Ok, I'm fully aware that this is all speculation, but I'm pretty certain I remember reading somewhere that Nightfall will tie together the loose ends of Prophecies and Factions, or something along those lines anyway.
It struck me, what if this "tying together" means an absolue final mission of the current occurences that is only available to characters that have completed all three campaigns?
You might think they wouldn't sell you stuff that you can't do without having the other campaigns, but keep in mind they've added a load of Assassin and Ritualist skills, which unless you owned Factions as well as nightfall you couldn't access.
I just finished getting one of my characters through both of the current campaigns because I have a feeling there will be something.
Just wondering if people think I'm insane or if like me, you wouldn't put it past Anet.
"Tying together of loose ends" In Nightfall?
Zallya
Dr Wu
I don't know if tying up the lose ends has any bearing on the game as a whole, but I am in the process of getting my favorite chars thru' Factions, so I can introduce them to Nightfall..this, to me, is a grind, because I hate (with a passion) the slum areas of Factions..if I had purchased Factions first, I don't think I would have continued with the game.
I am looking forward to Nightfall, and, hopefully, will have my 'well honed' Prophercies/Factions chars ready.
Dr Wu
I am looking forward to Nightfall, and, hopefully, will have my 'well honed' Prophercies/Factions chars ready.
Dr Wu
bigwig
pointless and groundless speculation
Ninna
we will find out in 10 days 
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10044494
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10044494
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| Nightfall is "an apocalypse", says Jeff Strain. "It's an endpoint." It will tie up some loose ends from Prophecy and Factions. But don't worry, Chapter 4 is in the works, and hints of what's to come can be found within Nightfall. |
Knightsaber Sith
The plot line ties up the loose ends from the other campaigns; but its game mechanics (i.e. access to the final mission) are completely independant. Keep in mind it is a "stand-alone" game.
Quid Pro Quo
My theory is that this will bring an end to a lot of the problems we saw occur and answer a lot of questions with the new chapter(4) opening up a new story arch with no new proffessions just a hell of a lot of content.
gr3g
There are some loose threads that I would really like closed before C4.
- How exactly did Khilbron destroy Orr? Is the Scepter of Orr a way of channelling the banished god's power? It would explain its power over the undead.
- What really happened in the Angsiyan/Shiro story?
- Who exactly are the Envoys?
Zinger314
The best theory I've heard is that you'll fight the Lich and Shiro again in the Realm of Torment, right before Abaddon.
1. Khilbron destroyed Orr by reading forbidden scrolls. Ask the NPC in Hell's Precipice.
2. It doesn't matter. They both die, the Jade Wind happens. Big whoop.
3. See Factions manual.
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There are some loose threads that I would really like closed before C4.
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2. It doesn't matter. They both die, the Jade Wind happens. Big whoop.
3. See Factions manual.
gr3g
I want lore, not glib answers.
Zinger314
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I want lore, not glib answers.
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anna
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1 and 3 both fall under lore. 2, as I said, no one cares.
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Anna
ValaOfTheFens
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Actually, I've always wondered about the Shiro story. I'd like to know what really happened.
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abyssal hunter
your all missing the big picture.... and it is "What happened(s) to Gwen?"
Zinger314
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I suspect Abbadon had something to do with what Shiro did. How can a guy who was the Emperor's most trusted bodyguard suddenly become his enemy?
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Watch the Harvest Temple cutscene again (at Unwaking Waters).
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your all missing the big picture.... and it is "What happened(s) to Gwen?"
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Lord Sarevok
The Shiro story is not completely summed in the manual nor in in game cinematics. Perhaps the most pressing of which is why is Shiro an envoy? And why is he powerful with the ability to steal the essence of the emperor? And even if he did, who cares.. what's special about the emperor. On a more theoretical note, why don't all envoys do what Shiro did, who's looking out over them to make sure they are doing their job.
I expect the Vizier Khilbron affair with the staff to be cleaned up in Nightfall, like where did the scepter go at the end of Prophecies.
I expect the Vizier Khilbron affair with the staff to be cleaned up in Nightfall, like where did the scepter go at the end of Prophecies.
Urban_Nomad
Being an Envoy is a punishment, they escort the dead to paradise, but never get to go themselves, for eternity. Shiro did bad things=Shiro becomes an Envoy.
Shiro presumably doesn't like being undead, despite being all powerful. I can see his point. Being a spirit, let alone an Envoy, probably isn't peachy. He tries to become mortal again, we kill him.
All pretty simple, I don't have a problem with any of that, but:
The question, methinks, is why the heck did half of Cantha turn to Jade and stone when he died? As far as I know he was just a regular body guard.... Maybe he just had a kickass Death Nova spell, but it still bugs me.
As far as Prophecies, most of the big stuff is tied up, but with a lot of holes they could fill if they so choose. None of it directly affects the storyline, though, even though they could answer a lot of questions. And Zinger is right about Khilbron. He tried to save Orr by reading a forbidden scroll and ended up blowing Orr to bits and turning himself into a complete jerk.
Shiro presumably doesn't like being undead, despite being all powerful. I can see his point. Being a spirit, let alone an Envoy, probably isn't peachy. He tries to become mortal again, we kill him.
All pretty simple, I don't have a problem with any of that, but:
The question, methinks, is why the heck did half of Cantha turn to Jade and stone when he died? As far as I know he was just a regular body guard.... Maybe he just had a kickass Death Nova spell, but it still bugs me.
As far as Prophecies, most of the big stuff is tied up, but with a lot of holes they could fill if they so choose. None of it directly affects the storyline, though, even though they could answer a lot of questions. And Zinger is right about Khilbron. He tried to save Orr by reading a forbidden scroll and ended up blowing Orr to bits and turning himself into a complete jerk.
gamecube187
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1 and 3 both fall under lore. 2, as I said, no one cares.
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Oh, and my unrelated, I mean new story.
Alana Fier
Actually I hope they tie up some end with Gwen, lol sounds silly But I'm still holding onto her cape and flute :x Oh and some flowers as well.
Konrow
I just want the game to be good. the only thing i need "tied up" is gwen's story and possibly some additional twist to the Prophecies story. Factions wasn't as mysterious and fairly easy to understand.
Clawdius_Talonious
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And Zinger is right about Khilbron. He tried to save Orr by reading a forbidden scroll and ended up blowing Orr to bits and turning himself into a complete jerk.
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Illuminus
Factions was kind of messy with the story imo. I also agree with Urban_Nomad on the jade explosion thing.. but the idea itself was quite cool and unique.
Hyper Cutter
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The question, methinks, is why the heck did half of Cantha turn to Jade and stone when he died? As far as I know he was just a regular body guard.... Maybe he just had a kickass Death Nova spell, but it still bugs me.
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Fluffyx
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Perhaps the real Khilbron did, but if I'm not mistaken the "Khilbron" we encounter in the Prophicies storyline was just the Lich in disguise...?
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Now putting those together it seems that the forbidden magic he used had of course killed him but it changed him into an undead lich.
At least thats what I've believed from playing through the game many times.
Genraka
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The question, methinks, is why the heck did half of Cantha turn to Jade and stone when he died? As far as I know he was just a regular body guard.... Maybe he just had a kickass Death Nova spell, but it still bugs me.
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Look at the factions CG Cinematic, when Shiro kills the emperor you can see like the emperors spirit being absorbed into shiro (the Emperor's royal line must contain special power from the gods), when Archemorus and Saint Viktor killed him that power was released as the jade wind.
Which happends again after we kill shiro, when the adepts run to him and make a barrier so the second jade wind incases his body is jade.
Well..thats the way i understand it.