry things running up to you as a monk and try to get you aqquantied with something painful

stoop14

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsai
for farming with a monk, i assume your gonna go 55 monk, in which case ascetics tattoos are the way to go for +energy since armour wont matter. obviously you cant use this to play normally since youd have around 105 hp so you'd need to buy another set

For general purpose monk through the game, i'd have to say either ascetics again for the extra energy or censors/judges (same effect not sure what the one at droks is called) for +10 vs physical. cause you tend to have alot of angry things running up to you as a monk and try to get you aqquantied with something painful so your saying buy a ascetics tattoos set, and throw superior runes in all peices. then buy another armour to go threw the game with, and you say i should get the +10vs physical one?

also since u seam to know what ur talking about, for a 55monk then for a monk to just game with what skill should i have for my helms.

Effigy

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55 monk is a solo or small-group farming build. It's very effective for making money, but it doesn't work for doing quests/missions with a regular group. All monks should have a "normal" suit of armor for PvE, which would probably be either Aescetic's (energy) or Censor's/Judge's (armor vs physical). Then you can buy another suit of Aescetic's and put the superior runes on it if you want to do the 55 build as well; also note that you want to have Drok's armor as your main set, but you can buy cheaper tatoos from Lion's Arch or wherever for the 55 build, since your armor rating doesn't matter there.

stoop14

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Effigy
55 monk is a solo or small-group farming build. It's very effective for making money, but it doesn't work for doing quests/missions with a regular group. All monks should have a "normal" suit of armor for PvE, which would probably be either Aescetic's (energy) or Censor's/Judge's (armor vs physical). Then you can buy another suit of Aescetic's and put the superior runes on it if you want to do the 55 build as well; also note that you want to have Drok's armor as your main set, but you can buy cheaper tatoos from Lion's Arch or wherever for the 55 build, since your armor rating doesn't matter there. so but witch is better for going threw the game? Tats from droks or the armor vs physical or the armor vs elemental? And what runes do i put inot my main armour? I know what goes into 55 one, just not sure what ones go into my main one.

Tsai

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i mean no offence by this but ur obviously a bit newb (not noob). So i would reccomend a WoH healing build for starters since its a fairly effective healing build for PVE and doesnt require alot of e management skill. So for that your going to want a helm that gives +1 to healing. personally i prefer to put a major rune on my helm, because
A) its only 1 point less for healing but drains 40 less health
B) due to 55 farming, superior runes are expensive

For armour, id say its between ascetics if you find urself often running out of energy, or judges/censors if you find yourself beign attacked and losing health alot. Either way, you'll want the armour from droks for this as its the max armour lvl

Now for your 55 set, the tats from anywhere, u just want the extra energy. Although i reccomend buying the helm with +1 smiting rather than the +1 energy (i beleive lions arch is the cheapest) then, to bring your health down to 55 you will need a a superior rune on every piece. just use the search function and youll find tonnes on the 55 monk and set up

BUT I STRESS please please please never wear ur 55 set while monking normalling in groups. its really not that usefull in a group situation

*EDIT* oh also forgot to add, rune set up on your normal set. major on the helm as i said, then i like to add a major vigor, and minor healing prot and divine to the body pieces. This just gives you more health and means i can swap helms about when i change build and not have to wear a totally different set of armour. Also minor runes are like free points so always handy to have some for ur stats ^^

Tsai

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lag double post >.<

Effigy

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As Tsai said, you want to use the biggest Vigor rune you can afford, plus minor runes for all attributes on your armor. Since you have 4 primary attributes but only 5 pieces of armor, you may have to be a little strategic in how you organize them if you want to have a major/superior rune on the helm. If necessary, you can leave out the minor Smiting on the armor and just put it on a Smiting scalp, since it won't be used on normal monk builds.

stoop14

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can u just add all healing runes? Or is there a skill lvl cap?

stoop14

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double post

Tsai

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Afraid runes wont stack. Which means for example, having all 5 minor healing runes, only one would take affect so you would only receive a +1 to healing. Which means you both wasted money, and rune slots

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For Prophecies only get Wanderers for normal Monking and Ascetics for Farming all ascetics.

stoop14

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k so put one of each into all my armour? And use all minor but for a major that i should put into my helm? if i can afford a sup healing rune is that worth the life loss or no?

