my new abing build

I Got A Tip For You

You Forgot Mending Lol Zumg Dont Forget That Elite Skill In Your 3773 Build !!

lololol - ismokecrack, you're build is really very shocking indeed, and Kankus, chill out bud. Oh, also I absolutely loved the way you spelled "PL8 mail", are 2 extra letters really so hard to type?

Sorry, but according to you guys, every build should use sprint, healing signet, frenzy and res signet with 16 in swordsmanship. It leaves room for 4 other skills which, again according to you, can't be of any other professions except for plague touch.

ANY TIPS ARE APPRECIATED doesnt mean "tell me that my build is pure crap and propose me the cookie cutter build that every one else is using".

If the guy is coming here asking for advice, obviously he wants good advice. In other words, advice that is based on knowledge of the actual game mechanics and how they can be used to one's advantage. Telling him, "Yeah, platemail and Healing Hands are the way to go. Here's a cookie!" would not be good advice. It might make him feel good in the short term, but it would not help him become a better player, which is obviously the goal of this thread.

Telling people who use strategy in Guild Wars to go play StarCraft is idiotic, not to mention pointless. GW takes more player skill than any other game I've encountered and, in any event, RTS is a completely different playstyle and requires a completely different type of skill.

And as for saying that we're promoting cookie cutter builds, the one in the OP is practically identical to the Paladin premade. It is cookie cutter by definition, and the fact that experienced players don't use it seems to suggest something about its effectiveness.

Back to the topic, karunpav's advice is mostly on the mark. Turbobusa, you don't need a res in AB. As far as the original stats, your helm should correspond to your highest attribute since this will give you the most efficient point spread. Switch to a +1 Swordmanship helm, and consider using a superior sword rune. Gladiator's or Berserker's are generally the best armor options for PvP. Stances will help you prevent a lot of damage so you don't need to heal it, thus Tactics is good.

Kanuks, chill out a bit man. No one is saying that he's all crap and all warriors should play the same build. They're just trying to help.

I mean, the truth is that you can play whatever the hell build you want in pve, but in pvp, unless you want to be eating dirt and copping crap, there are just certain things you need.

Having no running skill like sprint, rush, charge etc means that unless you're fighting newbies, or npcs, that any decent player is going to kite you. That is, run away, while a warrior with a melee weap is going to have to chase. You won't get many hits then, meaning you are just about useless. For added fun, quite a few carry some running skill, so you won't even be able to keep up. And there are plenty who'll just slap a degen on you and run off while you slowly die, like poison, disease, bleeding, life transfer etc. You should at least carry bullstrike or hamstring (or one of the ele ice spells) so they don't run off.

Healing sig is recommended if you want some healing cause it only needs one skill slot and you can get a +1 easy with a minor rune (which you have no reason not to have). In AB it can be helpful, though if you can get a balanced four, you should just trust the team healer to take care of you.

Frenzy is the preferred IAS cause its good. You want an IAS, cause you not only apply more pressure and damage, but also gain adren quicker to fuel your attack skills to do more damage and keep up DPS. You also want it if you ever want to spike, to reduce the time between your hits to try and do enough damage (with your team) before the target gets healed by their monk.
And frenzy is preferred cause it's only drawback is the extra damage you take. You'll find that in pvp, most teams will not target a war, unless he's over extended or the rest of his team's dead. So if you aren't being targeted, taking extra damage is not a drawback. And if you also carry sprint, you can cancel frenzy at will if they attack you. Flurry can be used, though it reduces damage which is bad. Good for pve, though. And the other main IAS that seems to get mentioned is tiger stance. Good enough for pve, but in pvp, as soon as you attack, you'll more likely as not get some block, blind or evade stance and boom, your precious IAS is ended after like 3 secs, and you have a 20 sec recharge. If you want to use it at all, you need to like carry attacks that don't miss or warriors cunning, which takes up more room on your bar.

As for res sig, if you don't carry a res of some form, you're an idiot full stop. I don't like to be negative, but even in pve you should carry a res unless you're just farming or running. And a res sig cause its quick. You think in pvp you're going to have like 5-8 secs to stand there and do nothing? You'll likely be interrupted and killed long before then. And while you stand there like a fool, your team is suddenly down two bodies rather than one. If you have 8 secs to spare, your team has already won and res doesn't matter anyway. In pve, carry whatever res you want. AB you don't need a res since you get auto res but otherwise...

And as for 16 weap attrib, thats just for damage. More crits and more +damage on skills. And that is the whole purpose of a warrior is it not? To kill our enemies? To squish the squishies? In pve, most mobs are lucky to get any healing, at best a lone monk or a monk and a rit in factions. And most monsters when attacked have no defences (except nagas and devourers with their evades and minos with their blocks, maybe more but thats all I remember right now) and just stupidly stand there and die. Run up to a monk in pve, and he'll stand there and try to tank your damage. Run up to a monk in pvp, and he'll kite and possibly some blocking enchant. Thats why in pve you can put your skills anywhere, you can carry no skills and just rely on normal attacks, the damage will eventually add up, even if slowly. In pvp, if your damage is weak, a human monk will heal it with ease and you may as well have just been afk for the good you do. If you're going that route, you should at least carry some form of deepwound and distracting blow to contribute something unless you just plan on leeching.

As for plague touch, it gets carried cause its just so good. Especially with quivering. But I don't think anyone here is saying you can only be a pure W or W/N. There are plenty of other class combos. You remember the old W/R? And all the shock axes? And all the KD/AS warriors? There are some KD/holy strikers about too. Haven't tried W/A yet, but there are plenty out there.

Anyway, sorry for going on, but I reckon we should have some pride as a warrior, plus I don't think anyone enjoys playing and getting killed constantly. And if you want to survive and kill anyone, there are just some things you need no matter what you may want.

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Try this for a W/Mo
16 Hammer {12+3+1}
10 Strength {9+1}
7 Tactics {6+1}
7 Smite
Earthshaker/Devastating Hammer (ES is for Anti-MM, KD the whole lot of em)
Crushing Blow
-Attack-
-Attack-
Frenzy
Sprint/Rush {Your Pick}
Healing Signet
Justiciar's Insight

Attacks:

With Davastating Hammer-
Fierce Blow
Heavy Blow

With Eartshaker-
Crude Swing
Belly Smash

Consider taking Bull's Strike instead of the second Attack on each list


Take ES for some Anti-Mob, and DH for single target killing.

~and you do not need a ressurect for AB. Waste of a slot.


-Spirit, Hammers for life.

Ok, this threads turning into a OMG WAMMO'S SUCK thread. Closed.