can anyone help me become a better assassin?

No one wants to group me and I understand why. I freakin suck with my assassin. hardest class to use bar none IMO. But I love it.. im a naruto and general ninja fan bla bla bla...

But I just stink at this class. Its so hard. I need some really good tips to how to have succes in PvE. I need you guys to tell me what to do so I can be a good assassin and keep a good reputation in PvE groups. I dont wanna be the sin that screws it up for the rest of the group.

The sad thing is that I know it... when I took my Warrior through factions there was always some dumb assassin who died constantly. now I know how they feel.. and I need help


I love melee classes, and I wanna play something else than my warrior. another option would be to wait for deverish in NF, but I like daggers much more than scytches, so I really wanna do a sin...

But I wanna do a sin right!


What skill to use? what secondary? what templates to dabble in? what is bullit proof? why do I die after five seconds, and why does the enemies block/evade/miss everything i throw at them?

This should be posted in the Assassin's Forum.

Skills to use:

Lead Attack
Off-Hand Attack
Dual Attack
Off-Hand Attack/Dual Attack
Defense/Healing
Healing
Teleport Away
Rez Signet/Hard Rez

The most important skill you must have is intelligence. You must know who to attack, when and when to runaway.

When I created my Assassin, I had another of my characters find a set of daggers that had +15% damage when enchanted. So I created an A/Mo (who else has long lasting enchantments?). Eventually I had skills that utilized hexes and I found daggers that did +15% damage on hexed foes. So I switched to A/Ne (who else has life giving hexes?). I wanted to make sure I also had a way to get rid of conditions. Eventually I purchased the Signet of Malice. My hexes were long enough, my enchantments were long enough and I had a condition remover. So I then decided to change again for A/W. Balanced Stance and Wild Blow work great (no kds, critical hits, no fear of stances, blocking or evades).

There is no way for a melee character with the armor of a ranger and no defenses whatso ever can ever expect to be immune to death. As you know, death is inevitable (as in real life - the only absolutes are death and taxes; thankfully, in GW, we have no taxes )

Skills can be segregated into 3 types:
Fast recharge
Good damage
Condition

While you won't find all three in a single skill, some have 2 of the three.

Unsuspecting Strike is a good Lead Attack
In the early stages, Fox Fangs is a good second attack (can't be blocked or evaded). Twisted Fangs is basically a must (good damage, bleeding and deep wounds).

Teleport away is good with Recall or Return (or Aura of Displacement (e))

Teleporting in without a way out is a spelling of trouble. Get in, do your damage and get out. My rule is once you are hit, leave as fast as you can.

I only die because of my stupidity or because I get spiked (or group wants to resign; or no one keeps NPCs alive).

Healing - sadly its either Shadow Refuge or Way of Perfection (you should take Critical eye and Critical Strike if you use this one). Heart of Shadow is okay, but teleporting near another enemy is not good.

Watchout for Blinding from Rangers (throw dirt). Evades and blocking can be countered by Wild Blow, a lucky Wild Strike, Way of the Fox, and Expose Defenses. Using WotF and ED, Wild Strike can remove a stance, which would allow all other attacks to be able to hit. Since its hard to get that 1st hit once a defense is up, use WotF or ED first, then lead with your unblockable/unevadable chain.

As a Monk and a Ritualist, I don't care if an Assassin dies, as long as they do their best, I'm happy. If they aggro insainely, then I get annoyed. As a Necromancer, I love silly Assassins (not stupid ones), as they try to kill, then they die. I use their bodies as a well or as a minion.
As a Warrior and a Ranger, Assassins can do wonders, but they must stay out of harms way.

And as an Assassin, I know from the other professions, that running away is preferable than to stand there and die. Never tank, never stay in the fray more than necessary and make sure that you can escape danger.

Hope this helps you.

Good luck.

P.S. Watchout for Death Novas and Afflicted's own version of DN. Theirs cannot be removed (I've tried in various ways, didn't work )

To the OP, i feel your pain my friend. Personally i find that my assassin's best friend is AOD, it allows you to tele in, pop an important enemy ele or monk then pop back out. Once you finish off your selected target i recommend protecting your casters because assassins are good at dealing, not taking dmg so if there's a couple of knights smacking your monk around then your going to make yourself more usefull by protecting them rather then rushing back to the front lines while your AOD is recharging. With that being said i also recommend bringing blinding powder to also help defend your casters or to just plain mess up the initial assault by the mob because you can easily AOD in hit your combo, powder them then retreat. I dunno, just my 2 cents, hope it helps...

assassin / rangers
throw dirt is a good skill to have
it will allow you to tank long anuff to git out of the fray
the traps come in handy too

Throw dirt is pretty useless at 0 expertise which is the attribute associated with it which is ranger primary....Perhaps you mean ranger / assassin.... But i am curious about your assassin trap scenario

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Assassins suck in pve. accept it.

I actually got through factions with my sin that had no teleport at all with only 24 deaths. Sins despite popular belief arent totally squishy. Things like critical deffence, shroud of distress, flashing blades etc make it very easy to hang around while still not worrying to much about deaths. The fact is if you go with a nice quick recharging combo you can 80% of the time kill your enemy before they can get of 2-3 attacks.
My advice to you would be to take 1-2 deffence skill and a heal like shadow refuge, wait for tanks to engage then slip past them to the enemy backline. You can then easily dispatch any casters or rangers who happen to be there.

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If you want a blind skill on an A/R, Blinding Powder would be better than Throw Dirt. The blind will last longer and it has less than half the recharge.

problem with it is that it only effects one foe
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throw dirt affects foe and foe adjacent to your target
usually won you are attacking a monk he/she has bodyguards
against a single target blinding powder is better

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It's really hard to get a good group as an assassin in pve unless you're with a group of friends or guildies. It doesn't matter what your skill level is, sins are just seen as the useless class since they can't tank as well as warriors, they have less armor than rangers who aren't even close in combat, they have no healing/support like monks or rits, and they can't do large amounts of damage to large amounts of enemies like eles or necros. The only class that's just as hard to get a group is mesmer because there's less of a need to shut down one target or deal lots of damage to only one target. With that said, good luck practicing your sin and get friends/guildies to help out.

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An assassin is a bit like a warrior in permanent frenzy, so you'll never be as good as core classes and you'll always suck in most situations, sadly. Of course you can do some cool things, like shadow form and shadow shroud, but you can't nuke, or distract and confuse the monsters. The good assassins I see can stay alive and kill a few things, and consider that success. I don't know how good they get in pve.

If you want a place to practice, try THK. It's fun, and a nice confidence-booster. If you want a challenge, maybe try to 4 or 5-man it with henchies.

The factions missions are much more difficult in certain ways, and I don't know if that's intentional or not.

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Pick Me, that was some awesome advice, and I agree with you whole heartedly. I also agree with Isileth here.

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