. i'm not a big fan of mm's either
a safe profession for nightfall?
Moun10Dew
by safe i mean one that will be wanted in groups. i don't want to be a monk bc i suck at healing and proting, or a warr bc i heard they won't be that useful anymore. i'm not a big fan of mm's either
. i'm not a big fan of mm's either
Arkantos
Warriors will still be very useful. The only professions that have a hard time getting into PUGs are mesmers and assassins. I'm sure paragons will get in, and dervish will probably have a role too.
Riesz
Monk. 
Zakarr
Healing/Protection monks are always wanted. The amount of invitations will break your party window once you enter the towns which have important quests or mission.
Necromancer != minion master (pick something else if you don't like being MM)
Mesmers are wanted if you know how to play with them and make sure everyone know that too. Just pick what you prefer because playing style is more important than profession in PvE at least.
Necromancer != minion master (pick something else if you don't like being MM)
Mesmers are wanted if you know how to play with them and make sure everyone know that too. Just pick what you prefer because playing style is more important than profession in PvE at least.
Stormlord Alex
If you don't want to play Warrior or Monk... why not the 3rd in the holy trinity? Elementalist is a safe bet, most parties are happy to accept them, it's an easy class to pick up and play, and... uh... burning stuff is fun. 
Moun10Dew
i said i DON'T want to be a monk..
Charlie Martel
How about a ranger? They're desired for their AoE damage through traps/barrage, interruption skills, and solid survivability. Only problem is that there's quite a lot of rangers out there, but the same could probably be said about elementalists, necromancers, and warriors.
lyra_song
well the ones you dont like are the "safe" classes.
Warrior will always be needed.
Monk will always be needed.
MM is cheap/easy so people tend to have those too.
Try a barrage ranger or something
Warrior will always be needed.
Monk will always be needed.
MM is cheap/easy so people tend to have those too.
Try a barrage ranger or something
Moun10Dew
maybe what i heard about warrriors not being useful was meant for pvp..
Velvet Wing
Dew,
I know that healing is an art on itself.. but it is worthwhile to study it and still be a monk..
But if you insist that you don't like to role a monk, go for Elementalist like STormlord mentioned.. Fire is the most easy form of damage dealing And do you know what kind of sound a corsair makes while burnt with fire? The same sound as everything else 
I know that healing is an art on itself.. but it is worthwhile to study it and still be a monk..
But if you insist that you don't like to role a monk, go for Elementalist like STormlord mentioned.. Fire is the most easy form of damage dealing
And do you know what kind of sound a corsair makes while burnt with fire? The same sound as everything else
Charlie Martel
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maybe what i heard about warrriors not being useful was meant for pvp..
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Fire is the most easy form of damage dealing
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TiNkLeR
Everybody wants elementalist on partys...
Quid Pro Quo
Paragon is a good one.
They heal, they attack, they buff. They are pretty much perfect.
They heal, they attack, they buff. They are pretty much perfect.
Shadowfox1125
Just choose anything else besides mesmers or assassins..
But if you want to be one of those two, go with the mesmer.
But if you want to be one of those two, go with the mesmer.
GloryFox
Well if you have Factions...
Ritualist is an excellent choice as it is the Jack-of-all-trades class. You can Nuke, heal, summon, and reduce overall party damage etc.
Ritualist is an excellent choice as it is the Jack-of-all-trades class. You can Nuke, heal, summon, and reduce overall party damage etc.
leeky baby
assasins are amazing if u can learn how to play them well but yes i agree i have seen many bad assains which give assains bad name
Skuld
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Well if you have Factions...
Ritualist is an excellent choice as it is the Jack-of-all-trades class. You can Nuke, heal, summon, and reduce overall party damage etc. |
Omega X
There IS no safe profession. If you can't play them period then no one will want you because you cause the group to fail every time.
The Great Al
I am hoping that because dervishes do a sort of melee/AoE sort of attack, that that means there will be a lot of large groups in nightfall, meaning nukeres will be wanted, as will SS (most likely)
Fluffyx
Warriors
SS Necro
MM Necro
Monk healing
Elementalist nuke
Will always get groups fairly easy, especially monks. And for warriors not being useful I dont know where you got that from but warriors will never lose their role unless they create a new class that comes along with 200al and does 300dps.
