Critical Sythe Build - "A/D Disciple of Death" - Help needed

Sir On The Edge

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Space Rangers

R/A

20 Oct 2006 at 09:27 - 1
I have 3 very diferent but very similar builds. LINK TO BUILDS

But I need help because I can't deside:
1. If one is much better than the others.
2. If there is a way of incorporating Way of Perfection with Whirling Charge.
3. If they are all good, should I post them seporatly or as varients?

I'm also looking for your constructive critisism so give it to me strait but with some thought if you know what I mean.

9th Requiem

9th Requiem

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guardians of the Stars

Mo/R

20 Oct 2006 at 11:36 - 2
Wearying Strike + Assassin's Remedy is a nice combo, hadn't thought about putting that on my Crit scyther. I'd go with the middle one, but swapping out Crippling Sweep for Reap Impurities. Crippled in PvE isn't all that useful, and the extra damage against foes suffering from either DW or bleeding will be great.

You've got a nice 67% critical chance there, good melee defence, and regular health increase, not to mention a good DPS even before attack skills. Overall, I'd say that looks like build with good staying power, although you should still watch out for incoming spells.

Sir On The Edge

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Space Rangers

R/A

20 Oct 2006 at 17:15 - 3
I've changed it to 2 builds with vairients using your sugestions.

TadaceAce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

21 Oct 2006 at 03:48 - 4
That is actually a very impressive build... probably the best melee build I've ever seen without an IAS. I'd drop way of perfection and the shadow arts spec, I'd also drop critical defenses. I'd put in critical eye and um... oo malicious strike (yeah just saw that one browsing skills)

I'm usually very critical about any build that doesn't have ias but wow, this is a pretty good build.

Guardian of the Light

Guardian of the Light

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Radicals Against Tyrants

W/

21 Oct 2006 at 07:04 - 5
USe the assassin skill http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Malicious_Strike

YES it is a melee attack and yes it's begging to be used by A/Ds

O ya and btw there are a few other ppl who made A/D builds too http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10057357

Sir On The Edge

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Space Rangers

R/A

21 Oct 2006 at 09:25 - 6
I like that skill a lot . Awsome responces and I've added an IAS vairient because some people just don't use em without an IAS.

However I have to disagree with you when you tell me to take out way of perfection and critical defenses as they are integral parts in the survivability of this build. (Critical Defenses more than Way of Perfection)


Edit: ok now i've chaged it quite a lot to fit in with all the new changes (so if you did not see this edit before then look again please)

Edit2: Yes I did get caried away then didn't I..... sory.

unholy guardian

unholy guardian

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Lost Haven

A/Mo

21 Oct 2006 at 13:04 - 7
asssasin's promise is defiantly nice, i had a build that involved it, worked much better than the dervish builds i used for scythes.

Those 3 builds are pretty sweet, found out about malcious strike awhile back, seems like an awesome skill..

Sir On The Edge

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Space Rangers

R/A

21 Oct 2006 at 14:02 - 8
While Assassin's Promise is a nice skill, it is also an eliet and so there are many other skils that could be used instead to greater effect.

Entheos Geon

Entheos Geon

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2006

Minnesota

21 Oct 2006 at 20:25 - 9
Way of the Assassin and Whirling Charge wouldn't really work well, as they're both stances. I'd rather have Malicious Strike instead of Whirling Charge.

Sir On The Edge

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Space Rangers

R/A

21 Oct 2006 at 20:34 - 10
Good catch, that makes choosing the build even simpler.

Edit: That varient is still in there.

Edit 2: Thanks for making a profile just to comment on my build and welcome to the board.

TadaceAce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

22 Oct 2006 at 01:55 - 11
I'm more of an all out damage guy, pve is easy, if your monks are worth a flying **** (which they will be since you can make a good monk hero) you don't need defense.

I'd run:
16 crit, 12 scythe
Wearying Strike
Malicious Strike
Chilling Victory
Assassins Remedy
Sharpen Daggers
Critical Eye
Way of the Assassin
Rez Sig

Use either a zealous of vamp scythe I don't know at this point depends what energy is like.

This gives you a 16+37+7+20 = 80% (or slightly less since its prolly not that simple) and wearying strike + assassins remedy is just a sweet combo. Malicious strike is just amazing in this build. Since malicious strike and wearying strike are only 5 energy and this build will rack up insane amounts of energy if hitting multiple people you can use the wonderful chilling victory to do massive damage.

unholy guardian

unholy guardian

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Lost Haven

A/Mo

22 Oct 2006 at 04:43 - 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir On The Edge
While Assassin's Promise is a nice skill, it is also an eliet and so there are many other skils that could be used instead to greater effect.
oops ment way of the assassin :P

Sir On The Edge

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Space Rangers

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22 Oct 2006 at 09:39 - 13
Chilling Victory... That one will sap energy fast.

I'll add it to varients anyway.

Karmaniac

Karmaniac

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

25 Oct 2006 at 10:30 - 14
I like the idea very much. Scythe seems like an ideal weapon for critical build since it has the highest maximum damage but the damage range is wider than barn door. With that high a critical chance it could potentially outdamage even pure dervish (or maybe not if the dervish uses some form of damage boost).

Anyways good thinking Robin.

Sir On The Edge

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Space Rangers

R/A

25 Oct 2006 at 17:30 - 15
No I have to disagree, you are Robin.