Age

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Quote:
Originally Posted by stoop14
k so put one of each into all my armour? And use all minor but for a major that i should put into my helm? You don't need to get a scalp ascetic piece for all your attribute only the one you want to use the most or just plain Devine Favour will do and don't use Majors as Minors are good enough unless you want to.

Effigy

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For PvE you can go with sup healing, but it really doesn't matter. I don't use it.

stoop14

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Effigy
For PvE you can go with sup healing, but it really doesn't matter. I don't use it. well to get threw the game i'll probably go a healer since, since its easy to get parties or i can just get henchies and keep them alive, so can u tell me exactly what i should put in what pls?

also no one has realy said what is better? tattoos for enery or +10 vs phyical or +10 vs ele(out of the 2 +10 ones personaly i would think the +10 ele would be better cause ur always back from the main back anyways just getting hit with ranged attacks. But i could be wrong cause i'm not very far into the game at all, so basicaly my question is what armour is best for pve.

Effigy

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Not sure exactly what you mean, but here's the setup I would use (for PvE, on a WoH healer):

Aescetic's Healing Scalp (Minor DF)
Aescetic's Chest Tatoos (Major/Sup Vigor)
Aescetic's Leg Tatoos (Minor Smiting)
Aescetic's Arm Tatoos (Minor Prot)
Aescetic's Foot Tatoos (Minor Healing)

I use this setup because I never wear superior runes during normal play, so I don't have to worry about my sup overlapping one of my minors. If you wanted to have a sup rune on the scalp, just rearrange it so the DF rune is somewhere other than the scalp and omit the smiting rune.

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For Elemental you would want to use Wanderers for Physical you want Censor's but depending onn what you can afford on Mat.Waderers would be your best bet .

stoop14

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Price realy isn't a factor, just wondering what is the best armor in droks to go threw the game with, and what sockets to go in what, i guess from the sounds of it i'm going to be going with a WoH build cause thats what i keep hearing to go with since i'm a noob.

Age

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Well you maybe new but not noob.I would go with what you like from Droks personally anyway when it come to the runes I have my devine favour in my head,healing on my arms or hands,smiting on my feet and protection on my legs and major vigor on my chest.It depends to on what Monk you are and secoundary.What Effigy said is fine if you want all tats with minors runes.It is ok to go with all tats in PvE.It is really your choice.

Effigy

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If you want to get into PvP in the near future, you will probably want to make a separate PvP only character for that, so tats are fine on your RP character. If you did want to get an RP character ready for PvP, armor is the least of your expenses.

James Bondo

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I find as a prot monk playing PvE Droks tats are the look I need , energy is a good thing for a monk to have. I put a super prot hat on and rune the rest of armor with minor runes except the chest and there I put a super vigor . I also have another super heal hat as well. (depending on if a healer is needed) Like if alot of mezing is going on and enchantments strip or cause a Bonder pain. You know you got it right when you put Vital Blessing on yourself to save yourself your health is 666 when it maxes out.

CtrlAltDel

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Yeah for the PvE get the Energy Regen armor. Best way to go.

stoop14

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kk so i bought a +1heal scalp tattoo helm, should i put a sup rune or a major in it or just a minor? the rest i guess i'll put minors of the other skills and throw a major vigor in chest (since 9life isn't worth 32k too me lol)

Effigy

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Vigor runes have no penalty, so use the largest one you can afford. If buying a superior, try to buy it from a player rather than the NPC vendor, since players will sell it cheaper.

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Originally Posted by CtrlAltDel
Yeah for the PvE get the Energy Regen armor. Best way to go. All armor has the same energy regen. Aescetic's armor gives +7 maximum energy, but it won't make you regen any faster.

