Nightfall Special Rewards
Tiltowait
In Cantha if you control a town you get a reward of 20% discounted merchant pricing in the special area reserved for the controlling guild. Since Nightfall does not have a comparable town control system, I was wondering if there were alternative means to get special rewards. I did not advance too far in the preview so was wondering if those who did gained access to any special rewards. For example, if you achieved a high Sunspear officer ranking it would be nice to have access to a spot in a town open only to Sunspear officers with NPC's there who give discounts up to the max 20% for a Sunspear Marshal.
Tetris L
As you proceed through the storyline you gain access to more skills, elite skills, more heroes, advanced weapons, advanced armor, better loot, ...
Do you need more rewards?
Do you need more rewards?
Jecht Scye
Sometimes I wonder to myself why guilds even go through a ridiculous amount of faction farming to hold a town.
Tiltowait
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Originally Posted by Tetris L
As you proceed through the storyline you gain access to more skills, elite skills, more heroes, advanced weapons, advanced armor, better loot, ...
Do you need more rewards? |
baggy
I would agree that the faction-farming aspect of Factions is flawed. A LOT of work for so little return. However, I would be in favor of reduced prices based on a high rank like Sunspear Legend (or something like that). Allowing access to the elite mission based on rank seems like a goal oriented aspect as well.
Good call!
Good call!
Guildmaster Cain
But those merchant goods really suck, nothing special about them.
But if you insist on having merchant discounts, why dont you ask for discount in you Guild Hall. My Guild Hall has all NPCs, but none of them will offer lowered prices
. Isnt that unfair? I want to kick them out again....
But if you insist on having merchant discounts, why dont you ask for discount in you Guild Hall. My Guild Hall has all NPCs, but none of them will offer lowered prices
. Isnt that unfair? I want to kick them out again....
Tiltowait
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Originally Posted by Guildmaster Cain
But those merchant goods really suck, nothing special about them.
But if you insist on having merchant discounts, why dont you ask for discount in you Guild Hall. My Guild Hall has all NPCs, but none of them will offer lowered prices . Isnt that unfair? I want to kick them out again.... |
Tetris L
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Originally Posted by Tiltowait
Perhaps you missed the question in my post or I wasn't clear enough. In Cantha there is a system implemented where one can get discounts on merchant goods if you control a town and I was wondering if something similar might exist in Elona. I would particularly like it if it was linked to one's Sunspear rank through a special area open only to Sunspear officers. I did not see this in the preview and was curious if any sort of similar reward system had been implemented in Nightfall.
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I'm aware of the merchant discount for alliances holding an outpost in the Echovald or Jade Sea. But this isn't comparable with Nightfall since Nightfall doesn't have faction (except with Balthazar), so it wouldn't make sense.
Sunspear rank is used to unlock the 2 x 15 attribute points, and determine when you're "ready" to proceed with the storyline, i.e. when certain gates open for you. Is that a "special" reward in your eyes?
Skids
Surely though once you achieve a Sunspear rank you cannot lose it?
Obviously you can lose faction.
Therefore the reward system for Sunspear rank would be all the time, which isnt the same as factions holding a town.
Additionally, dont forget that you have nothing like this in Tyria and no one complained then, and the Dev team predominantly working on NF is the Tyrian team.
Sounds me a little like someone wants to have their cake, eat it and then have a truck load more!
Obviously you can lose faction.
Therefore the reward system for Sunspear rank would be all the time, which isnt the same as factions holding a town.
Additionally, dont forget that you have nothing like this in Tyria and no one complained then, and the Dev team predominantly working on NF is the Tyrian team.
Sounds me a little like someone wants to have their cake, eat it and then have a truck load more!
Clobimon
Just going by the event, basing access to discount areas by character's Sunspear rank wouldn't be very effective. I say this because it wasn't very difficult or time consuming to achieve the fifth or sixth tier in just a few days. We know that Sunspear Legend is 10,000 points. Unless it's restricted to Legends (or above?) and it becomes incredibly difficult to gain points after tier seven, I would assume that a huge number of players will gain access and most will after a few weeks.
The thought is good though. Having 'perks' attained through promotion is a nice idea, but they also seem like an inevitable gain for any character that a player uses quite often.
The thought is good though. Having 'perks' attained through promotion is a nice idea, but they also seem like an inevitable gain for any character that a player uses quite often.