SS Necro
MM Necro
Monk healing
Elementalist nuke
Will always get groups fairly easy, especially monks. And for warriors not being useful I dont know where you got that from but warriors will never lose their role unless they create a new class that comes along with 200al and does 300dps.
sindex
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So hes going to buy factions, play through it as a ritualist, take the rit to elona and play the game through? Madness.
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Velvet Wing
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So hes going to buy factions, play through it as a ritualist, take the rit to elona and play the game through? Madness.
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So Dew, you limited your choices to these --> Elem, Mesmer, Assasin, Rit, Ranger, Paragon, Dervish.. Since we cannot say anything about paragons or dervishes being liked or disliked, and you didn't want to play a character that has a hard time getting into a party (Assasin anyone?) your most save bet would either be a Elementalist if you only own prophecies/nightfall, or a Ritualist if you happen to own Factions..
With this I rest my case.. I leave it up to you (or the jury) to decide..
Konrow
in the beggining of the game everything will be accepted except mesmers and sins but even those will be taken by the newbies or the people that knwo the proffesions true potential. Dervish and Paragon don't seem to be classes like the sin and mes who will be shunned as useless.
Lord Palidore
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So hes going to buy factions, play through it as a ritualist, take the rit to elona and play the game through? Madness.
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Ian Savage
In my mind, you can divide the core classes in to 2 groups. There are the traditional classes, and then those that are a little different. Warrior, Monk, and Elementalist are all traditional classes. Fighter, Healer, Mage. you dont want to play a monk, so if you prefer tanking, then go for the warrior, or ele if you want to nuke. Nukers and tanks are always loved, but tanks seem to be in higher supply right now, so if you manage to create a good nuker, you should be able to get a good number of groups with that. Mesmer, Ranger, and Necromancer are the odd classes out. Not one has a set role in a party, and they all are a bit tougher to play. Good Barrage rangers are always welcome to a party, and if you dont want to play MM, then go for a solid SS necro. widely loved. Mesmers are often looked down upon for PvE, so if you're mainly concerned with getting into groups, avoid those.
Factions classes and Nightfall classes all seem to fit in said second group. Assassins are excellent damage dealers, and they also do conditions quite well, but are often looked down upon in PvE. Ritualists are excellent multi-purpose classes, but more often then not, you'll be asked to heal.
Since Nightfall isn't here for another 5 days, i can only guess how paragon/dervish are going to work, but here's how i see it. Paragon will be the ultimate support class, another fave for groups since, like rits, can do a little bit of everything, including healing. Dervishes are like tanks, but will be more relied upon as damage dealers rather than damage absorbers. i think that paragons will be more popular in groups than dervishes, at least until all the OMG NEW CLASSES ROFL SUPER OMG EXPLOSION hype dies down.
Summary: Warrior, Ele, Ranger, Paragon. You choose.
Factions classes and Nightfall classes all seem to fit in said second group. Assassins are excellent damage dealers, and they also do conditions quite well, but are often looked down upon in PvE. Ritualists are excellent multi-purpose classes, but more often then not, you'll be asked to heal.
Since Nightfall isn't here for another 5 days, i can only guess how paragon/dervish are going to work, but here's how i see it. Paragon will be the ultimate support class, another fave for groups since, like rits, can do a little bit of everything, including healing. Dervishes are like tanks, but will be more relied upon as damage dealers rather than damage absorbers. i think that paragons will be more popular in groups than dervishes, at least until all the OMG NEW CLASSES ROFL SUPER OMG EXPLOSION hype dies down.
Summary: Warrior, Ele, Ranger, Paragon. You choose.
Lady Lozza
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Found it now, Storm in X-men "do you know what happens to a toad when it gets struck by lightning???" heheIf you want something easy to play, I say go ele. Necros, mesmers, monks, warriors, even rangers are classes that while "seeming easy" take real skill to play - a good knowledge of the map. Ok, mm doesn't really, but it is only one necro build.
A bad ele in a good team gives no one headaches.
GloryFox
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Thank you
Vermilion Okeanos
I think we have to see what mission/farming there is going to be in Nightfall.
For example, no one want rit in the Deep's cookie cutter. While Rit lord is always welcomes in urgoz.