CtrlAltDel

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er yeah, i knew that but i didnt type it right

i started this monk in factions so i can get the aescetic bonus on regular armor , dont need tat'd up. About to pick up my full Canthan style armor with the max energy bonuses. Might think about a set based off of Judges as well for PvP or something. Then its just saving for a 15k set.

James Bondo

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Yah tried Judges in PvE and the lack of energy cramped my style . Was sweating the blessed sig a little to hard (#8 key smoking) . Also if you start taking blows to the head you just have to suck it up and loop the agro back around the tanks, then go back to the back and keep the bonds/heals up. Dont try to go toe to toe with a wammo. Your a monk your a healer/protector what are you shooting your gun for .
LOL

Effigy

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I used Judge's throughout my entire PvE career on my monk without problems. If you're running out of energy a lot it's probably due to excessive pressure (not your fault), overhealing (unrelated to your armor), or lack of energy management (again, unrelated to your armor). +7 max energy is always nice, but far from necessary. Then again, +10 physical armor is also unecessary (in PvE anyway) so it's really just a matter of personal preference. You won't notice that much of a difference either way (again, talking PvE here).

stoop14

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Quote:
Originally Posted by stoop14
kk so i bought a +1heal scalp tattoo helm, should i put a sup rune or a major in it or just a minor? the rest i guess i'll put minors of the other skills and throw a major vigor in chest (since 9life isn't worth 32k too me lol) for the super major or minor in the helm, i ment healing rune. Vigor is going to go in my armour. I was basicaly asking witch healing one i should put in helm? Also then i put major vigor in chest then one of the rest minors in the rest correct?

CtrlAltDel

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I went from my Factions base armor to my 1.5k cantha (Aescetic bonus type) in like 2 or 3 nights playing...that SO MUCH easier than the grind to the 1.5k armor in GWP.

Now I'll go back to the island and get to level 18ish before I start on the mainland quests. Currently level 13

Kusandaa

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I currently have 15k Luxon Ascetics (I don't like body tats O_o), sup healing rune on head tat, no vigor rune yet but it'd go on my chest piece. Got no energy problem when groups don't over-aggro, and I've beaten Prophecies last night with ease (had beaten Factions a while ago).

stoop14

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so i got the full tattoos from droks, i got a healing helm.

Now what runes do i put into what? I'll be a WoH build i guess. So we can end this thread once and for all

Age

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Quote:
Not sure exactly what you mean, but here's the setup I would use (for PvE, on a WoH healer):

Aescetic's Healing Scalp (Minor DF)
Aescetic's Chest Tatoos (Major/Sup Vigor)
Aescetic's Leg Tatoos (Minor Smiting)
Aescetic's Arm Tatoos (Minor Prot)
Aescetic's Foot Tatoos (Minor Healing)

I use this setup because I never wear superior runes during normal play, so I don't have to worry about my sup overlapping one of my minors. If you wanted to have a sup rune on the scalp, just rearrange it so the DF rune is somewhere other than the scalp and omit the smiting rune. Do what Effigy has suggested and follow this.To the rest the OP is asking about Prophecies only armour not Cantha.

heroajax1

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Quote:
Originally Posted by stoop14
i just got run to droks go back and learn how to play properly. don't cheat the game, you'll only pay for it in the end when you become frustrated that you can't keep your team alive.

having said that. it truly doesn't matter what armor you choose. they all have their benefits and drawbacks. personally, i chose the censor's armor w/tat arms and feet to counter the energy lost. i now have the 15k judges w/tat arms and feet.

if you're having energy problems, then you have too many (more than 1) 10 energy heals in your bar. i never went with anything other than censors. well, there was this time i tried the saintly, but let's not go into that here.

Effigy

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There's nothing wrong with getting a run, but I'd recommend going back and playing the missions in order if you are new to the game. The learning curve is less steep this way and you'll also gain levels and gold.