Lord Sarevok
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Originally Posted by Clobimon
Just going by the event, basing access to discount areas by character's Sunspear rank wouldn't be very effective. I say this because it wasn't very difficult or time consuming to achieve the fifth or sixth tier in just a few days. We know that Sunspear Legend is 10,000 points. Unless it's restricted to Legends (or above?) and it becomes incredibly difficult to gain points after tier seven, I would assume that a huge number of players will gain access and most will after a few weeks.
The thought is good though. Having 'perks' attained through promotion is a nice idea, but they also seem like an inevitable gain for any character that a player uses quite often. |
Sir Skullcrasher
I would think that means the Alliance Battle system won't be in Nightfall? Meaning no towns to control right?
Knightsaber Sith
^Obviously not...
GloryFox
The simple response...
NO
NO
sindex
That was a Factions specifically implemented feature in that campaign. So no I doubt it will happen in Nightfall. Hopefully later on in campaign 4 there will be some new merchant style stuff for guilds, but until then the answer is verily unlikely.
Neo Nugget
i like the idea of the sunspear discount.
Yeah mabey we'll get "Guild storage"?lol
Yeah mabey we'll get "Guild storage"?lol
TheMosesPHD
If you get a high enough Sunspear ranking you should gain the ability to PK Sunspears with lower ranks. A general's gotta keep his colonel's in line somehow doesn't he?
LifeInfusion
If anything the Factions Alliance system should have allowed people with certain level of lux/kurz faction to enter Elite missions regardless of their alliance.
I think Arenanet learned from the Factions Elite missions that only a small portion of players got to play it through and they probably won't do the same for Nightfall.
I think Arenanet learned from the Factions Elite missions that only a small portion of players got to play it through and they probably won't do the same for Nightfall.
floppinghog
if you call discounted merchants a special reward.. damn man you need to get out more. seriously. get the fk outside
bigwig
Since getting sunspear ranks is required to get more quests and level, most people will have it won't they? So everyones going to have this special reward? So how is it a special reward at all? You just want cheap merchandise.
What is the point of your post? To make fun of some guy who plays guild wars? Great. Maybe next you can make fun of people who use internet forums.
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if you call discounted merchants a special reward.. damn man you need to get out more. seriously. get the fk outside
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Jeffy Jean
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if you call discounted merchants a special reward.. damn man you need to get out more. seriously. get the fk outside
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For instance, the Sunspear Legend title requires 10,000 Sunspear Promotion Points. This lofty goal imay be comparable with the Savoir title which requires 10,000,000 faction. What if obtaining this goal would open up an elite mission with unique drops? Perhaps even containing an armor NPC at the end of the mission? Or perhaps even add a special mysterious hero to the rooster?
Very good opening post Tiltowait!!!!
Spirit Of Azrael
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Originally Posted by Jecht Scye
Sometimes I wonder to myself why guilds even go through a ridiculous amount of faction farming to hold a town.
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So everyone who comes in nows how special they are. I use special in a "Ralph Wiggum" sort of way.
Thea Rohan
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I think that Tiltowait was using the discounted merchants as an example, and what he was implying was that there would be a reward associated with unlocking a title.
For instance, the Sunspear Legend title requires 10,000 Sunspear Promotion Points. This lofty goal imay be comparable with the Savoir title which requires 10,000,000 faction. What if obtaining this goal would open up an elite mission with unique drops? Perhaps even containing an armor NPC at the end of the mission? Or perhaps even add a special mysterious hero to the rooster? Very good opening post Tiltowait!!!! |
As to the talk about you getting alot already then so what? Do you go for titles so ppl can see your title or for you to know? So now there is more than just an ego thing, you get something for doing it. When someone wearing the maxed whatever title I normally say something like nice or wow. You can now use what you earned to do more than feel good and thats not much to some ppl but then we all get different things out of this game right?
TheYellowKid
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Originally Posted by bigwig
Since getting sunspear ranks is required to get more quests and level, most people will have it won't they? So everyones going to have this special reward? So how is it a special reward at all? You just want cheap merchandise.
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just seems to me people want something for nothing
edit: @Thea Rohan: you dont get anything for maxed titles besides bragging rights!
kazjun
I wouldn't mind getting a special emote for a high sunspear rank, or having low ranked npc sunspears salute everytime I walked past. Don't think we'll get any extra rewards, and don't really care. And they had better not tie rank to being able to get 15k sunspear armour, cause that'd be annoying. Well, not that bad I guess, you'd just have to take some time out to depopulate whole regions, but I was going to do that anyway to level up my heroes.
Reiden Argrock
during the preview there were no advantages aside from being able to continue the story and bragging rights. However in the inside there is talk of Effects of raising certain titles, so rewards are on the way.