For example, no one want rit in the Deep's cookie cutter. While Rit lord is always welcomes in urgoz.
baz777
I don't care what people want in thier groups, there're getting an Ele 
Stoneys Rock
well even though you said you didn't want them warriors will be still useful, as will necromancers (MM, SS, BIP etc), monks and Mesmer's pretty much all the cores.
Assassin's I'm unsure of, Ritualist's I think will be able to get into a party possibly a monk substitute.
Also the new professions may have a frenzy where everyone is playing them like faction's assassins which totally overloaded the missions and outposts :P so if you want to get to the end asap one of the cores should be the way forward in my opinion. Unless you are pretty good with hero skills. In which case we could see more hero parties than human which could end up filling the blanks in a incomplete party, there's 14 hero's you could have a solution to anything really if you need one certain build.
Assassin's I'm unsure of, Ritualist's I think will be able to get into a party possibly a monk substitute.
Also the new professions may have a frenzy where everyone is playing them like faction's assassins which totally overloaded the missions and outposts :P so if you want to get to the end asap one of the cores should be the way forward in my opinion. Unless you are pretty good with hero skills. In which case we could see more hero parties than human which could end up filling the blanks in a incomplete party, there's 14 hero's you could have a solution to anything really if you need one certain build.
Riesz
Since you don't want to play Monk I'd suggest ele or necro.
There are always too many warriors in every district and PUG teams won't typically take more than 2 warriors in a party... in fact it's usually just one 'tank'. Also if you're inexperienced with the game I wouldn't suggest warrior since it can be easy to overextend, aggro too much and misuse skills (frenzy while getting spiked :P).
Eles and necros are always wanted and it's very easy to play the basic builds like fire nuker, SS, or MM. Just don't try to tank as an ele or necro... I see you have a guild... try to group with them and have them explain the basics of whatever class you end up choosing.
There are always too many warriors in every district and PUG teams won't typically take more than 2 warriors in a party... in fact it's usually just one 'tank'. Also if you're inexperienced with the game I wouldn't suggest warrior since it can be easy to overextend, aggro too much and misuse skills (frenzy while getting spiked :P).
Eles and necros are always wanted and it's very easy to play the basic builds like fire nuker, SS, or MM. Just don't try to tank as an ele or necro...
I see you have a guild... try to group with them and have them explain the basics of whatever class you end up choosing.
gr3g
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I believe it has been confirmed though in one of Gaile's in-game chats +1/-1 week around the time of the BWE that owners of Factions can create Elonian-born assassins and ritualist.
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Clord
It was referred to chat log what many miss understanded.
I play with Assassin in Tyria and Cantha and easily get to PUG party (European servers you get easily to party even with Assassin). That it happen to eg American server that Assassin not get group it does not mean that it happen every server.
I play with Assassin in Tyria and Cantha and easily get to PUG party (European servers you get easily to party even with Assassin). That it happen to eg American server that Assassin not get group it does not mean that it happen every server.
Kuchiki Akio
I don't see a reason trying to find a class for someone who plays with preconceived views on characters, and wants to play one thats useful according to "other people's opinion".
Toxage
Just go with whatever profession you like the best. If people won't take you use the heroes.
Ulivious The Reaper
To be honest, any profession that isn't assassin or mesmer will be pretty much wanted, however i'm leaning towards monks being a shortage like always.. and devrishes will be used everywhere, so that won't be to good, so as far as safe i'd go with elementalist or warrior, (personally i'll play with my warrior first, i don't care what everyone thinks ^^)
Jeff Highwind
I support the MM build after seeing the new minions/elite skill, and after seeing the amount of bodies you can make just in Istan. SS would also be good since you got Paragorns next to mages yelling all the time.
LiamR
Just make a monk.. I did, i mean, is it hard to get into a group? I get 10 invites before my screen loads up, heh. If not, take heroes, whee.
Lord Palidore
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Link to this chat log where this was confirmed? Yes, I tried searching for myself.
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Yes, I was actually off a few weeks; the log that this was confirmed was on September 14.
Anyways, here it is, for the info about Elonian assassins and ritualist, just look a little below the half way point of the log.
Franco
who ever said healing monks always get in parties i disagree =P
I play boon prot, much better then healing)
I play boon prot, much better then healing
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